Ben Jonson - To the memory of my beloued

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Thanks to Allisnum3er and his "Last Portrait" post, I went to bed last night thinking about the "Sweet swan of Avon." All night in various states of wake and dream, the name Francis Bacon kept coming up with the Sweet swan in my mind.

I've never personally looked closely at the Ben Jonson poem to see what is to be seen, strangely enough. It is obviously a very important piece of the puzzle. I know some work has been done before and I have seen references to a few clues, so likely what I found this morning is old news. But thought I'd share real quick a few little things that stand out to me on a first look.

First three lines:

To draw no envy (Shakespeare) on thy name,
Am I thus ample to thy Booke, and Fame;
While I confesse thy writings to be such,

Of course we see "name" the F B A con, F Bacon.

Also there is a W T I with the T being the decorative woodcut. So possible hint at William Tudor I and the woodcut as the T for Tudor is highly appropriate.

There are 100 characters in those three lines. 100 is Simple cipher for Francis Bacon and the Kaye cipher of Tudor.

Ok, now Line 33 of this poem:

For names; but call forth thund'ring Aeschilus,

We see "names", then the first five letters of the first two words, first letters of the 3rd and 4th words provide "Fr Bacon".

The line contains all of the letters for "Francis Bacon" and "Tudor" if you care to look, to emphasize the plural with "names":

For names; but call forth thund'ring Aeschilus,

TUDOR is 74 Simple cipher. Let's go to Line 74:

How about that, Line 74 mentions "Eliza" who is a Tudor.

Then these two lines:

But stay, I see thee in the Hemisphere
   Advanc'd, and made a Constellation there !

Yet another Bacon.

Curious the "Hemisphere" is not italicized. Hemisphere is 102 Simple cipher.

I've mentioned before how ONE HUNDRED TWO is 157 Simple and 287 Kaye ciphers and appears to help Seal the Sonnets Pyramid. I have also suggested the two Seal numbers 157 and 287 both being "A"s may represent the Light and Dark A.

What is a Hemisphere? It is half the globe, with one half in the Dark and the other in the Light.

Those two lines have 67 characters, the Simple cipher of Francis.

Ben goes onto call Shakespeare the "Starre of POETS" which has the Reverse cipher of 157.

OK, now we all know this is just scraping the surface here. It is my first look, for now. I have an actual work project to get into now, but wanted to get up before I start.

 

 

Edited February 23, 2022 by Light-of-Truth

[Allisnum2er]

That's a master stroke, Rob ! And it proves that the old saying : "I will sleep on it"  is correct ! 🙂

Well done with the lines 33 and 74.

Talking about the number 102, thanks to you I just made the connection with "Discoveries" ( Ben Jonson's Workes (1640) ) .

Now, I understand why Bacon is mentionned on page 102.

 https://archive.org/details/workesofbenjamin00jons/page/n653/mode/2up?ref=ol&view=theater

Moreover, I believe that right in the beginning of Ben Jonson's Poem we can read from right to left " I Am TWO" 

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Moreover, I believe that right in the beginning of Ben Jonson's Poem we can read from right to left " I Am TWO" 

Just since this forum I AM seeing that TWO is more important than I realized. Mather Walker mentioned TWO, I saw and read many years ago. Other sources recently.

How many times in the past weeks does it come up. Plus the video from Peter Amundsen with the The Tempest.

A. Phoenix with images where TWO is obvious, you and your brilliant work, it appears to be part of the message left by Bacon.

TWO is at least Bacon and Tudor, THREE is Bacon, Shakespeare, and Tudor.

Three themes in one, which wondrous scope affords.
   Fair, kind, and true, have often lived alone,
   Which three till now, never kept seat in one.

All three, Fair being Royal, Tudor, then Kind being Shakespeare the Poet, and True being Bacon as Bacon, Truth.

Rights?

LOL! Too much fun!

[Allisnum2er]

ROB ! I JUST FIGURED IT OUT ! IT'S HUGE !!!!

 

                            Look how the father's face

Lives in his issue, even so the race

Of Shakespeare's mind and manners brightly shines

In his well-turned, and true-filed lines;

In each of which he seems to shake a lance,

As brandish'd at the eyes of ignorance.

Sweet Swan of Avon! 

 

WE JUST HAD TO SHAKE THE SPEARE AT THE EYES OF IGNORANCE TO REVEAL THE TRUTH !

I, FRA. BACONI

Edited February 23, 2022 by Allisnum2er

[Allisnum2er]

To much fun Indeed ! 🙂 

 

I CONFESSE, I AM TUDOR !

(Thanks to the VV, the double You 😉)

[Allisnum2er]

Addendum :

I believe that "While" can be seen like a way to hide "WILL"

Then the complete message is :

I CONFESSE, I AM WILL TUDOR !

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Funny thing about Ben Jonson's poem.

In the Bacon anagrams/acrostics, both "I" and "me" come up. Repeatedly.

I have a visual of TWO friends; Bacon and Jonson, (similar to me and Lawrence), sitting at their table with pen and paper (they did not have a PC), ciphering, writing, laughing, maybe even giggling at what they were creating for the 1623 Folio. So, do some of the hints suggest "I" or "me"?

Maybe?

We know they had beer back then. Plus they had other things that tickle the mind.

Ben and Francis, a little "lit up", having a blast, playing with their words. Making everything perfect to tell a story.

Ben: My beloved.

Bacon: I am Bacon, Tudor.

The TWO of them, weaving, writing, counting, bouncing ideas around, having one more beer...

😉

 

[Allisnum2er]

11 minutes ago, Light-of-Truth said:

 

The TWO of them, weaving, writing, counting, bouncing ideas around, having one more beer...

😉

 

Cheers, Rob !🙂

 Falstaff mit Kanne  - Eduard van Grützner

(Notice the Conie on the Background ! 🙂 )

Edited February 23, 2022 by Allisnum2er

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My response to that image:

😉

Bacon, waving good-bye, for now. "See ya!!"

LOL