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One year ago, I made an incredible discovery.
Imagine one unknown ciphered text, left by Francis Bacon, that reveals all the truth about 3 births :

 - the birth of Henry Wriothesley,
 - the birth of Henry de Vere,
 - and his own birth.

In regard of his birth, Bacon left three essential clues in this ciphered text, namely references to 3 works of Albrecht Dürer,

of which MELENCOLIA I (1514) and  ... THE MADONNA OF THE CARNATION (1516).

 

File:Albrecht Dürer - The Madonna of the Carnation - WGA7000.jpg -  Wikimedia Commons

https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Albrecht_Dürer_-_The_Madonna_of_the_Carnation_-_WGA7000.jpg

 

When I saw the child Jesus with an apple in his hand, I immediatly made the connection with the  portrait of the child Bacon with an apple in his hand.

https://sirbacon.org/graphics/childbacon.htm

That made me wonder if there was a "Virgin Queen of the Carnation".

I did not find the "Virgin Queen of the Carnation" but I find the " Virgin Queen of the Rose", and it went beyond all my expectations !

https://www.theguardian.com/artanddesign/2019/nov/27/long-lost-overpainted-portrait-reveals-young-queen-elizabeth-i

 

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The portrait of the young Francis Bacon was commissioned by his true mother, the Queen Elizabeth Tudor !

FRANCIS BACON WAS A TUDOR PRINCE !

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Beautiful!

Synchronicity earlier today I was looking at Albrecht Dürer's "Virgin with Child" paintings as there are several. Each one is different. But the Virgin with Child was a theme he repeated.

 

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3 minutes ago, Light-of-Truth said:

Beautiful!

Synchronicity earlier today I was looking at Albrecht Dürer's "Virgin with Child" paintings as there are several. Each one is different. But the Virgin with Child was a theme he repeated.

 

Synchronicity, indeed ! 😄 This is Dürer's Night !  For the anecdote, the article of The Guardian was published the 27th of November 2019 . I was 42 years old and it was my Birthday 🙂 ( And I remind you that 42 is the answer to life, the universe and everything). Today corresponds to the 402 lines of the Sonnets 😉 

And I choose to share my discovery today, because we are the 9/03 or 9/3 with 93 = IC =I see = Eye See = Iesus Christ and 39 = F. BACON 

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It makes perfect sense that I came across Dürer and spent some time looking at his paintings while you were thinking of posting about him.

I always take a Synchronicity to mean I am doing what I am supposed to be doing at exactly the right time. So your intent and timing was right on the mark as well. 😉

 

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7 minutes ago, Light-of-Truth said:

I was also thinking about Henry Wriothesley as well, and you mentioned him in your post too.

It makes sense and it is connected with your interest for Albrecht Dürer's "Virgin with Child" painting 😉 

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On 3/10/2022 at 5:25 AM, Allisnum2er said:

One year ago, I made an incredible discovery.
Imagine one unknown ciphered text, left by Francis Bacon, that reveals all the truth about 3 births :

 - the birth of Henry Wriothesley,
 - the birth of Henry de Vere,
 - and his own birth.

In regard of his birth, Bacon left three essential clues in this ciphered text, namely references to 3 works of Albrecht Dürer,

of which MELENCOLIA I (1514) and  ... THE MADONNA OF THE CARNATION (1516).

 

File:Albrecht Dürer - The Madonna of the Carnation - WGA7000.jpg -  Wikimedia Commons

https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Albrecht_Dürer_-_The_Madonna_of_the_Carnation_-_WGA7000.jpg

 

When I saw the child Jesus with an apple in his hand, I immediatly made the connection with the  portrait of the child Bacon with an apple in his hand.

https://sirbacon.org/graphics/childbacon.htm

That made me wonder if there was a "Virgin Queen of the Carnation".

I did not find the "Virgin Queen of the Carnation" but I find the " Virgin Queen of the Rose", and it went beyond all my expectations !

https://www.theguardian.com/artanddesign/2019/nov/27/long-lost-overpainted-portrait-reveals-young-queen-elizabeth-i

 

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The portrait of the young Francis Bacon was commissioned by his true mother, the Queen Elizabeth Tudor !

FRANCIS BACON WAS A TUDOR PRINCE !

"The portrait of the young Francis Bacon was commissioned by his true mother, the Queen Elizabeth Tudor !"

 

Fascinating. I'd always assumed that the portrait of Francis as a baby must have been commissioned by Lord and Lady Bacon. Your reference to the 1562 portrait of Elizabeth wearing a very similar garment to the one worn by Francis in his 1562 portrait makes me think you could be right. If as you suggest the Queen did commission the portrait of Francis she may have also stipulated the inclusion of the dual pendants, the apple, the position of the hands and perhaps had a garment similar to her own made for her secret love child. If there are any Elizabethan costume experts out there, it would be helpful to know more about the style of outer garment that both sitters are wearing. It appears to consist of an inner layer of wool coming through slits made in the outer layer of fabric, possibly silk.

 

 

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11 hours ago, Eric Roberts said:

Your reference to the 1562 portrait of Elizabeth wearing a very similar garment to the one worn by Francis in his 1562 portrait makes me think you could be right. If as you suggest the Queen did commission the portrait of Francis she may have also stipulated the inclusion of the dual pendants, the apple, the position of the hands and perhaps had a garment similar to her own made for her secret love child. If there are any Elizabethan costume experts out there, it would be helpful to know more about the style of outer garment that both sitters are wearing. It appears to consist of an inner layer of wool coming through slits made in the outer layer of fabric, possibly silk.

Hi Eric,

I wish you a very warm welcome to the B'hive community.

I totally agree with you. The opinion of any Elizabethan costume experts would be certainly welcome and helpful.

The fact is that in the ciphered text that led me to "The Madonna of the Carnation" there was also a reference to the Virgin Mary's Tunic, the Tunic worn by Virgin Mary when she gave birth to Jesus. Thus, when I discovered the painting of the Queen Elizabeth wearing the same garment as Francis Bacon, it was for me a confirmation that I was on the right path. I immediatly thought : "Francis Bacon wears the Virgin Queen's Tunic !"

I think that the "Apple" hidden in the collars of Queen Elizabeth, echoing the "Apple" that Francis Bacon holds in his hand, creates another connection  between the two Portraits.

However, this style of garment may have been common in the upper Class at that time.

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On 3/10/2022 at 5:25 AM, Allisnum2er said:

One year ago, I made an incredible discovery.
Imagine one unknown ciphered text, left by Francis Bacon, that reveals all the truth about 3 births :

 - the birth of Henry Wriothesley,
 - the birth of Henry de Vere,
 - and his own birth.

In regard of his birth, Bacon left three essential clues in this ciphered text, namely references to 3 works of Albrecht Dürer,

of which MELENCOLIA I (1514) and  ... THE MADONNA OF THE CARNATION (1516).

 

File:Albrecht Dürer - The Madonna of the Carnation - WGA7000.jpg -  Wikimedia Commons

https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Albrecht_Dürer_-_The_Madonna_of_the_Carnation_-_WGA7000.jpg

 

When I saw the child Jesus with an apple in his hand, I immediatly made the connection with the  portrait of the child Bacon with an apple in his hand.

https://sirbacon.org/graphics/childbacon.htm

That made me wonder if there was a "Virgin Queen of the Carnation".

I did not find the "Virgin Queen of the Carnation" but I find the " Virgin Queen of the Rose", and it went beyond all my expectations !

https://www.theguardian.com/artanddesign/2019/nov/27/long-lost-overpainted-portrait-reveals-young-queen-elizabeth-i

 

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The portrait of the young Francis Bacon was commissioned by his true mother, the Queen Elizabeth Tudor !

FRANCIS BACON WAS A TUDOR PRINCE !

I think I may have stumbled upon the "Virgin Queen of the Carnation" picture you were looking for. As I was trying to find out more about the Elizabethan fashion of slashed sleeves (https://blog.bridgemanimages.com/blog/cutting-edge-fashion-the-slashed-sleeve-in-early-modern-europe) I came across the 1563 portrait of Elizabeth known as The Hampden Portrait. She is holding a carnation in her right hand and another blossom is pinned to her left shoulder. There are more carnations in the garden behind her. A description of the painting states that it is:

attributed to the Dutch artist Steven van der Meulen; the only image of the 'Virgin Queen' that alludes to her becoming a wife and mother; holding a carnation alludes to Elizabeth being the Handmaid of God and the Queen of Heaven (England) and is a symbol of love; armillary sphere hanging from waist symbolises harmony; foliage and flowers indicate the fertility of the queen.

 

The gown she is wearing also has slashed sleeves, like the 1562 portrait and the picture of Francis as an infant.

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7 minutes ago, Eric Roberts said:

I think I may have stumbled upon the "Virgin Queen of the Carnation" picture you were looking for. As I was trying to find out more about the Elizabethan fashion of slashed sleeves (https://blog.bridgemanimages.com/blog/cutting-edge-fashion-the-slashed-sleeve-in-early-modern-europe) I came across the 1563 portrait of Elizabeth known as The Hampden Portrait. She is holding a carnation in her right hand and another blossom is pinned to her left shoulder. There are more carnations in the garden behind her. A description of the painting states that it is:

attributed to the Dutch artist Steven van der Meulen; the only image of the 'Virgin Queen' that alludes to her becoming a wife and mother; holding a carnation alludes to Elizabeth being the Handmaid of God and the Queen of Heaven (England) and is a symbol of love; armillary sphere hanging from waist symbolises harmony; foliage and flowers indicate the fertility of the queen.

 

The gown she is wearing also has slashed sleeves, like the 1562 portrait and the picture of Francis as an infant.

Hampden Portrait 1563.jpeg

AWESOME !!! 😃 What a great finding ! Thank you so much Eric . 🙏 

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10 hours ago, Light-of-Truth said:

I tried to do some adjustments in Photoshop to bring out the lines:

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Thank you for your help Rob ! Now I clearly see a wreath , probably a laurel wreath, and I think that it is indeed a snake in the center of the wreath, isn't it ? In fact, I am still not sure ! 😅

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Yesterday night, as I was studying the Book" Iconologia" (1709) and its connection with Francis Bacon's Essaies (1609) for another topic ( I am Alpha and Omega), my research led me to the number 276 , and this number  led me to the 276th page of the First Folio, that is the page 258 of "Twelfe Night,or,What you will".

https://internetshakespeare.uvic.ca/Library/facsimile/book/SLNSW_F1/276/index.html%3fzoom=1275.html

What a surprise, discovering the words "flower", " Apple" and "Madona" on the same page !

I think, that Francis Bacon makes a direct reference to "The Madonna of the Carnation".

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Salve_Regina

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https://internetshakespeare.uvic.ca/Library/facsimile/book/SLNSW_F1/20/index.html%3fzoom=1275.html

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