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Nicholas: Oh my, I just heard Robert's wife was found dead with a broken neck and head injuries at the bottom of their stairs.

Lady Anne: No, he did not! Ugh!

Nicholas: I'm afraid so.

Lady Anne: We better get used to little Will staying with us a while, and he may grow up as Francis if Liz can't marry him.

 

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The 1560-61 date change can make things confusing, but I believe Amy died in Sept. 1560 and, the record states, at least, that Francis was baptized in 1561. Correct me if I'm wrong. Also, I don't think we ought to state as a fact that Dudley killed his wife or had her murdered. That is not a matter of record but something that is being inferred. It may or may not be true.  Please, let us be careful to be our own devil's advocates in this forum and not be afraid to challenge one another on the facts, lest we fall into error like those we would challenge on bigger questions for their lack of critical thinking and easy following of the crowd. Also, questioning can lead to finding out new things. I just tried to do a search for the date of Amy's death and found this treasure trove of documents. https://castalianstream.medium.com/8-rules-for-unhappiness-from-the-philosopher-plutarch-f69f7a9506e9.

I would say independent thinking should be the hallmark of one who would call himself a "Baconian." By that I mean more than just someone who believes Bacon wrote Shakespeare, but in the way the term used to be used, for someone who is a student of Bacon's life and teachings in some way, wishing to learn from his insights and wisdom on how to live a better life, how to make the world a better place. Yes, he tried to help us find the tools to think better and improve the lot of humankind. He cared about the truth but knew it was too dangerous to state certain things outright. Even in poetry it was dangerous to say certain things without carefully veiling them. To say someone committed murder when the facts do not prove him guilty beyond a reasonable doubt would be considered defamation if Dudley were alive. I'm kind of fond of Robert Dudley myself. He was not a complete villain. He did a lot of good in his life. I wish I had time to research him more. There are always two sides to a story, at least. I see the truth as a bit of a multi-faceted prism.     

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1 hour ago, Christie Waldman said:

Please, let us be careful to be our own devil's advocates in this forum and not be afraid to challenge one another on the facts, lest we fall into error like those we would challenge on bigger questions for their lack of critical thinking and easy following of the crowd. Also, questioning can lead to finding out new things.

I suggest being challenged among ourselves will strengthen the forum's purpose. That may go especially for myself who has so many ideas that I like to share. But all of us should welcome dialog and enjoy the opportunities to defend what we believe and also be open to new ideas. Strats and Oxies would love to destroy our theories to support theirs, so the better prepared we are as Baconians and the stronger our research the better for us. Bacon went into court prepared to present his case, I assume. 😉

Christie, you with your legal background and perspective along with your vast knowledge about Bacon help keep my feet on the ground. CJ (RoyalCraftiness) enjoys challenging my beliefs and I enjoy going back and forth with him. I learn from everybody here.

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10 hours ago, A Phoenix said:

From the day he was born with all its secrecy and implications his life was filled with the kind of intense drama that truly belongs in an epic film about the Great One or of course one of his Shakespeare plays. Could you just imagine a Shakespeare play by the Great One telling the true concealed story of the life and reign of Elizabeth. It would be absolutely spellbinding and riveting. 

I have fantasized about a major motion picture about Bacon since I started learning about him 25 years ago. Long ago I had in my mind I'd write it!

Lawrence and I kicked around ideas as well. BACON would be bigger than The Ten Commandments with Charlton Hesston!

The Oxies made a movie that our Freemason Baconian friend Richard Wagner reviewed, the movie Anonymous:

"The one premise that rings true in the movie Anonymous is that the man we all thought to be the true author of the Shakespearean works was NOT who we thought he was—on that issue the movie is correct, beyond that, everything else is pure fiction."

I'm sad the review and website is not still up. The movie was popular among Oxfarties, Richard's review was our satisfying reply.

Shakespeare in Love was big at first, but it was a disappointment. Barely a better IMDB score than the Oxigas bomb.

So far, NO movie about Bacon. OMG!

I think Disney should do it! I LOVE the Mouse in Florida! Good energy standing up to the Anti-Mouse, as prophesied 400 years ago.

How to Draw an Easy Mickey Mouse Face - Really Easy Drawing ...

I will say Netflix is stepping up in my mind. And seriously could Bacon's life fit into a single two hour movie?

A Bacon series could go on longer than Sopranos or Breaking Bad with a better message! Game of Thrones has nothing on Francis Bacon's story.

I have liked Patrick Wilson as Bacon for many years. The video team I worked with made this commercial a long time ago. Note that the first words heard are "To be or not to be" which adds up to 157 Simple cipher:

Will Patrick be Bacon if a Bacon movie ever emerges? If he is not someday, you can't blame me as I have been hounding him a long time to be Bacon. LOL

It would take a kid who can grow on camera a few years during the early and college years, and a young adult who can age as the grownup Bacon as Shakespeare's works came together.

What bout Chase Stokes? A friend told me he is the number 1 guy on Netflix today. I have a business connection, from before he got famous anyway. LOL

https://www.imdb.com/name/nm6795924/

"Seeking treasures..."? He plays "John B"? huh?

They keep saying "John B". First time I thought they were saying "John Dee." LOL

 

Bacon's late life is another movie or multiple seasons as well. Every day I wake up to another episode of Season 33...

A. Phoenix, I nominate you (your team) to make this happen. Its a natural result of the years of work you have invested already. If anyone will ever do it, it is you.

Can we help in any way????

I'm on board 100%! Lets do it! 🙂

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Follow up on above.

My pick for Bacon's mother, Elizabeth I?

Julie Garner.

https://www.imdb.com/name/nm3400186/?ref_=nm_mv_close

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She played a hillbilly hick who was no fool in Ozarks. Its easy to Love and Hate her both at the same time.

I think I heard she faked the Ozark accent. She could do English, but with a larger audience in Bacon's New Atlantis, even a hint of English will be just fine. 😉

 

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 Remarkable Letter from De Quadra

A truly remarkable letter from Spanish Ambassador De Quadra written to the Duchess of Parma dated 11 September 1560 provides an account of a conversation with Cecil which took place prior to the death of Lady Amy Dudley confirming Cecil was aware that Dudley was intending to murder his wife, with whom Elizabeth conspired, and was complicit in the plot:  

#ElizabethI #VirginQueen #RobertDudley #FrancisBacon #RobertDevereux #PregnancyPortrait #HamptonCourt #RoyStrong #FrancisCarr 

Paper https://www.academia.edu/45006558/The_Pregnancy_Portrait_of_Queen_Elizabeth_I_and_The_Secret_Royal_Birth_of_Francis_Bacon_Concealed_Author_of_the_Shakespeare_Works

Part 1 https://youtu.be/AFSxRYGxgjk

Part 2 https://youtu.be/HWpuy13KHiA

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 The Secret Marriage

With the death of Lady Amy Robsart Dudley, the way was open for Elizabeth and Dudley to marry in private, meaning that the child the pregnant queen was carrying would be born in wedlock. With the national scandal surrounding the circumstances of Lady Amy’s death reverberating round the kingdom and the royal courts of Europe it was personally and politically impossible for Queen Elizabeth to publicly marry the notorious widower and suspected murderer of his first wife, who was widely hated by the nobility and the people. The precise date of their private marriage is uncertain but it most likely occurred shortly after the death of Lady Amy possibly as Alfred Dodd presents it within a few days:    

#ElizabethI #VirginQueen #RobertDudley #FrancisBacon #RobertDevereux #PregnancyPortrait #HamptonCourt #RoyStrong #FrancisCarr 

Paper https://www.academia.edu/45006558/The_Pregnancy_Portrait_of_Queen_Elizabeth_I_and_The_Secret_Royal_Birth_of_Francis_Bacon_Concealed_Author_of_the_Shakespeare_Works

Part 1 https://youtu.be/AFSxRYGxgjk

Part 2 https://youtu.be/HWpuy13KHiA

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According to Bacon’s word cipher the marriage of Queen Elizabeth to Robert Dudley was told to him by his foster-mother Lady Anne Bacon as related below:

#ElizabethI #VirginQueen #RobertDudley #FrancisBacon #RobertDevereux #PregnancyPortrait #HamptonCourt #RoyStrong #FrancisCarr 

Paper https://www.academia.edu/45006558/The_Pregnancy_Portrait_of_Queen_Elizabeth_I_and_The_Secret_Royal_Birth_of_Francis_Bacon_Concealed_Author_of_the_Shakespeare_Works

Part 1 https://youtu.be/AFSxRYGxgjk

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The secret private marriage of Elizabeth and Dudley deciphered above by Dr Owen is revisited by Bacon’s in his bi-literal cipher in Advancement of Learning as deciphered by Elizabeth Wells Gallup:

#ElizabethI #VirginQueen #RobertDudley #FrancisBacon #RobertDevereux #PregnancyPortrait #HamptonCourt #RoyStrong #FrancisCarr 

Paper https://www.academia.edu/45006558/The_Pregnancy_Portrait_of_Queen_Elizabeth_I_and_The_Secret_Royal_Birth_of_Francis_Bacon_Concealed_Author_of_the_Shakespeare_Works

Part 1 https://youtu.be/AFSxRYGxgjk

Part 2 https://youtu.be/HWpuy13KHiA

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5 hours ago, A Phoenix said:

 The Secret Marriage

With the death of Lady Amy Robsart Dudley, the way was open for Elizabeth and Dudley to marry in private, meaning that the child the pregnant queen was carrying would be born in wedlock. With the national scandal surrounding the circumstances of Lady Amy’s death reverberating round the kingdom and the royal courts of Europe it was personally and politically impossible for Queen Elizabeth to publicly marry the notorious widower and suspected murderer of his first wife, who was widely hated by the nobility and the people. The precise date of their private marriage is uncertain but it most likely occurred shortly after the death of Lady Amy possibly as Alfred Dodd presents it within a few days:    

#ElizabethI #VirginQueen #RobertDudley #FrancisBacon #RobertDevereux #PregnancyPortrait #HamptonCourt #RoyStrong #FrancisCarr 

Paper https://www.academia.edu/45006558/The_Pregnancy_Portrait_of_Queen_Elizabeth_I_and_The_Secret_Royal_Birth_of_Francis_Bacon_Concealed_Author_of_the_Shakespeare_Works

Part 1 https://youtu.be/AFSxRYGxgjk

Part 2 https://youtu.be/HWpuy13KHiA

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The News Spreads Throughout The Courts of Europe

The secret private marriage of Elizabeth and Dudley was of course known to the Earl of Pembroke, those who attended it, Sir Nicholas and Lady Bacon, and doubtless their brother-in-law, Principal Secretary of State William Cecil and other senior members of the Privy Council, her Gentlewomen of the Privy Chamber and some members of the royal household, and most likely a few of Dudley’s trusted servants. Knowledge, news and rumour of it inevitably began to be whispered in and around the court and it soon reached the ears of foreign ambassadors and diplomats who relayed what they knew and had heard back to the respective royal masters and other senior dignitaries throughout the courts of Europe.

On 12 November 1560 De Quadra wrote to his royal master Phillip II telling him:

#ElizabethI #VirginQueen #RobertDudley #FrancisBacon #RobertDevereux #PregnancyPortrait #HamptonCourt #RoyStrong #FrancisCarr 

Paper https://www.academia.edu/45006558/The_Pregnancy_Portrait_of_Queen_Elizabeth_I_and_The_Secret_Royal_Birth_of_Francis_Bacon_Concealed_Author_of_the_Shakespeare_Works

Part 1 https://youtu.be/AFSxRYGxgjk

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The Examination of De Quadra

Some of De Quadra’s letters later came to the attention of Elizabeth and her ministers and the Spanish Ambassador was afterwards summoned before the Lord Chamberlain and Dr Wotton to answer a number of specific charges made against him. The sixth of these, and the one which one is of interest to us, is recorded in the minutes as follows: 

6. That I had written to His Majesty [Philip II] that the Queen had been secretly married to Lord Robert at the earl of Pembroke’s house. 

Answer: What I wrote to his Majesty about this was the same as I said to the Queen, which was that people were saying all over the town that the wedding had taken place, which at the time neither surprised nor annoyed her….

[Martin S Hume, ed., Calendar Of Letters And State Papers Relating To English   
 Affairs, Preserved Principally In The Archives Of Simancas. Vol.1. Elizabeth 
 1558-1567 (London: printed for Her Majesty’s Stationery Office, 1892), p. 248.] 

#ElizabethI #VirginQueen #RobertDudley #FrancisBacon #RobertDevereux #PregnancyPortrait #HamptonCourt #RoyStrong #FrancisCarr 

Paper https://www.academia.edu/45006558/The_Pregnancy_Portrait_of_Queen_Elizabeth_I_and_The_Secret_Royal_Birth_of_Francis_Bacon_Concealed_Author_of_the_Shakespeare_Works

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Answer: What I wrote to his Majesty about this was the same as I said to the Queen, which was that people were saying all over the town that the wedding had taken place, which at the time neither surprised nor annoyed her….

I bet she was wondering who leaked the news!

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The French Court

News of events soon reached the French court in Paris where the murder of Lady Amy Robsart Dudley at the hands of those acting on behalf of her husband Dudley (this is how it was seen and understood in the courts of Europe) and the marriage of Queen Elizabeth and her lover was on everybody’s lips. The English Ambassador to France Sir Nicholas Throckmorton was well acquainted with the news of Lady Amy Dudley’s death, and rumours of a secret marriage between Elizabeth and Dudley. He wrote to Cecil on 28 October 1560:

#ElizabethI #VirginQueen #RobertDudley #FrancisBacon #RobertDevereux #PregnancyPortrait #HamptonCourt #RoyStrong #FrancisCarr 

Paper https://www.academia.edu/45006558/The_Pregnancy_Portrait_of_Queen_Elizabeth_I_and_The_Secret_Royal_Birth_of_Francis_Bacon_Concealed_Author_of_the_Shakespeare_Works

Part 1 https://youtu.be/AFSxRYGxgjk

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The Talk of Europe

In a letter to Cecil dated 31 December 1560 he indicates that he knows the rumours of a marriage between Elizabeth and Dudley are true and that it is the talk of all Europe:

#ElizabethI #VirginQueen #RobertDudley #FrancisBacon #RobertDevereux #PregnancyPortrait #HamptonCourt #RoyStrong #FrancisCarr 

Paper https://www.academia.edu/45006558/The_Pregnancy_Portrait_of_Queen_Elizabeth_I_and_The_Secret_Royal_Birth_of_Francis_Bacon_Concealed_Author_of_the_Shakespeare_Works

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In the entry for Robert Dudley in the Dictionary of National Biography Sir Sidney Lee writes:

#ElizabethI #VirginQueen #RobertDudley #FrancisBacon #RobertDevereux #PregnancyPortrait #HamptonCourt #RoyStrong #FrancisCarr 

Paper https://www.academia.edu/45006558/The_Pregnancy_Portrait_of_Queen_Elizabeth_I_and_The_Secret_Royal_Birth_of_Francis_Bacon_Concealed_Author_of_the_Shakespeare_Works

Part 1 https://youtu.be/AFSxRYGxgjk

Part 2 https://youtu.be/HWpuy13KHiA

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Catholic Support for the Marriage  

One possibility for making a public marriage more acceptable was to garner the support of Philip II of Spain with whom Dudley had a relationship stretching back to the reign of Philip’s English wife Mary I of England. He thought by enlisting Catholic Spanish help to publicly legitimise his private union with Elizabeth it might persuade her to take the final step and openly make him Prince Consort or King of England. On 22 January 1561 De Quadra wrote to his royal master Philip II to inform him that Sir Henry Sidney (apparently speaking for his brother-in-law Dudley and Elizabeth) had asked him whether Philip would provide support for a public marriage if Elizabeth and Dudley promised to restore the Roman Catholic religion in England:

#ElizabethI #VirginQueen #RobertDudley #FrancisBacon #RobertDevereux #PregnancyPortrait #HamptonCourt #RoyStrong #FrancisCarr 

Paper https://www.academia.edu/45006558/The_Pregnancy_Portrait_of_Queen_Elizabeth_I_and_The_Secret_Royal_Birth_of_Francis_Bacon_Concealed_Author_of_the_Shakespeare_Works

Part 1 https://youtu.be/AFSxRYGxgjk

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Dr William Rawley

On the very day De Quadra wrote to Philip II in a letter which reports that it is being said by some that Queen Elizabeth ‘is a mother already’ she gave birth on 22 January 1561 (or as some have maintained shortly or a few days before) to a boy, an event and whose true identity, has remained an official state secret for five centuries; though it is a secret his earliest biographer one Pierre Ambiose, and his first English biographer Dr William Rawley, enigmatically reveal to us.

The Church of England clergymen Dr William Rawley knew the truth and secrets of the concealed and hidden life of who the world and posterity knows as Francis Bacon, including that of his secret royal birth and concealed authorship of the Shakespeare works.   

From at least 1616 onwards Dr Rawley served Francis Bacon as his private secretary and chaplain right up until his death a decade later only three years after Bacon had dedicated the First Folio of the Shakespeare Works to the third Earl of Pembroke and the Earl of Montgomery whose grandfather William, first Earl of Pembroke witnessed the marriage of Elizabeth and Dudley.   

In his own words he served as ‘Amanuensis, or dayly instrument’ to Bacon assisting him ‘in the composing, of his Works, for many years together; Especially, in his writing Time; I conceived, that no Man, could pretend a better Interest, or Claim, to the ordering of them, after his Death, then my self.’ He was also a witness to Bacon’s last will and testament and entrusted with a large number of Bacon’s manuscripts.

In the months following Bacon’s supposed death to the world Dr Rawley compiled and published a commemorative work in his honour entitled Memoriae honoratissimi Domini Francisci, Baronis de Verulumio, vice-comitis Sancti Albani sacrum known as the Manes Verulamiani. This rare volume contains thirty-two Latin verses in praise of Bacon with an introduction by Rawley whose contents Bacon’s biographers and editors have suppressed to the present day. Several of these verses portray Bacon as a secret supreme poet and dramatist-of comedies and tragedies-under the pseudonym, Shakespeare. As revealing as these remarkable verses already are, in his address to the reader, Dr Rawley, plainly states that he had deliberately withheld many from public view: 

#ElizabethI #VirginQueen #RobertDudley #FrancisBacon #RobertDevereux #PregnancyPortrait #HamptonCourt #RoyStrong #FrancisCarr 

Paper https://www.academia.edu/45006558/The_Pregnancy_Portrait_of_Queen_Elizabeth_I_and_The_Secret_Royal_Birth_of_Francis_Bacon_Concealed_Author_of_the_Shakespeare_Works

Part 1 https://youtu.be/AFSxRYGxgjk

Part 2 https://youtu.be/HWpuy13KHiA

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