Light-of-Truth Posted May 1 Share Posted May 1 1 hour ago, A Phoenix said: Paper: https://www.academia.edu/45176854/The_play_Like_Will_to_Like_written_by_Francis_Bacon_when_he_was_only_seven_years_old_one_of_three_works_written_in_the_name_of_Ulpian_Fulwell_and_their_links_to_the_Shakespeare_Plays Video: https://youtu.be/y42VMzO0ztY For no such.. But come to me.. And see that... F BACON and TUDOR. 🙂 1 1 T A A A A A A A A A A A T 157 www.Light-of-Truth.com 287 <-- 1 8 8 1 1 O 1 1 8 8 1 --> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allisnum2er Posted May 1 Share Posted May 1 8 minutes ago, Light-of-Truth said: For no such.. But come to me.. And see that... F BACON and TUDOR. 🙂 Hi Rob, Well spotted ! I think that we can add one layer ... For no such.. But come to me.. And see that... SEE ME , F BACON, TUDOR SON 😃 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Light-of-Truth Posted May 1 Share Posted May 1 23 minutes ago, Allisnum2er said: Hi Rob, Well spotted ! I think that we can add one layer ... For no such.. But come to me.. And see that... SEE ME , F BACON, TUDOR SON 😃 We can't ignore the "I wil" (Will I) either. 😉 See me, I am F Bacon, Will, Tudor Son I. 2 T A A A A A A A A A A A T 157 www.Light-of-Truth.com 287 <-- 1 8 8 1 1 O 1 1 8 8 1 --> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A Phoenix Posted May 3 Author Share Posted May 3 Newfangle In a curious jest Newfangle tells his two confederates Tosspot and Roister that he will act as a Judge in a mock court of law and pass judgement on which of them is the truest knave in a passage which our dramatist pointedly plays or puns on the full name of Nichole Newfangle the Vice: #FrancisBacon #Shakespeare #ShakespeareAuthorship #LikeWillToLike Paper: https://www.academia.edu/45176854/The_play_Like_Will_to_Like_written_by_Francis_Bacon_when_he_was_only_seven_years_old_one_of_three_works_written_in_the_name_of_Ulpian_Fulwell_and_their_links_to_the_Shakespeare_Plays Video: https://youtu.be/y42VMzO0ztY 1 https://aphoenix1.academia.edu/ https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCrY7wzlXnZiT1Urwx7jP6fQ/videos Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A Phoenix Posted May 3 Author Share Posted May 3 Nicholas Bacon & Nichole Newfangle This whole passage is framed by Nichole Newfangle when he directs Tom Tosspot to state his name. In other words the whole passage is meant to be about a name, or the meaning of a name, and who that name refers or alludes to. The name Nichole/Nicole is used for a woman and a man. The name Nicole is a French feminine derivative of the masculine name Nicholas. This is the Christian name of Sir Nicholas Bacon, who is a Judge and sits in a real court of law passing judgement over knaves and criminals around the country. In fact, as Lord Keeper and de facto Lord Chancellor of England, he held the highest legal office in the kingdom meaning he was the most senior Judge in the land. Like Francis himself his father Sir Nicholas Bacon was renowned for his wit and it was said by their contemporaries (most notably in the case of Francis by the poet and dramatist Ben Jonson) that neither of them could pass by a jest. This jest by Francis where the Judge Nichole Newfangle was a cipher for the virtuous and upright Judge Lord Keeper Sir Nicholas Bacon must have brought the Bacon family much mirth on many occasions. #FrancisBacon #Shakespeare #ShakespeareAuthorship #LikeWillToLike Paper: https://www.academia.edu/45176854/The_play_Like_Will_to_Like_written_by_Francis_Bacon_when_he_was_only_seven_years_old_one_of_three_works_written_in_the_name_of_Ulpian_Fulwell_and_their_links_to_the_Shakespeare_Plays Video: https://youtu.be/y42VMzO0ztY 2 https://aphoenix1.academia.edu/ https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCrY7wzlXnZiT1Urwx7jP6fQ/videos Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric Roberts Posted May 3 Share Posted May 3 40 minutes ago, A Phoenix said: Nicholas Bacon & Nichole Newfangle This whole passage is framed by Nichole Newfangle when he directs Tom Tosspot to state his name. In other words the whole passage is meant to be about a name, or the meaning of a name, and who that name refers or alludes to. The name Nichole/Nicole is used for a woman and a man. The name Nicole is a French feminine derivative of the masculine name Nicholas. This is the Christian name of Sir Nicholas Bacon, who is a Judge and sits in a real court of law passing judgement over knaves and criminals around the country. In fact, as Lord Keeper and de facto Lord Chancellor of England, he held the highest legal office in the kingdom meaning he was the most senior Judge in the land. Like Francis himself his father Sir Nicholas Bacon was renowned for his wit and it was said by their contemporaries (most notably in the case of Francis by the poet and dramatist Ben Jonson) that neither of them could pass by a jest. This jest by Francis where the Judge Nichole Newfangle was a cipher for the virtuous and upright Judge Lord Keeper Sir Nicholas Bacon must have brought the Bacon family much mirth on many occasions. #FrancisBacon #Shakespeare #ShakespeareAuthorship #LikeWillToLike Paper: https://www.academia.edu/45176854/The_play_Like_Will_to_Like_written_by_Francis_Bacon_when_he_was_only_seven_years_old_one_of_three_works_written_in_the_name_of_Ulpian_Fulwell_and_their_links_to_the_Shakespeare_Plays Video: https://youtu.be/y42VMzO0ztY No clues online as to what a "leripup" is....? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A Phoenix Posted May 3 Author Share Posted May 3 Hi Eric, Can't immediately find any information on this curious word but we have a feeling it's something to do with learning/knowledge. We have looked on the Shakespeare search engine and it appears it does not feature in the plays. However it apparently appears in Pierces supererogation or A new prayse of the old asse A preparatiue to certaine larger discourses, intituled Nashes s. fame. Harvey, Gabriel, 1550?-1631. London: Imprinted by Iohn VVolfe, 1593. Pierces supererogation or A new prayse of the old asse ... https://quod.lib.umich.edu › eebo Erasmus in Latine, and Sir Thomas More in English, were supposed fine, and pleasant Confuters in their time, ... Nashe is learned, & knoweth his Leripup. https://quod.lib.umich.edu/e/eebo/A02775.0001.001/1:5?rgn=div1;view=fulltext Gabriel Harvey was one of Cambridge University's senior figures. Perhaps the word is of Latin or French origin although it does sound rather more Old English/Saxon. Very interesting. . . 2 https://aphoenix1.academia.edu/ https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCrY7wzlXnZiT1Urwx7jP6fQ/videos Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allisnum2er Posted May 3 Share Posted May 3 Hi everyone, Here is something that should help you 😉 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liripipe#Notes Have a good day. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A Phoenix Posted May 3 Author Share Posted May 3 Hi Yann, Thank you very much!😄 Like the long-tailed hood but also: Other uses[edit] The variant spelling liripoop has also the obsolete meaning of "silly person",[3] most probably because it is an inherently funny word, cf. "Nincompoop".[4] 3 https://aphoenix1.academia.edu/ https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCrY7wzlXnZiT1Urwx7jP6fQ/videos Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric Roberts Posted May 3 Share Posted May 3 16 minutes ago, A Phoenix said: Hi Yann, Thank you very much!😄 Like the long-tailed hood but also: Other uses[edit] The variant spelling liripoop has also the obsolete meaning of "silly person",[3] most probably because it is an inherently funny word, cf. "Nincompoop".[4] "I will teach you both your leripup to know". Unfortunately, neither meaning of the word - garment or buffoon - seem to fit the meaning of the sentence. We need a Medieval English scholar, perhaps. 🙂 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Light-of-Truth Posted May 3 Share Posted May 3 Here is a little more: 2 1 T A A A A A A A A A A A T 157 www.Light-of-Truth.com 287 <-- 1 8 8 1 1 O 1 1 8 8 1 --> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allisnum2er Posted May 3 Share Posted May 3 4 hours ago, Eric Roberts said: "I will teach you both your leripup to know". Unfortunately, neither meaning of the word - garment or buffoon - seem to fit the meaning of the sentence. We need a Medieval English scholar, perhaps. 🙂 Hi Eric, I shared this link for the following passage ... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liripipe#Notes "Perhaps due to its academic association, the word has the obsolete sense of "part or lesson committed to memory", as in the expressions "to know one's liripipe" and "to teach someone his liripipe"." ... that seems to feet with the speech of Newfangle " I will teach you both your leripup to knowe" 🙂 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A Phoenix Posted May 4 Author Share Posted May 4 The two tavern characters and drunkards Hance and Philip Fleming (the kind of characters employed by Bacon in the Henry IV plays) are brought on stage for some tomfoolery and drunken mirth and Nichole Newfangle the Vice has is fun with them. They exit and Cuthbert Cutpurse and Pierce Pickpurse make their appearance who as their names suggest think it a sport to pick the pockets of the unwary taking especial delight in lifting the purses of unsuspecting women whom they are prone to speak of in very disrespectful terms. Nichole, the Vice gives out to them false promises of lucrative plots of lands which will eventually prove their downfall and demise. #FrancisBacon #Shakespeare #ShakespeareAuthorship #LikeWillToLike Paper: https://www.academia.edu/45176854/The_play_Like_Will_to_Like_written_by_Francis_Bacon_when_he_was_only_seven_years_old_one_of_three_works_written_in_the_name_of_Ulpian_Fulwell_and_their_links_to_the_Shakespeare_Plays Video: https://youtu.be/y42VMzO0ztY 3 https://aphoenix1.academia.edu/ https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCrY7wzlXnZiT1Urwx7jP6fQ/videos Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A Phoenix Posted May 4 Author Share Posted May 4 The Vice The Master of Ceremonies Nichole Newfangle the Vice holds them all in the palms of his manipulative hands. Through the combined wickedness of the Vice and their own erring ways of evil and villainy Roister and Tosspot are reduced to beggary. Deceived and humiliated Roister and Tosspot turn on the Vice and repeatedly beat him with a staff and a bottle overpowering him down to the floor. The pathetic Vice comically waves his wooden dagger around as he tries to defend himself and cries out for help as Roister and Tosspot make a run for it. #FrancisBacon #Shakespeare #ShakespeareAuthorship #LikeWillToLike Paper: https://www.academia.edu/45176854/The_play_Like_Will_to_Like_written_by_Francis_Bacon_when_he_was_only_seven_years_old_one_of_three_works_written_in_the_name_of_Ulpian_Fulwell_and_their_links_to_the_Shakespeare_Plays Video: https://youtu.be/y42VMzO0ztY 3 https://aphoenix1.academia.edu/ https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCrY7wzlXnZiT1Urwx7jP6fQ/videos Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A Phoenix Posted May 4 Author Share Posted May 4 The drunkards Hance and Philip Fleming sick with gout end their miserable days as diseased inmates of the spital house the hospital for the poor infested with lice in pain and misery. The final pair Cuthbert Cutpurse and Pierce Pickpurse depart the world swinging from the gallows. #FrancisBacon #Shakespeare #ShakespeareAuthorship #LikeWillToLike Paper: https://www.academia.edu/45176854/The_play_Like_Will_to_Like_written_by_Francis_Bacon_when_he_was_only_seven_years_old_one_of_three_works_written_in_the_name_of_Ulpian_Fulwell_and_their_links_to_the_Shakespeare_Plays Video: https://youtu.be/y42VMzO0ztY 2 1 https://aphoenix1.academia.edu/ https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCrY7wzlXnZiT1Urwx7jP6fQ/videos Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A Phoenix Posted May 4 Author Share Posted May 4 With the play drawing to a close the Devil Lucifer rewards the Vice by taking him on his back through Spain off to Hell. #FrancisBacon #Shakespeare #ShakespeareAuthorship #LikeWillToLike Paper: https://www.academia.edu/45176854/The_play_Like_Will_to_Like_written_by_Francis_Bacon_when_he_was_only_seven_years_old_one_of_three_works_written_in_the_name_of_Ulpian_Fulwell_and_their_links_to_the_Shakespeare_Plays Video: https://youtu.be/y42VMzO0ztY 1 2 https://aphoenix1.academia.edu/ https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCrY7wzlXnZiT1Urwx7jP6fQ/videos Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A Phoenix Posted May 4 Author Share Posted May 4 Virtuous Life, Honour and Good Fame then enter to praise their noble and gracious Queen Elizabeth. Honour asks God Almighty to preserve the Privy Council of which Lord Keeper Sir Nicholas Bacon was a member, the Lords temporal and spiritual and House of Commons. The play ends with Virtuous Life, Honour and Good Fame triumphantly singing a song about God’s vengeance over Satan, or in other words, the triumph of Good over Evil. #FrancisBacon #Shakespeare #ShakespeareAuthorship #LikeWillToLike Paper: https://www.academia.edu/45176854/The_play_Like_Will_to_Like_written_by_Francis_Bacon_when_he_was_only_seven_years_old_one_of_three_works_written_in_the_name_of_Ulpian_Fulwell_and_their_links_to_the_Shakespeare_Plays Video: https://youtu.be/y42VMzO0ztY 2 https://aphoenix1.academia.edu/ https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCrY7wzlXnZiT1Urwx7jP6fQ/videos Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric Roberts Posted May 4 Share Posted May 4 1 hour ago, A Phoenix said: The two tavern characters and drunkards Hance and Philip Fleming (the kind of characters employed by Bacon in the Henry IV plays) are brought on stage for some tomfoolery and drunken mirth and Nichole Newfangle the Vice has is fun with them. They exit and Cuthbert Cutpurse and Pierce Pickpurse make their appearance who as their names suggest think it a sport to pick the pockets of the unwary taking especial delight in lifting the purses of unsuspecting women whom they are prone to speak of in very disrespectful terms. Nichole, the Vice gives out to them false promises of lucrative plots of lands which will eventually prove their downfall and demise. #FrancisBacon #Shakespeare #ShakespeareAuthorship #LikeWillToLike Paper: https://www.academia.edu/45176854/The_play_Like_Will_to_Like_written_by_Francis_Bacon_when_he_was_only_seven_years_old_one_of_three_works_written_in_the_name_of_Ulpian_Fulwell_and_their_links_to_the_Shakespeare_Plays Video: https://youtu.be/y42VMzO0ztY Hi A Phoenix How incredible that a young boy of seven could conceive and write so confidently for the stage! It seems that here we have the actual prototype of Shake-speare's Comedies. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric Roberts Posted May 4 Share Posted May 4 1 hour ago, A Phoenix said: The drunkards Hance and Philip Fleming sick with gout end their miserable days as diseased inmates of the spital house the hospital for the poor infested with lice in pain and misery. The final pair Cuthbert Cutpurse and Pierce Pickpurse depart the world swinging from the gallows. #FrancisBacon #Shakespeare #ShakespeareAuthorship #LikeWillToLike Paper: https://www.academia.edu/45176854/The_play_Like_Will_to_Like_written_by_Francis_Bacon_when_he_was_only_seven_years_old_one_of_three_works_written_in_the_name_of_Ulpian_Fulwell_and_their_links_to_the_Shakespeare_Plays Video: https://youtu.be/y42VMzO0ztY Excellent illustration, A.P. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric Roberts Posted May 4 Share Posted May 4 1 hour ago, A Phoenix said: Virtuous Life, Honour and Good Fame then enter to praise their noble and gracious Queen Elizabeth. Honour asks God Almighty to preserve the Privy Council of which Lord Keeper Sir Nicholas Bacon was a member, the Lords temporal and spiritual and House of Commons. The play ends with Virtuous Life, Honour and Good Fame triumphantly singing a song about God’s vengeance over Satan, or in other words, the triumph of Good over Evil. #FrancisBacon #Shakespeare #ShakespeareAuthorship #LikeWillToLike Paper: https://www.academia.edu/45176854/The_play_Like_Will_to_Like_written_by_Francis_Bacon_when_he_was_only_seven_years_old_one_of_three_works_written_in_the_name_of_Ulpian_Fulwell_and_their_links_to_the_Shakespeare_Plays Video: https://youtu.be/y42VMzO0ztY A beautifully written precis of the play. Well done and thanks. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Light-of-Truth Posted May 4 Share Posted May 4 2 hours ago, Eric Roberts said: Hi A Phoenix How incredible that a young boy of seven could conceive and write so confidently for the stage! It seems that here we have the actual prototype of Shake-speare's Comedies. Clearly the young Francis was being coached and encouraged by Sir Nicholas and Lady Anne Bacon. This may be Francis' first play and it could be a Bacon Family production. That makes me consider the real possibility that Nicholas and Anne knew exactly who "Shakespeare" was from the very beginning. 2 T A A A A A A A A A A A T 157 www.Light-of-Truth.com 287 <-- 1 8 8 1 1 O 1 1 8 8 1 --> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A Phoenix Posted May 4 Author Share Posted May 4 Hi Eric, Probably, only the Great One could write a play when he was only seven years old and what is amazing is the central themes of Like Will to Like are written large across the much greater canvas of his Shakespeare plays, to an extent which is truly astonishing much of which will be revealed in the later slides. 3 https://aphoenix1.academia.edu/ https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCrY7wzlXnZiT1Urwx7jP6fQ/videos Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A Phoenix Posted May 5 Author Share Posted May 5 Good & Evil As we have seen the central theme of the play Like Will to Like is the dichotomy of good and evil explored through its characters or one might say the different colours of good and evil, the very title of the work by Bacon, which appeared in the first printed work with his name as sole author to it, the 1597 edition of his Essays. #FrancisBacon #Shakespeare #ShakespeareAuthorship #LikeWillToLike Paper: https://www.academia.edu/45176854/The_play_Like_Will_to_Like_written_by_Francis_Bacon_when_he_was_only_seven_years_old_one_of_three_works_written_in_the_name_of_Ulpian_Fulwell_and_their_links_to_the_Shakespeare_Plays Video: https://youtu.be/y42VMzO0ztY 4 https://aphoenix1.academia.edu/ https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCrY7wzlXnZiT1Urwx7jP6fQ/videos Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A Phoenix Posted May 5 Author Share Posted May 5 Promus From his early days until his last the subject of good and evil profoundly engaged his intellect. Over the period of his lifetime Bacon assembled a very large number of what he calls ‘Semblances or popularities of good and evill with their regulations for deliberacions’ in his Promus of Formularies and Elegancies (his private-notebook) in which he jotted down thoughts & phrases many of which he used in his acknowledged writings and his Shakespeare poems and plays. In the Promus there are around a hundred of this collection of colours of good and evil presented without any explanation indicating Bacon intended to publish a substantial treatise on the subject. [C. M. Pott, The Promus Of Formularies And Elegancies (Being Private Notes, circ. 1594, hitherto unpublished) By Francis Bacon Illustrated and Elucidated By Passages From Shakespeare (London: Longmans, Green, and Co., 1883), nos. 1440-60, 1246-1364] #FrancisBacon #Shakespeare #ShakespeareAuthorship #LikeWillToLike Paper: https://www.academia.edu/45176854/The_play_Like_Will_to_Like_written_by_Francis_Bacon_when_he_was_only_seven_years_old_one_of_three_works_written_in_the_name_of_Ulpian_Fulwell_and_their_links_to_the_Shakespeare_Plays Video: https://youtu.be/y42VMzO0ztY 3 https://aphoenix1.academia.edu/ https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCrY7wzlXnZiT1Urwx7jP6fQ/videos Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A Phoenix Posted May 5 Author Share Posted May 5 Colours of Good & Evil The first published version entitled Of the Colours of Good and Evil A Fragment includes only ten from the hundred in the Promus. As stated above a truncated treatise was first printed as part of Bacon’s first edition of his Essays with Meditationes Sacre (Religious Meditations) a collection of twelve essays on the subjects of theology and ethics complimenting his propositions on good and evil. #FrancisBacon #Shakespeare #ShakespeareAuthorship #LikeWillToLike Paper: https://www.academia.edu/45176854/The_play_Like_Will_to_Like_written_by_Francis_Bacon_when_he_was_only_seven_years_old_one_of_three_works_written_in_the_name_of_Ulpian_Fulwell_and_their_links_to_the_Shakespeare_Plays Video: https://youtu.be/y42VMzO0ztY 3 https://aphoenix1.academia.edu/ https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCrY7wzlXnZiT1Urwx7jP6fQ/videos Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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