Allisnum2er Posted March 9, 2022 Share Posted March 9, 2022 6 hours ago, Light-of-Truth said: This is Bacon, right? 😉 Great finding Rob ! And as above ,so below ... This is Shake-Speare, Right ? 😃 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allisnum2er Posted March 9, 2022 Share Posted March 9, 2022 HERE IS ANOTHER IDEA. A REFERENCE TO "WILLOBIE HIS AVISA" The fable of Acteon is explained by Francis Bacon in his Book "The Wisdom of the Ancients"(1609). Chapter X Acteon and Pentheus, or a Curious Man Explained of Curiosity, or Prying into the Secrets of Princes and Divine Mysteries PRINCE BACON 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allisnum2er Posted March 9, 2022 Share Posted March 9, 2022 (edited) And what if this portrait was the one of of our 13-year-old Genius when he was at Trinity College in 1573 ? Edited March 9, 2022 by Allisnum2er 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A Phoenix Posted March 9, 2022 Author Share Posted March 9, 2022 Hi Yann, great work! The link between The History of Life and Death with the portrait of FB when he was a young adult and Willobie His Avisa with the Acteon myth is very curious and interesting. I discuss the Acteon myth in both FB's acknowledged writings and several of his Shakespeare plays in my article on 'THE PREGNANCY PORTRAIT OF QUEEN ELIZABETH AND THE SECRET ROYAL BIRTH OF FRANCIS BACON, CONCEALED AUTHOR OF THE SHAKESPEARE WORKS', pp. 19-28 http://sirbacon.org/a-phoenix.html 2 https://aphoenix1.academia.edu/ https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCrY7wzlXnZiT1Urwx7jP6fQ/videos Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A Phoenix Posted March 9, 2022 Author Share Posted March 9, 2022 Hi Yann, Rob and Kate (and everyone else of course) here is the title page and frontispiece of the extremely rare 1654 German edition of The Wisdom of the Ancients. Hope you find it of some interest. 1 https://aphoenix1.academia.edu/ https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCrY7wzlXnZiT1Urwx7jP6fQ/videos Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kate Posted March 9, 2022 Share Posted March 9, 2022 48 minutes ago, A Phoenix said: Hi Yann, Rob and Kate (and everyone else of course) here is the title page and frontispiece of the extremely rare 1654 German edition of The Wisdom of the Ancients. Hope you find it of some interest. This is so great, that all these wonderful images can be shared and debated/analysed. Thank you AP. I’m sure someone will ‘happen across’ this forum when the time is right and provide a missing key we hadn’t considered. I live in hope! There are your rays again Rob and the whole notion of reflection and as above, so below. All your work (all of you) and years spent in this field, in pursuit of Truth, is so impressive and welcomed. 👏👏👏 2 1 "For nothing is born without unity or without the point." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allisnum2er Posted March 9, 2022 Share Posted March 9, 2022 1 hour ago, A Phoenix said: Hi Yann, Rob and Kate (and everyone else of course) here is the title page and frontispiece of the extremely rare 1654 German edition of The Wisdom of the Ancients. Hope you find it of some interest. It will be more difficult regarding the text in German if the concealed message is in German. However, I immediatly noticed the Hebrew word "Sod" meaning "Secret" right in the center, and you have the Roman numbers I. II. and III Notice that you do not have a full stop after the III I. + II. = III. and III. III = 33 = BACON And I. II. III = 123 = FRANCIS TUDOR ( "De furtivis" cipher) 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Light-of-Truth Posted March 9, 2022 Share Posted March 9, 2022 (edited) This has always been one of my favorite Bacon images! 🙂 I would have enjoyed being one of the people with him while he shares his wisdom. View online here: http://digital.onb.ac.at/OnbViewer/viewer.faces?doc=ABO_%2BZ206897807 Edited March 9, 2022 by Light-of-Truth 1 T A A A A A A A A A A A T 157 www.Light-of-Truth.com 287 <-- 1 8 8 1 1 O 1 1 8 8 1 --> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Light-of-Truth Posted March 9, 2022 Share Posted March 9, 2022 Who are with Bacon? Ben Jonson in the left of the image? Doesn't Bacon look young in this engraving? He definitely has the Roses on his shoes. His feet are a right angle which is a Freemason hint. 1 T A A A A A A A A A A A T 157 www.Light-of-Truth.com 287 <-- 1 8 8 1 1 O 1 1 8 8 1 --> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allisnum2er Posted March 9, 2022 Share Posted March 9, 2022 Could it be a reference to Dürer ? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Light-of-Truth Posted March 9, 2022 Share Posted March 9, 2022 I was looking for an engraving or portrait that resembled the youth in the 1645 Title page of History of Life and Death. I thought the portrait of a young Henry Wriothesley by Hilliard looked similar. I'm not sure why Wriothesley would be on Bacon's title page engraving, though. T A A A A A A A A A A A T 157 www.Light-of-Truth.com 287 <-- 1 8 8 1 1 O 1 1 8 8 1 --> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Light-of-Truth Posted March 9, 2022 Share Posted March 9, 2022 For what its worth, I see that page 157 of the 1654 German "Wisdom of the Ancients" is the last full page of this section (in English), "Icarus and Scylla and Charybdis, or the Middle Way. Explained of Mediocrity in Natural and Moral Philosophy". Bacon's motto is "Mediocria Firma" which means the middle way, the way of harmony peace and brotherhood. Page 287 is the first page of the Index, or the "Register" in German. The last word on Page 286 is "Regis" which in Latin means "King." 2 1 T A A A A A A A A A A A T 157 www.Light-of-Truth.com 287 <-- 1 8 8 1 1 O 1 1 8 8 1 --> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kate Posted March 10, 2022 Share Posted March 10, 2022 11 hours ago, Light-of-Truth said: Who are with Bacon? Ben Jonson in the left of the image? Doesn't Bacon look young in this engraving? He definitely has the Roses on his shoes. His feet are a right angle which is a Freemason hint. Perhaps put a protractor over it and see what the angle of his stick is, if it’s close to 23.5 it’s a hint at Precession or it may be another important angle K 2 "For nothing is born without unity or without the point." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kate Posted March 10, 2022 Share Posted March 10, 2022 (edited) Rob, I’m still playing around with the dedication on the Sonnets. Perhaps you could move this to the right location in the forum - or we could even have a thread dedicated to Sacred Geometry? Rather than overlaying these, the only proper way to do it is with a compass and straight edge on a piece of paper of the exact dimensions of the pages but this sparks ideas. If one goes to Google and types in ‘star tetrahedron’ it gives lots of images. K ps. Someone just posted this image of the flower of life star tetrahedron on Twitter (not on the dedication though) that’s what gave me the idea to overlay it. Edited March 10, 2022 by Kate Cassidy 3 "For nothing is born without unity or without the point." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Light-of-Truth Posted March 10, 2022 Share Posted March 10, 2022 (edited) Quote Rather than overlaying these, the only proper way to do it is with a compass and straight edge on a piece of paper of the exact dimensions of the pages but this sparks ideas. Let me share a couple thoughts... First of all, highly recommend you learn Photoshop. It can be downloaded with an inexpensive subscription from Adobe. One can perform exact and precise calculations and geometrical designs, plus with its layers you can do anything you wish. The "Undo" but can be very helpful to clear mistakes, etc. Second thought is that there is an esoteric "magic" that can happen when doing work by hand. A keyboard and mouse create a slight barrier between the mind and the works one does. Magic can still happen, but the mind-hand-medium connection is powerful. My first few years doing Bacon cipher work was all by hand. Even though I had been in the computer world since the late 70's programming, installing, repairing, and all working with aspects of computers, during the 1998-2003 period I did not own one myself. It was kind of a spiritual or metaphysical phase where my personal life was very simple. I filled countless pads of graph paper and ledger sheets with cipher experiments, and wrote all my notes with pen/pencil and paper. All my drawings were by hand using a ruler and compass. I didn't even use a calculator and did all my math in my head or on paper. It was fruitful and rewarding. And the "Magic", oh my! I'd study for a week exploring, seeking, making small notes, and then every Thursday would start to write. My head would be full of what I had found or learned, but once I started writing by hand, it began to come together. After an hour or so, I almost became an observer reading what I writing as if it was coming from another plane of reality. And it truly was. Even though my head was full to start, I had no idea what I knew until I started the process of writing. So many times I had the experience of Dee or Bacon actually guiding my thoughts as they flowed from my mind. That still happens with keyboard and mouse, but not the same. It's hard to explain. You've written a book, Kate, so you know what I am talking about when Knowledge flows from a level of consciousness not easily accessed in our normal day-to-day lifestyle. Doing it by hand slows the output a little, and allows it to manifest and develop more I believe. Even so, tools like Photoshop, Illustrator, AutoCAD, etc., provide a method of communication for sharing discoveries and ideas that should be in every creative person's toolbox. Edited March 10, 2022 by Light-of-Truth 1 T A A A A A A A A A A A T 157 www.Light-of-Truth.com 287 <-- 1 8 8 1 1 O 1 1 8 8 1 --> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Light-of-Truth Posted March 10, 2022 Share Posted March 10, 2022 Quote or we could even have a thread dedicated to Sacred Geometry? We just created a Forum under Baconian Discussions for Sacred Geometry. 🙂 T A A A A A A A A A A A T 157 www.Light-of-Truth.com 287 <-- 1 8 8 1 1 O 1 1 8 8 1 --> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A Phoenix Posted March 10, 2022 Author Share Posted March 10, 2022 THE TITLE PAGES OF THE 1641 AND 1644 LATIN EDITIONS OF BACON'S ESSAYS. IT WILL BE NOTICED THAT IN THE 1641 EDITION THE FIGURE OF BACON APPEARS ON THE RIGHT SIDE OF THE PLATE AND IN THE 1644 EDITION THE PLATE IS PRINTED IN THE REVERSE WITH THE FIGURE OF BACON APPEARING ON THE LEFT SIDE. 3 https://aphoenix1.academia.edu/ https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCrY7wzlXnZiT1Urwx7jP6fQ/videos Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allisnum2er Posted March 10, 2022 Share Posted March 10, 2022 (edited) 21 hours ago, Light-of-Truth said: For what its worth, I see that page 157 of the 1654 German "Wisdom of the Ancients" is the last full page of this section (in English), "Icarus and Scylla and Charybdis, or the Middle Way. Explained of Mediocrity in Natural and Moral Philosophy". Bacon's motto is "Mediocria Firma" which means the middle way, the way of harmony peace and brotherhood. Page 287 is the first page of the Index, or the "Register" in German. The last word on Page 286 is "Regis" which in Latin means "King." Rob, thank you so much ! Here is what I found this morning thanks to your post and your reference to pages 157 and 287. Once again 287 is the KEY ! 😉 Achelous and Acteon For more information about the number 222 : https://sirbacon.org/all-is-num2er/ The video "Lord Bacon's Birth-day" (222) Notice that the Chapter XXX about METIS and the birth of Pallas Athena /Minerva, the Speare Shaker, is between the pages 176 and 178 🙂 177 is the simple cipher of both WILLIAM SHAKE-SPEARE and FRANCIS BACON+MINERVA Edited March 10, 2022 by Allisnum2er About Chapter XXX - METIS 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Light-of-Truth Posted March 10, 2022 Share Posted March 10, 2022 2 hours ago, A Phoenix said: THE TITLE PAGES OF THE 1641 AND 1644 LATIN EDITIONS OF BACON'S ESSAYS. IT WILL BE NOTICED THAT IN THE 1641 EDITION THE FIGURE OF BACON APPEARS ON THE RIGHT SIDE OF THE PLATE AND IN THE 1644 EDITION THE PLATE IS PRINTED IN THE REVERSE WITH THE FIGURE OF BACON APPEARING ON THE LEFT SIDE. That is impressive to me as they had to cut a new piece of wood! Can't just flip and reverse a wood cut engraving. 🙂 I take it as significant. I can see minor differences as well. It was a new cut, look at Bacon's finger and where it is. 2 T A A A A A A A A A A A T 157 www.Light-of-Truth.com 287 <-- 1 8 8 1 1 O 1 1 8 8 1 --> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allisnum2er Posted March 10, 2022 Share Posted March 10, 2022 2 hours ago, A Phoenix said: THE TITLE PAGES OF THE 1641 AND 1644 LATIN EDITIONS OF BACON'S ESSAYS. IT WILL BE NOTICED THAT IN THE 1641 EDITION THE FIGURE OF BACON APPEARS ON THE RIGHT SIDE OF THE PLATE AND IN THE 1644 EDITION THE PLATE IS PRINTED IN THE REVERSE WITH THE FIGURE OF BACON APPEARING ON THE LEFT SIDE. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kate Posted March 10, 2022 Share Posted March 10, 2022 (edited) 8 hours ago, Light-of-Truth said: You've written a book, Kate, so you know what I am talking about when Knowledge flows from a level of consciousness not easily accessed in our normal day-to-day lifestyle. Doing it by hand slows the output a little, and allows it to manifest and develop more I believe. Even so, tools like Photoshop, Illustrator, AutoCAD, etc., provide a method of communication for sharing discoveries and ideas that should be in every creative person's toolbox. Thank you for this Rob. Yes, totally know that feeling of ‘where the heck did that thought come from’ ‘! K Edited March 10, 2022 by Kate Cassidy 2 "For nothing is born without unity or without the point." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Light-of-Truth Posted March 10, 2022 Share Posted March 10, 2022 The guy sitting has a Light sleeve/arm in one and a Dark in the other. 2 T A A A A A A A A A A A T 157 www.Light-of-Truth.com 287 <-- 1 8 8 1 1 O 1 1 8 8 1 --> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kate Posted March 10, 2022 Share Posted March 10, 2022 5 minutes ago, Allisnum2er said: So who are these men? Obviously Bacon pointing but the other two are the ones on all the other images posted recently. Well spotted with the 44, 55 - is there a 33 somewhere! 2 "For nothing is born without unity or without the point." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allisnum2er Posted March 10, 2022 Share Posted March 10, 2022 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Light-of-Truth said: The guy sitting has a Light sleeve/arm in one and a Dark in the other. And is it just me or the 3 guys seem to be the same than the 3 guys on the frontispiece of the German edition of "The Wisdom of the ancient" ? Edited March 10, 2022 by Allisnum2er 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Light-of-Truth Posted March 10, 2022 Share Posted March 10, 2022 I recognized the others as well. Who are they? Jonson, Ralegh? 1 T A A A A A A A A A A A T 157 www.Light-of-Truth.com 287 <-- 1 8 8 1 1 O 1 1 8 8 1 --> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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