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8 hours ago, A Phoenix said:

Wasn't exactly sure where to put this post  - but it will certainly be of much interest to anyone interested in the Elizabethan period in general and Francis Bacon in particular. Although not sure ALL the censored pages will be made public. Camden knew a thing or two about how to present history. He was a close friend, confidante and collaborator of Bacon, and a member of his Rosicrucian Brotherhood, who left cryptical clues (anagrams, etc) revealing that FB was our secret supreme poet and dramatist Shakespeare.  

Mather Walker:

https://sirbacon.org/mcompeerpart2of3.htm

William Camden, Jonson's revered teacher and close friend, was also a close friend of Bacon’s. Spedding notes that a considerable number of alterations and additions to the fourth book of Camden's Annals of Queen Elizabeth were found in a copy in the Cottonian Library, and these alteration and additions were in Francis Bacon's handwriting.

2023 has a lot of Baconian potential! 🙂

 

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New Imaging Technology Uncovers 400-Year-Old Hidden Elizabethan Text

Did Elizabeth I name James as her successor?
Camden’s Annals ends with Elizabeth I’s obituary, in which she is said to have named James VI of Scotland as her successor on her deathbed. Elizabeth never married and she died childless in 1603, to be succeeded on the English throne by Mary’s son, James VI of Scotland. Analysis of the manuscript drafts shows that the deathbed scene was a fabricated addition that Camden did not intend originally to put into his history. He presumably included it to appease James, so that his succession looked more predetermined than it had actually been. Elizabeth was too ill to speak in her final hours and no other historical evidence points to this deathbed scene being true.

Funny, I am looking at almost 200 references about Camden on SirBacon.org and many of them are posts by everyone but me on the B'Hive mentioning him! LOL

I "Like" or Wow" the posts, then the name Camden fades away. Articles on SirBacon.org and in Baconiana refer to Camden often and I have read a lot of them.

Today, July 14, 2023 Camden's name is Branded into my brain! 🙂

 

 

 

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My research for a video brought me to "The Ruins of Time" by Edmund Spenser (Francis Bacon's Mask).

Cambden is mentionned by E.S.

https://www.luminarium.org/renascence-editions/ruines.html

Cambden the nourice of antiquitie,
And lanterne vnto late succeeding age,
To see the light of simple veritie,
Buried in ruines, through the great outrage
Of her owne people, led with warlike rage;
Cambden, though Time all moniments obscure,
Yet thy iust labours euer shall endure.

"To see the light of simple veritie" 😊

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Hi Yann,

There appears to be an anagram of F BACON down the left hand side:

Cambden the nourice of antiquitie,
And lanterne vnto late succeeding age,
To see the light of simple veritie,
Buried in ruines, through the great outrage
Of her owne people, led with warlike rage;
Cambden, though Time all moniments obscure,
Yet thy iust labours euer shall endure.

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51 minutes ago, A Phoenix said:

Hi Yann,

There appears to be an anagram of F BACON down the left hand side:

Cambden the nourice of antiquitie,
And lanterne vnto late succeeding age,
To see the light of simple veritie,
Buried in ruines, through the great outrage
Of her owne people, led with warlike rage;
Cambden, though Time all moniments obscure,
Yet thy iust labours euer shall endure.

Hi A PHoenix,

Indeed ! 😊 That is also the reason why I shared it with you !

I wonder if the word used originally was not warlike but war-like.

Thus, there would be 33 words between the two Cambden  in Italic, "simple" and "veritie" being the 16th et 17th Roman words, with 16+17=33=BACON (The simple veritie 😉 )

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If I can jump in, my first look I saw the "To" as 33 Simple cipher.

Cambden the nourice of antiquitie,
And lanterne vnto late succeeding age,
To see the light of simple veritie,
Buried in ruines, through the great outrage
Of her owne people, led with warlike rage;
Cambden, though Time all moniments obscure,
Yet thy iust labours euer shall endure.

Do I see TUDOR?

Cambden the nourice of antiquitie,
And lanterne vnto late succeeding age,
To see the light of simple veritie,
Buried in ruines, through the great outrage
Of her owne people, led with warlike rage;
Cambden, though Time all moniments obscure,
Yet thy iust labours euer shall endure.

"Moniments obscure euer shall endure."

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Hi Yann and Rob,

Yann, I guessed you had already spotted the F BACON anagram. You were mostly likely just testing us!

Rob, I would obviously concur with your keen-eye spot of TO (33) and the TUDOR anagram.

To compress F BACON, TO 33 BACON in simple cipher and TUDOR in such a small compass in a verse concealed behind his living mask Edmumd Spenser is even impressive by the Great One's standards!

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1 hour ago, A Phoenix said:

Hi Yann and Rob,

Yann, I guessed you had already spotted the F BACON anagram. You were mostly likely justed testing us!

Rob, I would obviously concur with your keen-eye spot of TO (33) and the TUDOR anagram.

To compress F BACON, TO 33 BACON in simple cipher and TUDOR in such a small compass in a verse concealed behind his living mask Emumd Spener is even impressive by the Great One's standards!

Hi A Phoenix,

I swear that I was not testing you. I knew that you and Rob would find the F Bacon anagram. This time, I just wanted to share with you the exhilarating feeling facing the light of the simple veritie 😊

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37 minutes ago, Allisnum2er said:

Hi A Phoenix,

I swear that I was not testing you. I knew that you and Rob would find the F Bacon anagram. This time, I just wanted to share with you the exhilarating feeling facing the light of the simple veritie 😊

Yann, if you had an original scan we'd be enjoying your special gift of connecting letters and symbols with points, lines, and angles (angels)! 🙂

.......

The Secrets in the hidden Camden pages are soooo important. A few know what is behind the veil. Can they, or will they, tell it all?

What if Camden says in the Annals that Elizabeth I had a son she named William who was raised as Francis Bacon. And that William as Francis Bacon wrote Shakespeare. Would that be cool??

Ooooops, sorry. But I am so excited about what he did say that was obviously hidden on purpose by some who's eyes have read the Truth. Even today I have a low expectancy that we will see the real Bacon and Eggs, but still thrilled so much I want to jump up and down! 🙂

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13 minutes ago, Light-of-Truth said:

Ooooops, sorry. But I am so excited about what he did say that was obviously hidden on purpose by some who's eyes have read the Truth. Even today I have a low expectancy that we will see the real Bacon and Eggs, but still thrilled so much I want to jump up and down! 🙂

Lol ! Rob, What a good timing! At this exact moment, I am on page 53 of Histories facing Bacon and Eggs ! 😁

https://internetshakespeare.uvic.ca/Library/facsimile/book/SLNSW_F1/373/?zoom=850

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I'll be hanged! I need to finish watering our wilting flower garden and wrap up my domestic duties. But we know this page.

I need to get familiar again always seeing something new! But for now, thank you our Brother Yann for sharing the page! And by no means "Farewell"! LOL

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10 minutes ago, Light-of-Truth said:

I'll be hanged! I need to finish watering our wilting flower garden and wrap up my domestic duties. But we know this page.

I need to get familiar again always seeing something new! But for now, thank you our Brother Yann for sharing the page! And by no means "Farewell"! LOL

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"I by Letters shall direct your course" ! 🙂 

Happy GARdening, Brother Rob . 😊

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19 minutes ago, Allisnum2er said:

"I by Letters shall direct your course" ! 🙂 

Happy GARdening, Brother Rob . 😊

Tonight, I need to be outside. Maybe the Owls will visit. They make me laugh and they apparently have fun making me laugh.

I looked Deep into page 53, and 52, long enough to remember why I consider these pages the very finest Rosicrucian cipher "lesson" in all of Shakespeare. May be the Bacon/Shakespeare Cipher Course 101 Final Exam. 😉

But I need some real Nature this evening, and unclasping a Secret booke, no Matter how dangerous and full of perill, has to wait tonight. But off my computer I am still thinking, and this World of Figures is one of my first playgrounds.

These Two pages could be a pretty large booke when examined! LOL

 

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2 hours ago, Allisnum2er said:

Happy GARdening, Brother Rob . 😊

May 2022, I think, you said:

1) "OF GARDEN" is the anagram of "DEN OF GAR" or in other terms  "THE LAIR OF THE SPEAR"

    Indeed GAR is a synonym of SPEAR, and GAR is the 33 rd rune of the anglo-saxon Futhark. 33 = BACON

Always loved this 33 second video:

https://sirbacon.org/bacon-forum/uploads/monthly_2022_05/Tobie.mp4.9ca9e357ce870a4cff82e5b66c0717a1.mp4

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So I did see Two Owls tonight, but they did not present themselves in the open for me. I saw them fly into the yard in the dark dusk. I am sure with their big giant eyes and night vision they were in full site of me and I could not see them with my tiny human eyes, and they were laughing at me!

Away from my computer, which is like medicine sometimes, I remembered learning pages 52 and 53, and when counting lines for very good reasons a page or two back and forward Matter too. This may be where and how I learned to count letters, words, and lines. I remember this particular and exciting Treasure Hunt like it was yesterday. 100 words, or letters, to one place, 157 letters or words to another, 33 and 287 come up as well, all weaving a very cool story. I could not tell you how many hours I have been immersed in this place. John Dee is mentioned in cipher if not emphasized.

Tonight, I see more already!!! I thought I got every drop, but how naive I was!

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Shall it for shame, be spoken in these dayes,
Or fill vp Chronicles in time to come,

SHA is 1881; S=18, H=8, A=1, or 1881. The "Time/Eternity" number.

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Chronicles in time to come? SirBacon.org and the B'Hive?

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On 7/15/2023 at 4:15 PM, Allisnum2er said:

Lol ! Rob, What a good timing! At this exact moment, I am on page 53 of Histories facing Bacon and Eggs ! 😁

https://internetshakespeare.uvic.ca/Library/facsimile/book/SLNSW_F1/373/?zoom=850

Coincidence today:

My wife and I were eating and enjoying a couple sandwiches at one of our local favorite restaurants. Theresa was on her phone looking at menus of places we have not been yet. We both do that sometimes.

She was reading the items on a Cuban sandwich I think as she loves true Cuban Cubans. LOL

She read the word "Gammon" and asked me what it meant. All I could say is, "A Gammon of Bacon is in Shakespeare."

🙂

 Below is from your page 53, Yann, not even bringing up what has been said before! LOL

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Ok, yea, I can't leave it alone. What I am sharing I have shared before. Sorry to be redundant, but I get so excited about this "Lesson" by Bacon and some Good Pens!

Start with "Rose" and page 52:

https://internetshakespeare.uvic.ca/Library/facsimile/book/SLNSW_F1/372/index.html%3Fzoom=850.html

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Count the lines of speech in the play, and look at the result:

https://internetshakespeare.uvic.ca/Library/facsimile/book/SLNSW_F1/373/index.html%3Fzoom=850.html

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I mean seriously, from Rose to Bacon > crosse are 157 Lines.

For what its worth, GAMMON is 111 Kaye cipher.

OMG! Real story! I finished above and ready to hit Submit and I heard "One Fifty Seven, thanks for the ride" very loud in my earbuds by coincidence!!

It was at the very end of this song by REO Speedway.

 

 

 

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On 7/15/2023 at 7:18 PM, Allisnum2er said:

Happy GARdening, Brother Rob . 😊

GAR = SPEAR, I do love a Garden.

You said, "...GAR is a synonym of SPEAR, and GAR is the 33 rd rune of the anglo-saxon Futhark."

I have a thing for you that is even a surprise to me! LOL

Pages 52 and 53 are perhaps two of the richest cipher Treasure Chests available to us. I have come back here many times since my first excavation of the antiquities hidden in plain sight. Many have come before me as well.

Page 52, early in the content there is a line framed on both sides with parenthesis.

(As Both of you, God pardon it, haue done)

https://internetshakespeare.uvic.ca/Library/facsimile/book/SLNSW_F1/372/index.html%3Fzoom=850.html

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The line after that framed line starts with "To put down..." For me when I see "To" I see 33. TO is 33 Simple cipher.

I am well aware that "To" is one of the most popular words to begin every line in Bacon's time. Think how many books begin the important stuff with "To the..."

Anyway, these two pages are about counting. Counting must have been Bacon's Lesson here.

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103 words of speech from the framed line to possibly my very favorite line in all of Shakespeare, "And now I will vnclaspe a Secret booke"

SHAKESPEARE is 103 Simple cipher. The "Secret booke" is Shakespeare. Not only the 1623 First Folio, but the entire Library, whatever that is.

Then...

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33 words until "Speare." Perfect. We begin with "To" which is 33 Simple cipher, count it and 103 words to my favorite line and 103 is the Simple cipher of SHAKESPEARE. Then we have 33 words to "Speare." You gotta love it!

But did you notice "Shake" anywhere? It is not there, right?

Or is it? I swear my imagination runs wild at times!

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Hi Rob,

Today is Day 287 and the anniversary of your website Light-of-Truth.com.

Here is a little gift for you.

This is something I worked on last April. I have hesitated for a long time to include it in my video "Filum Labyrinthi".

But I decided to keep it for this special occasion 😉.

 

 

HAPPY BIRTH-DAY !

LONG LIFE TO LIGHT-OF-TRUTH.COM

Much Love ❤️

Yann

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4 hours ago, Allisnum2er said:

Hi Rob,

Today is Day 287 and the anniversary of your website Light-of-Truth.com.

Here is a little gift for you.

This is something I worked on last April. I have hesitated for a long time to include it in my video "Filum Labyrinthi".

But I decided to keep it for this special occasion 😉.

 

 

HAPPY BIRTH-DAY !

LONG LIFE TO LIGHT-OF-TRUTH.COM

Much Love ❤️

Yann

Thank you, Yann! What a beautiful way to start Day 287, 2023! 🙂

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3 hours ago, A Phoenix said:

Hi Rob,

Happy twentieth birthday Light of Truth!

By a complete synchronicity we have a gift for you later.😉

The Phoenixes.❤️❤️xx

Thank you A Phoenix!! 🙂

I remember this day 20 years ago like it was yesterday. LOL

 

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