Light-of-Truth Posted April 27 Share Posted April 27 There are a lot of differences between the two. 19 years difference of technology account for some of them. Also think of the 19 years of experience of the author and what he wants to leave behind for we in the future ages. 😉 2 T A A A A A A A A A A A T 157 www.Light-of-Truth.com 287 <-- 1 8 8 1 1 O 1 1 8 8 1 --> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Light-of-Truth Posted April 28 Share Posted April 28 5 hours ago, Allisnum2er said: I've just noticed an interesting difference between the Title-page of the 1st edition and the one of the 1587 edition, a difference that could be a clue. On the 1568 version there is an "F Bacon" and the word "name" that is not on the 1587. Both editions do have the word "hang" though. https://www.academia.edu/45176854/The_play_Like_Will_to_Like_written_by_Francis_Bacon_when_he_was_only_seven_years_old_one_of_three_works_written_in_the_name_of_Ulpian_Fulwell_and_their_links_to_the_Shakespeare_Plays 2 T A A A A A A A A A A A T 157 www.Light-of-Truth.com 287 <-- 1 8 8 1 1 O 1 1 8 8 1 --> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A Phoenix Posted April 28 Author Share Posted April 28 Early Education From his earliest years Lady Bacon personally supervised Francis’s early education carefully selecting his tutors and placing great emphasis on his instruction in radical Protestant theology with strong leanings towards Puritanism. Their earliest known tutor at Gorhambury was a chaplain named John Walsall, a graduate of Christ Church, Oxford. He acted as the tutor of the Francis and Anthony Bacons from 1566 to at least 1569. #FrancisBacon #Shakespeare #ShakespeareAuthorship #LikeWillToLike Paper: https://www.academia.edu/45176854/The_play_Like_Will_to_Like_written_by_Francis_Bacon_when_he_was_only_seven_years_old_one_of_three_works_written_in_the_name_of_Ulpian_Fulwell_and_their_links_to_the_Shakespeare_Plays Video: https://youtu.be/y42VMzO0ztY 3 https://aphoenix1.academia.edu/ https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCrY7wzlXnZiT1Urwx7jP6fQ/videos Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A Phoenix Posted April 28 Author Share Posted April 28 #FrancisBacon #Shakespeare #ShakespeareAuthorship #LikeWillToLike Paper: https://www.academia.edu/45176854/The_play_Like_Will_to_Like_written_by_Francis_Bacon_when_he_was_only_seven_years_old_one_of_three_works_written_in_the_name_of_Ulpian_Fulwell_and_their_links_to_the_Shakespeare_Plays Video: https://youtu.be/y42VMzO0ztY 3 https://aphoenix1.academia.edu/ https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCrY7wzlXnZiT1Urwx7jP6fQ/videos Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A Phoenix Posted April 28 Author Share Posted April 28 Classical Training Francis also received from Lady Bacon a rigorous teaching in classical and modern languages and a serious training in classical texts. In particular Francis was raised on the favourite authors Sir Nicholas and Lady Bacon’s, namely Seneca and Cicero, that they used to read to each other, as well as Francis. In a poem written for his wife Lady Anne in a time of his ‘great sickenes’ Sir Nicholas reveals how he took great comfort in her reading to him from her ‘Tullye’ (Cicero) and ‘my Senecke’: #FrancisBacon #Shakespeare #ShakespeareAuthorship #LikeWillToLike Paper: https://www.academia.edu/45176854/The_play_Like_Will_to_Like_written_by_Francis_Bacon_when_he_was_only_seven_years_old_one_of_three_works_written_in_the_name_of_Ulpian_Fulwell_and_their_links_to_the_Shakespeare_Plays Video: https://youtu.be/y42VMzO0ztY 3 1 https://aphoenix1.academia.edu/ https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCrY7wzlXnZiT1Urwx7jP6fQ/videos Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A Phoenix Posted April 28 Author Share Posted April 28 #FrancisBacon #Shakespeare #ShakespeareAuthorship #LikeWillToLike Paper: https://www.academia.edu/45176854/The_play_Like_Will_to_Like_written_by_Francis_Bacon_when_he_was_only_seven_years_old_one_of_three_works_written_in_the_name_of_Ulpian_Fulwell_and_their_links_to_the_Shakespeare_Plays Video: https://youtu.be/y42VMzO0ztY 2 1 https://aphoenix1.academia.edu/ https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCrY7wzlXnZiT1Urwx7jP6fQ/videos Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A Phoenix Posted April 29 Author Share Posted April 29 'The gallery walls at Gorhambury were adorned with Latin verses or sententiae chiefly drawn from Seneca and Cicero grouped together under twenty-two subjects or headings to prompt deep meditation and ‘used to teach and guide, acting as a mnemonic system of precepts’ which a young Francis Bacon contemplated and looked upon throughout his formative years preserved in a manuscript produced by Sir Nicholas Bacon for Jane, Lady Lumley (British Library Royal 17A XXIII)' [Elizabeth McCutcheon in Sir Nicholas Bacon’s Great House Sententiae The Latin text along with the first English translation (published by the University of Hawaii and the Sir Francis Bacon Foundation and Library Claremont, California with English Literary Renaissance, 1977 and Peter Dawkins, The Francis Bacon Research Trust Journal, Series I Volume 3: Dedication To The Light (published by The Francis Bacon Research Trust, 1984), pp. 84-90, at p. 84] Francis would put to good use the radical Protestant godly upbringing and classical education received at the hands of his mother Lady Bacon and her love of Cicero in the play Like Will To Like coupled with his own prodigious intellect and wit which would over time flower into him becoming the greatest playwright the world has ever seen. Paper: https://www.academia.edu/45176854/The_play_Like_Will_to_Like_written_by_Francis_Bacon_when_he_was_only_seven_years_old_one_of_three_works_written_in_the_name_of_Ulpian_Fulwell_and_their_links_to_the_Shakespeare_Plays Video: https://youtu.be/y42VMzO0ztY 1 2 https://aphoenix1.academia.edu/ https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCrY7wzlXnZiT1Urwx7jP6fQ/videos Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A Phoenix Posted April 29 Author Share Posted April 29 The Play The play written by Bacon when he was only seven years old was registered on the Stationers’ Register in circa September 1568 ‘Recevyd of John alde for his lycense for prynting of a play lyke Wyll to lyke quod the Deuell to the Collyer …iiijd’.240 It was first printed towards the end of 1568 by the printer John Allde to give it its full title as An Enterlude Intituled Like Wil to Like quod the Deuel to the Colier, very godly and full of pleasant mirth. Wherin is declared not onely what punishment followeth those that wil rather followe licentious liuing, then to esteem & followe good councel: and what great benefits and commodities they receiue that apply them unto vertuous liuing and good exercises. The only one surviving copy of the 1568 edition of Like Will to Like is housed at the Bodleian Library in Oxford. Paper: https://www.academia.edu/45176854/The_play_Like_Will_to_Like_written_by_Francis_Bacon_when_he_was_only_seven_years_old_one_of_three_works_written_in_the_name_of_Ulpian_Fulwell_and_their_links_to_the_Shakespeare_Plays Video: https://youtu.be/y42VMzO0ztY 1 2 https://aphoenix1.academia.edu/ https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCrY7wzlXnZiT1Urwx7jP6fQ/videos Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A Phoenix Posted April 29 Author Share Posted April 29 We do not need to look very far for evidence of Francis Bacon’s authorship of Like Will to Like. He marked its true provenance with an anagram on the very first page of its text. The prologue to Like Will to Like commences with the name of Lady Bacon’s favourite author Cicero in its first six lines (3+3=6 and when the numbers 3 and 3 are placed together they yield 33 Bacon in simple cipher) in its first paragraph as follows: Paper: https://www.academia.edu/45176854/The_play_Like_Will_to_Like_written_by_Francis_Bacon_when_he_was_only_seven_years_old_one_of_three_works_written_in_the_name_of_Ulpian_Fulwell_and_their_links_to_the_Shakespeare_Plays Video: https://youtu.be/y42VMzO0ztY 1 1 https://aphoenix1.academia.edu/ https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCrY7wzlXnZiT1Urwx7jP6fQ/videos Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A Phoenix Posted April 29 Author Share Posted April 29 It will be observed that the first letters commencing the first six lines are C, S, W, F, B, A which form an anagram. Due to the deliberate formatting four letters CFBA are separated by the indenting of the other two lines. If we rearrange the four letters they alone spell out F BAC evidently a contraction of F. Bacon. Yet there is no need even for this contraction. The other two letters required to spell out F. Bacon the O and N are printed next to the F and A in the fourth and sixth lines respectively so here we have F. BACON in full. Paper: https://www.academia.edu/45176854/The_play_Like_Will_to_Like_written_by_Francis_Bacon_when_he_was_only_seven_years_old_one_of_three_works_written_in_the_name_of_Ulpian_Fulwell_and_their_links_to_the_Shakespeare_Plays Video: https://youtu.be/y42VMzO0ztY 1 1 https://aphoenix1.academia.edu/ https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCrY7wzlXnZiT1Urwx7jP6fQ/videos Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Light-of-Truth Posted April 29 Share Posted April 29 6 hours ago, A Phoenix said: It will be observed that the first letters commencing the first six lines are C, S, W, F, B, A which form an anagram. Due to the deliberate formatting four letters CFBA are separated by the indenting of the other two lines. If we rearrange the four letters they alone spell out F BAC evidently a contraction of F. Bacon. Yet there is no need even for this contraction. The other two letters required to spell out F. Bacon the O and N are printed next to the F and A in the fourth and sixth lines respectively so here we have F. BACON in full. Paper: https://www.academia.edu/45176854/The_play_Like_Will_to_Like_written_by_Francis_Bacon_when_he_was_only_seven_years_old_one_of_three_works_written_in_the_name_of_Ulpian_Fulwell_and_their_links_to_the_Shakespeare_Plays Video: https://youtu.be/y42VMzO0ztY Seven year old genius and prodigy Francis (Will Tudor) Bacon left "An Enterlude Intituled Like Wil to Like quod the Deuel to the Colier, very godly and full of pleasant mirth. Wherin is declared not onely what punishment followeth those that wil rather followe licentious liuing, then to esteem & followe good councel: and what great benefits and commodities they receiue that apply them unto vertuous liuing and good exercises." as his introduction to the literary world forever? I accept, based on the evidence presented. On this one Bacon offering, I feel like we need to also acknowledge Sir Nicholas and Lady Anne on this production. Seriously, no matter how much they allowed the very young Francis to create, they as the proud adopted parents they were had to be involved on every paragraph, coaching and teaching, impossible to leave out their own thoughts that Will was living as he was using his ink pen to write. 🙂 2 T A A A A A A A A A A A T 157 www.Light-of-Truth.com 287 <-- 1 8 8 1 1 O 1 1 8 8 1 --> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric Roberts Posted April 30 Share Posted April 30 On 4/28/2023 at 7:06 PM, A Phoenix said: Early Education From his earliest years Lady Bacon personally supervised Francis’s early education carefully selecting his tutors and placing great emphasis on his instruction in radical Protestant theology with strong leanings towards Puritanism. Their earliest known tutor at Gorhambury was a chaplain named John Walsall, a graduate of Christ Church, Oxford. He acted as the tutor of the Francis and Anthony Bacons from 1566 to at least 1569. #FrancisBacon #Shakespeare #ShakespeareAuthorship #LikeWillToLike Paper: https://www.academia.edu/45176854/The_play_Like_Will_to_Like_written_by_Francis_Bacon_when_he_was_only_seven_years_old_one_of_three_works_written_in_the_name_of_Ulpian_Fulwell_and_their_links_to_the_Shakespeare_Plays Video: https://youtu.be/y42VMzO0ztY JSTOR article: Young Francis Bacon's Tutor Virgil B. Heltzel https://www.jstor.org/stable/2908546 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric Roberts Posted April 30 Share Posted April 30 On 4/28/2023 at 7:09 PM, A Phoenix said: Classical Training Francis also received from Lady Bacon a rigorous teaching in classical and modern languages and a serious training in classical texts. In particular Francis was raised on the favourite authors Sir Nicholas and Lady Bacon’s, namely Seneca and Cicero, that they used to read to each other, as well as Francis. In a poem written for his wife Lady Anne in a time of his ‘great sickenes’ Sir Nicholas reveals how he took great comfort in her reading to him from her ‘Tullye’ (Cicero) and ‘my Senecke’: #FrancisBacon #Shakespeare #ShakespeareAuthorship #LikeWillToLike Paper: https://www.academia.edu/45176854/The_play_Like_Will_to_Like_written_by_Francis_Bacon_when_he_was_only_seven_years_old_one_of_three_works_written_in_the_name_of_Ulpian_Fulwell_and_their_links_to_the_Shakespeare_Plays Video: https://youtu.be/y42VMzO0ztY Best resolution I could find. Painted in the year of his death. Artist unknown. https://www.npg.org.uk/collections/search/portrait/mw00267/Sir-Nicholas-Bacon?rNo=8&search=ap&subj=194;Crests+and+Coats+of+Arms 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Light-of-Truth Posted April 30 Share Posted April 30 57 minutes ago, Eric Roberts said: Best resolution I could find. Painted in the year of his death. Artist unknown. https://www.npg.org.uk/collections/search/portrait/mw00267/Sir-Nicholas-Bacon?rNo=8&search=ap&subj=194;Crests+and+Coats+of+Arms Sweeet! 4 T A A A A A A A A A A A T 157 www.Light-of-Truth.com 287 <-- 1 8 8 1 1 O 1 1 8 8 1 --> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric Roberts Posted April 30 Share Posted April 30 14 hours ago, A Phoenix said: 'The gallery walls at Gorhambury were adorned with Latin verses or sententiae chiefly drawn from Seneca and Cicero grouped together under twenty-two subjects or headings to prompt deep meditation and ‘used to teach and guide, acting as a mnemonic system of precepts’ which a young Francis Bacon contemplated and looked upon throughout his formative years preserved in a manuscript produced by Sir Nicholas Bacon for Jane, Lady Lumley (British Library Royal 17A XXIII)' [Elizabeth McCutcheon in Sir Nicholas Bacon’s Great House Sententiae The Latin text along with the first English translation (published by the University of Hawaii and the Sir Francis Bacon Foundation and Library Claremont, California with English Literary Renaissance, 1977 and Peter Dawkins, The Francis Bacon Research Trust Journal, Series I Volume 3: Dedication To The Light (published by The Francis Bacon Research Trust, 1984), pp. 84-90, at p. 84] Francis would put to good use the radical Protestant godly upbringing and classical education received at the hands of his mother Lady Bacon and her love of Cicero in the play Like Will To Like coupled with his own prodigious intellect and wit which would over time flower into him becoming the greatest playwright the world has ever seen. Paper: https://www.academia.edu/45176854/The_play_Like_Will_to_Like_written_by_Francis_Bacon_when_he_was_only_seven_years_old_one_of_three_works_written_in_the_name_of_Ulpian_Fulwell_and_their_links_to_the_Shakespeare_Plays Video: https://youtu.be/y42VMzO0ztY Hi A. Phoenix. Thanks so much for the reference to Sir Nicholas Bacon’s Great House Sententiae. https://archive.org/details/sirnicholasbacon0000baco/page/n1/mode/2up?view=theater Not surprising that the translations already exist, given their importance. I wonder if any other "great houses" of the period had long galleries similarly lined with wise quotations from ancient texts. What a wonderful way to learn Latin, understand ancient wisdom and improve one's memory, simply by reading the architecture. Charlotte Grimston's plan of Gorhambury shows that the gallery was "cloistered", i.e. looked out onto the gardens along one side. 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A Phoenix Posted April 30 Author Share Posted April 30 Hi Eric, Peter Dawkins also publishes translations of the Latin verses/sententiae based upon those by Dr Elizabeth McCutcheon inscribed on the walls of the Long Gallery at Gorhambury (see Dedication to the Light (Francis Bacon Research Trust, 1984), pp. 84-90). 4 https://aphoenix1.academia.edu/ https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCrY7wzlXnZiT1Urwx7jP6fQ/videos Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric Roberts Posted April 30 Share Posted April 30 1 hour ago, A Phoenix said: Hi Eric, Peter Dawkins also publishes translations of the Latin verses/sententiae based upon those by Dr Elizabeth McCutcheon inscribed on the walls of the Long Gallery at Gorhambury (see Dedication to the Light (Francis Bacon Research Trust, 1984), pp. 84-90). Sadly, "Dedication to the Light" has become extremely rare and hard to find. Even the FBRT weren't able to supply me with a copy. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kate Posted April 30 Share Posted April 30 On 4/27/2023 at 8:10 PM, Allisnum2er said: Good evening A Phoenix, I've just noticed an interesting difference between the Title-page of the 1st edition and the one of the 1587 edition, a difference that could be a clue. For one / For another Notice the characters that looks like a C. Right below "Made by Vlpian Fulwel" they can be mistaken for Cs and inverted Cs, concealing the number 33, thrice. And just for fun ... 3 x 33 + 3(the One before "An Interlude") = 102 Sorry AP, not meaning to interrupt your thread. Just wanted to pop up to say I scrolled past this in Bacon's Sylva .. https://archive.org/details/1627sylvasylvarv00baco Did anyone ever notice that Philadelphia, where the Declaration of Independence was signed, is in Penn - sylva -nia. Apparently it is named after William Penn though, meaning Penn's woodland 3 1 "For nothing is born without unity or without the point." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A Phoenix Posted April 30 Author Share Posted April 30 Paper: https://www.academia.edu/45176854/The_play_Like_Will_to_Like_written_by_Francis_Bacon_when_he_was_only_seven_years_old_one_of_three_works_written_in_the_name_of_Ulpian_Fulwell_and_their_links_to_the_Shakespeare_Plays Video: https://youtu.be/y42VMzO0ztY 2 https://aphoenix1.academia.edu/ https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCrY7wzlXnZiT1Urwx7jP6fQ/videos Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A Phoenix Posted April 30 Author Share Posted April 30 The other two remaining letters in the first six lines of the prologue to Like Will to Like, i.e., the W and S numerically represent the equivalent of 21 and 18: 21+18=39 F. Bacon in simple cipher. The first line (not including ‘de amicitia’ which is printed in different type) comprises 39 letters again F. Bacon in simple cipher and the last line 33 letters Bacon in simple cipher, which is the sixth line: 33+6=39 F. Bacon in simple cipher. The six line paragraph contains 56 words Fr. Bacon in simple cipher. The whole page itself comprises the header ‘The Prologue’ and 32 full lines of text: 1+32=33 Bacon in simple cipher. When this is added to the 3 letters in the signature (B.ii) and the 3 letters in the tail-word (And): 33+3+3=39 F. Bacon in simple cipher. Paper: https://www.academia.edu/45176854/The_play_Like_Will_to_Like_written_by_Francis_Bacon_when_he_was_only_seven_years_old_one_of_three_works_written_in_the_name_of_Ulpian_Fulwell_and_their_links_to_the_Shakespeare_Plays Video: https://youtu.be/y42VMzO0ztY 2 https://aphoenix1.academia.edu/ https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCrY7wzlXnZiT1Urwx7jP6fQ/videos Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A Phoenix Posted April 30 Author Share Posted April 30 Its instructive title page indicates that the fifteen parts can be played by five actors: Five may easely play this enterlude. The names of the players: Paper: https://www.academia.edu/45176854/The_play_Like_Will_to_Like_written_by_Francis_Bacon_when_he_was_only_seven_years_old_one_of_three_works_written_in_the_name_of_Ulpian_Fulwell_and_their_links_to_the_Shakespeare_Plays Video: https://youtu.be/y42VMzO0ztY 2 https://aphoenix1.academia.edu/ https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCrY7wzlXnZiT1Urwx7jP6fQ/videos Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A Phoenix Posted April 30 Author Share Posted April 30 The prologues sets out how like are attracted to like the good to the virtuous and the evil to the vicious, and how in this play we will see in a mirror, the advancement of virtue and the decay of vice. The lives of ruffians and roisters end badly on the end of a hangman’s rope whereas a virtuous life attracts honour and dignity, and ultimately, everlasting eternity. The prologue concludes with, in capital letters FINIS, and its first stage direction (comprising a total of 33 words Bacon in simple cipher) as follows: FINIS. Heer entreth Nichol Newfangle the vice laughing, and hath a knaue of clubs in his hand which assooon as he speaketh: he offreth vnto one of the men or boyes standing by. Paper: https://www.academia.edu/45176854/The_play_Like_Will_to_Like_written_by_Francis_Bacon_when_he_was_only_seven_years_old_one_of_three_works_written_in_the_name_of_Ulpian_Fulwell_and_their_links_to_the_Shakespeare_Plays Video: https://youtu.be/y42VMzO0ztY 1 1 https://aphoenix1.academia.edu/ https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCrY7wzlXnZiT1Urwx7jP6fQ/videos Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A Phoenix Posted May 1 Author Share Posted May 1 Nichol Newfangle Holding centre stage the master of evil and vice announces to the audience that he goes by the name Nichol Newfangle and delivers a speech. Before he was even born Newfangle the Vice recalls he made a journey to hell where he was bound before his nativity to ‘Lucifer himself’ who ‘all kinds of science he taught unto me’. The Devil enters the stage and Newfangle addresses him as ‘my Godfather Lucifer’ followed by a stage direction (‘This name Lucifer, must be written on his back and on his brest’) with Lucifer in turn addressing him as ‘mine own boy’. Lucifer tells Newfangle not to be afraid but in response he reminds Lucifer that he cares not in his own mind who he kills and maims including having violence inflicted upon himself. Paper: https://www.academia.edu/45176854/The_play_Like_Will_to_Like_written_by_Francis_Bacon_when_he_was_only_seven_years_old_one_of_three_works_written_in_the_name_of_Ulpian_Fulwell_and_their_links_to_the_Shakespeare_Plays Video: https://youtu.be/y42VMzO0ztY 2 https://aphoenix1.academia.edu/ https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCrY7wzlXnZiT1Urwx7jP6fQ/videos Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A Phoenix Posted May 1 Author Share Posted May 1 Paper: https://www.academia.edu/45176854/The_play_Like_Will_to_Like_written_by_Francis_Bacon_when_he_was_only_seven_years_old_one_of_three_works_written_in_the_name_of_Ulpian_Fulwell_and_their_links_to_the_Shakespeare_Plays Video: https://youtu.be/y42VMzO0ztY 2 https://aphoenix1.academia.edu/ https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCrY7wzlXnZiT1Urwx7jP6fQ/videos Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A Phoenix Posted May 1 Author Share Posted May 1 With his instructions from Lucifer his godson Nichole Newfangle the Vice carries out his tasks by manipulating and deceiving with false promises three pairs of characters: Ralph Roister and Tom Tosspot, Hance and Philip Fleming, and Cuthbert Cutpurse and Piece Pickpurse. Paper: https://www.academia.edu/45176854/The_play_Like_Will_to_Like_written_by_Francis_Bacon_when_he_was_only_seven_years_old_one_of_three_works_written_in_the_name_of_Ulpian_Fulwell_and_their_links_to_the_Shakespeare_Plays Video: https://youtu.be/y42VMzO0ztY 2 https://aphoenix1.academia.edu/ https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCrY7wzlXnZiT1Urwx7jP6fQ/videos Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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