Light-of-Truth Posted March 10, 2022 Share Posted March 10, 2022 Three of us saw the same 3 guys! Here is a 3 and 3, Kate! LOL 1 T A A A A A A A A A A A T 157 www.Light-of-Truth.com 287 <-- 1 8 8 1 1 O 1 1 8 8 1 --> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kate Posted March 10, 2022 Share Posted March 10, 2022 11 minutes ago, Light-of-Truth said: I recognized the others as well. Who are they? Jonson, Ralegh? First name that popped into my mind was Oliver Cromwell (?!) 2 The Secret Work of an Age ebook Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Light-of-Truth Posted March 10, 2022 Share Posted March 10, 2022 1641 - Fr. Baconis 1644 - Fr. Baconi 1 T A A A A A A A A A A A T 157 www.Light-of-Truth.com 287 <-- 1 8 8 1 1 O 1 1 8 8 1 --> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allisnum2er Posted March 10, 2022 Share Posted March 10, 2022 5 minutes ago, Light-of-Truth said: 1641 - Fr. Baconis 1644 - Fr. Baconi 1641 - LUG BATAVORUM 1644 - LUGD BATAVORUM LUGD BATAVORUM reverse cipher is 177 : WILLIAM SHAKESPEARE LUGD BATAVORUM simple cipher (26 letters) is 157 LUGD BATAVORUM Kaye cipher (26 letters) is 287 😃 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Light-of-Truth Posted March 10, 2022 Share Posted March 10, 2022 9 minutes ago, Allisnum2er said: 1641 - LUG BATAVORUM 1644 - LUGD BATAVORUM LUGD BATAVORUM reverse cipher is 177 : WILLIAM SHAKESPEARE LUGD BATAVORUM simple cipher (26 letters) is 157 LUGD BATAVORUM Kaye cipher (26 letters) is 287 😃 By 1644 the 26 letter alphabet was better established. But they would have known 177 was still important as well. Great catch!! 1 T A A A A A A A A A A A T 157 www.Light-of-Truth.com 287 <-- 1 8 8 1 1 O 1 1 8 8 1 --> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Light-of-Truth Posted March 10, 2022 Share Posted March 10, 2022 I thought LUGD BATAVORUM seemed familiar to me. I have this tiny book from 1648 in very good shape. I bought it almost 20 years ago from Abe books, don't remember what it costs. But it wasn't a lot. Being in Latin I never really looked inside much. Of course checking page 157, 33, etc. But it doesn't appear to have been used much, pages crisp, so on. I just did a first time flip through to see if any notes were in it as I always look for notes. Page 53: I have no idea who owned this book or when these notes were added, and will say after owning this book for so many years and see this right now has my heart pumping. Not only are we discovering ciphers in the years after Bacon "passed", I have a book in possession with a cipher note I had no idea was there! I LOVE this work! 3 T A A A A A A A A A A A T 157 www.Light-of-Truth.com 287 <-- 1 8 8 1 1 O 1 1 8 8 1 --> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kate Posted March 10, 2022 Share Posted March 10, 2022 Could the one guy be Brouncker? 2 The Secret Work of an Age ebook Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kate Posted March 10, 2022 Share Posted March 10, 2022 I think it is Brouncker 1 The Secret Work of an Age ebook Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Light-of-Truth Posted March 10, 2022 Share Posted March 10, 2022 (edited) OK, Kate, synchronicity is crackling lately. I did a search on SirBacon.org for Oliver Cromwell and this page came up and is still on another open window in my browser: https://sirbacon.org/royalsociety.htm Edited March 10, 2022 by Light-of-Truth 1 T A A A A A A A A A A A T 157 www.Light-of-Truth.com 287 <-- 1 8 8 1 1 O 1 1 8 8 1 --> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Light-of-Truth Posted March 10, 2022 Share Posted March 10, 2022 William Brouncker, 2nd Viscount Brouncker, wiki: William obtained a DM at the University of Oxford in 1647. Until 1660 he played no part in public life: being a staunch Royalist, he felt it best to live quietly and devote himself to his mathematical studies. He was one of the founders and the first President of the Royal Society. He may have been too young for the 1641 engraving. But depending on his connections at the time, maybe. Imagine if an elderly Bacon had him as a student! T A A A A A A A A A A A T 157 www.Light-of-Truth.com 287 <-- 1 8 8 1 1 O 1 1 8 8 1 --> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Light-of-Truth Posted March 10, 2022 Share Posted March 10, 2022 Sorry to sidetrack, but that 1648 book I have has one other note, the name "Tho. Molyneux." I found a signature from 1684 and the signature matches. Guess I have an autograph from the 1600's from Thomas Molyneux. Maybe he was the first owner of this book. (The cipher notes are pencil assuming much later). http://bayle-correspondance.univ-st-etienne.fr/?Lettre-305-Thomas-Molyneux-a&id_document=1122&lang=fr#documents_portfolio 2 T A A A A A A A A A A A T 157 www.Light-of-Truth.com 287 <-- 1 8 8 1 1 O 1 1 8 8 1 --> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allisnum2er Posted March 10, 2022 Share Posted March 10, 2022 28 minutes ago, Light-of-Truth said: I thought LUGD BATAVORUM seemed familiar to me. I have this tiny book from 1648 in very good shape. I bought it almost 20 years ago from Abe books, don't remember what it costs. But it wasn't a lot. Being in Latin I never really looked inside much. Of course checking page 157, 33, etc. But it doesn't appear to have been used much, pages crisp, so on. I just did a first time flip through to see if any notes were in it as I always look for notes. Page 53: I have no idea who owned this book or when these notes were added, and will say after owning this book for so many years and see this right now has my heart pumping. Not only are we discovering ciphers in the years after Bacon "passed", I have a book in possession with a cipher note I had no idea was there! I LOVE this work! Rob, you are preaching to the choir ! 🙂 I am really happy for you ! These odd moments of joy are invaluable ! 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Light-of-Truth Posted March 10, 2022 Share Posted March 10, 2022 1 minute ago, Allisnum2er said: Rob, you are preaching to the choir ! 🙂 I am really happy for you ! These odd moments of joy are invaluable ! Treasures to find by previous treasure hunters. Whoever wrote these notes had no idea who might ever see them. Like this forum, we may touch people 100 years from now who are seeking and we left our notes... 😉 2 T A A A A A A A A A A A T 157 www.Light-of-Truth.com 287 <-- 1 8 8 1 1 O 1 1 8 8 1 --> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Light-of-Truth Posted March 10, 2022 Share Posted March 10, 2022 Thomas Molyneux appears to have been a member of the Royal Society, or at least a contributor in 1699 with articles appearing the Society archives. That explains him owning Bacon's 1648 book. 🙂 2 T A A A A A A A A A A A T 157 www.Light-of-Truth.com 287 <-- 1 8 8 1 1 O 1 1 8 8 1 --> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A Phoenix Posted March 11, 2022 Author Share Posted March 11, 2022 THE CURIOUS SYMBOLIC TITLE PAGE OF THE 1642 LATIN EDITION OF HENRY VII. 3 https://aphoenix1.academia.edu/ https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCrY7wzlXnZiT1Urwx7jP6fQ/videos Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allisnum2er Posted March 11, 2022 Share Posted March 11, 2022 1 hour ago, A Phoenix said: THE CURIOUS SYMBOLIC TITLE PAGE OF THE 1642 LATIN EDITION OF HENRY VII. Just in case you missed my preceeding post ! 🙂 Each times, it is about Nemesis (The Great Fortune) And there is also a reverse image of this TITLE PAGE in the 1647 LATIN EDITION OF HENRY VII. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allisnum2er Posted March 11, 2022 Share Posted March 11, 2022 On 3/10/2022 at 6:24 PM, A Phoenix said: THE TITLE PAGES OF THE 1641 AND 1644 LATIN EDITIONS OF BACON'S ESSAYS. IT WILL BE NOTICED THAT IN THE 1641 EDITION THE FIGURE OF BACON APPEARS ON THE RIGHT SIDE OF THE PLATE AND IN THE 1644 EDITION THE PLATE IS PRINTED IN THE REVERSE WITH THE FIGURE OF BACON APPEARING ON THE LEFT SIDE. FRENCH TOKEN - JOSEPH ALPHONSE DE VALBELLE, EVÊQUE DE SAINT OMER NOTICE THE YEAR 1723 NOTICE THE YEAR 1730 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A Phoenix Posted March 11, 2022 Author Share Posted March 11, 2022 Hi Yann, thank you for sharing this-the video was stirring and emotional. 3 https://aphoenix1.academia.edu/ https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCrY7wzlXnZiT1Urwx7jP6fQ/videos Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Light-of-Truth Posted March 11, 2022 Share Posted March 11, 2022 Was this (33) anyone who we know? 😉 1 T A A A A A A A A A A A T 157 www.Light-of-Truth.com 287 <-- 1 8 8 1 1 O 1 1 8 8 1 --> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Light-of-Truth Posted March 11, 2022 Share Posted March 11, 2022 Imagine having the opportunity to just peruse that library. I searched microfiche at USF years ago and thought that was amazing and very cool. But to touch and flip through pages of antiquities, I cannot even dream of that. A wealth of discoveries, never before even considered. Just imagine! So much behind the veil! Purposely left for us, yet nobody has been passionate enough to seek! The names of we who have looked in the past couple hundred years is not a long list. The immense volume of clues are barely scratched. Hopefully they do not disappear before found. Even yesterday smelling the pungent odor of a 1653 book, possibly with pollen and mold from hundreds of years ago made me excited. Hope we do not leave COVID for the next centuries... 2 T A A A A A A A A A A A T 157 www.Light-of-Truth.com 287 <-- 1 8 8 1 1 O 1 1 8 8 1 --> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Light-of-Truth Posted March 12, 2022 Share Posted March 12, 2022 Quote Each times, it is about Nemesis (The Great Fortune) Nemesis, and Albrecht again. 🙂 Wiki https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nemesis: Etymology The name Nemesis is related to the Greek word νέμειν némein, meaning "to give what is due",[3] from Proto-Indo-European nem- "distribute".[4] Not the first time today that word popped up. 😉 https://www.metmuseum.org/art/collection/search/359998 So beautiful. We are giving Bacon his due. 2 T A A A A A A A A A A A T 157 www.Light-of-Truth.com 287 <-- 1 8 8 1 1 O 1 1 8 8 1 --> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Light-of-Truth Posted March 12, 2022 Share Posted March 12, 2022 (edited) Mona Lisa has nothing on "Nemesis". Look at her face, the expression. The hair. Paying back what is due. She is confident, pleased, and 100% secure in her actions. Amazing image! This is Women's History Month in America (New Atlantis). https://www.womenshistory.org/womens-history/womens-history-month I love her. So does Bacon. 🙂 https://www.metmuseum.org/art/collection/search/359998 Edited March 12, 2022 by Light-of-Truth 2 T A A A A A A A A A A A T 157 www.Light-of-Truth.com 287 <-- 1 8 8 1 1 O 1 1 8 8 1 --> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kate Posted March 12, 2022 Share Posted March 12, 2022 (edited) 15 hours ago, Allisnum2er said: Wonderful video. Just imagine what other books are up there on those shelves! (Edited to say, I’ve just scrolled down and seen Rob also said a similar thing) Edited March 12, 2022 by Kate Cassidy 3 The Secret Work of an Age ebook Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kate Posted March 12, 2022 Share Posted March 12, 2022 18 hours ago, A Phoenix said: THE CURIOUS SYMBOLIC TITLE PAGE OF THE 1642 LATIN EDITION OF HENRY VII. So here it is Lvg Batavor not Lugd Batavorum. What exactly do all these various ways of saying this mean on these books? I went looking and found this (see link) and I’ve never seen so many ways of saying the same thing. It’s curious https://data.cerl.org/thesaurus/cnl00031387 Does it just mean all the books were printed in Leiden? Is Leiden in anyway connected to Lede of Lede and the Swan? In the link you can see how many variations there are on the spelling of that word too 🤔 Does anyone know? 3 The Secret Work of an Age ebook Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allisnum2er Posted March 12, 2022 Share Posted March 12, 2022 1 hour ago, Kate Cassidy said: So here it is Lvg Batavor not Lugd Batavorum. What exactly do all these various ways of saying this mean on these books? I went looking and found this (see link) and I’ve never seen so many ways of saying the same thing. It’s curious https://data.cerl.org/thesaurus/cnl00031387 Does it just mean all the books were printed in Leiden? Is Leiden in anyway connected to Lede of Lede and the Swan? In the link you can see how many variations there are on the spelling of that word too 🤔 Does anyone know? Hi Kate ! Here is the information given by wikipedia : "Leiden was formed on an artificial hill (today called the Burcht van Leiden) at the confluence of the rivers Oude and Nieuwe Rijn (Old and New Rhine). In the oldest reference to this, from circa 860, the settlement was called Leithon. The name is said to be from Germanic leitha- "canal" in dative pluralis, thus meaning "at the canals". "Canal" is actually not the completely proper word. A leitha (later "lede") was a human-modified natural river, partly natural, partly artificial." By the way, I discovered the interesting work of Lucas van Leyden , a contemporary of ... Albrecht Dürer ! 🙂 The Painter Lucas van Leyden by Albrecht Dürer (1521) 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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