Kate Posted September 9 Share Posted September 9 If any sign was needed from the sky here it is. Comet Nishimura C/2023 P1 is putting in an appearance. Discovered on 12 Aug 2023 with an observation arc of seven months, the last time it would have been seen was around 434 years ago (I'm not sure how precise NASA can be with comets) However, most news outlets are reporting it as "for the first time in 400 years". It is obviously 400 years since the printing of the First Folio, and ultimately there are no coincidences in life. 434 years ago was 1589. Look back and see what you can find. It's currently in the constellation (not sign) Leo, moving to Virgo by 17 Sep. I need to check it exactly but brought down to the ecliptic that should put it in the astro sign of Virgo - Virgin Queen/Virginia moving to Libra. Comets blaze forth the death of Princes (more precisely "When beggars die, there are no comets seen; The heavens themselves blaze forth the death of princes")is a bit of a misconception these days , but they are definitely still seen as (correlate to) heralds of something. This is a link to check what was happening with QE1 in parliament at that time http://www.historyofparliamentonline.org/volume/1558-1603/parliament/1589 Picture credit: StarWalk2 app 4 "For nothing is born without unity or without the point." amazon.com/dp/B0CLDKDPY8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allisnum2er Posted September 9 Share Posted September 9 36 minutes ago, Kate said: If any sign was needed from the sky here it is. Comet Nishimura C/2023 P1 is putting in an appearance. Discovered on 12 Aug 2023 with an observation arc of seven months, the last time it would have been seen was around 434 years ago (I'm not sure how precise NASA can be with comets) However, most news outlets are reporting it as "for the first time in 400 years". It is obviously 400 years since the printing of the First Folio, and ultimately there are no coincidences in life. 434 years ago was 1589. Look back and see what you can find. It's currently in the constellation (not sign) Leo, moving to Virgo by 17 Sep. I need to check it exactly but brought down to the ecliptic that should put it in the astro sign of Virgo - Virgin Queen/Virginia moving to Libra. Comets blaze forth the death of Princes (more precisely "When beggars die, there are no comets seen; The heavens themselves blaze forth the death of princes")is a bit of a misconception these days , but they are definitely still seen as (correlate to) heralds of something. This is a link to check what was happening with QE1 in parliament at that time http://www.historyofparliamentonline.org/volume/1558-1603/parliament/1589 Picture credit: StarWalk2 app https://internetshakespeare.uvic.ca/Library/facsimile/book/SLNSW_F1/450/?work=1h6&zoom=1275 😉 2 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christie Waldman Posted September 9 Share Posted September 9 Robert Dudley died in 1588. History magazine has a 1580's timeline. Aug. 1 1589 Henri III of France was stabbed and died the next day. https://www.history-magazine.com/1580stimeline.html. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Light-of-Truth Posted September 9 Share Posted September 9 STRANGE PHENOMENA 16th century woodcut depicting a 'comet' which was visualised as a terrible avenging sword. Loose German woodcut of 1589 https://www.alamy.com/strange-phenomena-16th-century-woodcut-depicting-a-comet-which-was-visualised-as-a-terrible-avenging-sword-loose-german-woodcut-of-1589-image179661894.html Reminds me a bit of the Ace of Swords. 4 T A A A A A A A A A A A T 157 www.Light-of-Truth.com 287 <-- 1 8 8 1 1 O 1 1 8 8 1 --> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kate Posted September 10 Author Share Posted September 10 12 hours ago, Allisnum2er said: https://internetshakespeare.uvic.ca/Library/facsimile/book/SLNSW_F1/450/?work=1h6&zoom=1275 😉 This is amazing Yann. I have tweeted (and obv credited you) Here you can see from Mashable and many other sites it says 434 years but today many outlets are suddenly saying 437 years. So we need to broaden the range. 3 "For nothing is born without unity or without the point." amazon.com/dp/B0CLDKDPY8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kate Posted September 10 Author Share Posted September 10 11 hours ago, Light-of-Truth said: STRANGE PHENOMENA 16th century woodcut depicting a 'comet' which was visualised as a terrible avenging sword. Loose German woodcut of 1589 https://www.alamy.com/strange-phenomena-16th-century-woodcut-depicting-a-comet-which-was-visualised-as-a-terrible-avenging-sword-loose-german-woodcut-of-1589-image179661894.html Reminds me a bit of the Ace of Swords. I'll tweet this too. Thank you and thanks Christie 4 "For nothing is born without unity or without the point." amazon.com/dp/B0CLDKDPY8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allisnum2er Posted September 10 Share Posted September 10 1 hour ago, Kate said: This is amazing Yann. I have tweeted (and obv credited you) Here you can see from Mashable and many other sites it says 434 years but today many outlets are suddenly saying 437 years. So we need to broaden the range. Thank you Kate ! By the past, comets were seen as Spears/lances or swords that pierced the sky, which is one of the explanations of the beautiful woodcut shared by Rob. The Arabic term for "comet" and "meteor " is Nayzak meaning ... short spear/lance. https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0019103520305984 (See 2.5 Nomenclature of transient celestial objects) https://internetshakespeare.uvic.ca/Library/facsimile/book/SLNSW_F1/450/?work=1h6&zoom=1275 I think that NAYSAK could be one transliteration of NAYZAK. And Brandish your "crystall Tresses in the Skie" could mean "Brandish your Spear" or in other term "Shake your Spear." With BACON in acrostic, it could suggest that BACON was SHAKE-SPEARE. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christie Waldman Posted September 10 Share Posted September 10 "Sheik" is Arabic for king. Pronounced "Shayk or Sheek." A female would be "Shaykah." according to vocabulary dot com. Shaykah sphere would be Queen of the World, or Queen of the Universe, names for the Virgin Queen Mary. I have read that Bacon was one of the few people most responsible for promoting the idea that his mother Queen Elizabeth was a Virgin Queen. (Is that an idea that was alluded to in the Shakespeare works? I have never looked. There is also the concept Astraea (Francis Yates' book. I have it, have not read it all. A. Phoenix, you have written about Astraea, haven't you?) What do you all think? No one things "queen" when they see "Shayk." They think "king." No one expects the pseudonym to have to do with his mother. But one of his goals, I think, was to bring glory to her reign, which he surely did, with the Shakespeare works. There are so many ways that "Shakespeare" as a pseudonym would work. We may not have thought of all of them yet. An extremely personal meaning, you would expect it to be well hidden. Certainly he could always point to the "cover" explanation, Pallas Athena shaking her spear at ignorance. What do you all think? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Light-of-Truth Posted September 10 Share Posted September 10 1 hour ago, Christie Waldman said: "Sheik" is Arabic for king. Pronounced "Shayk or Sheek." A female would be "Shaykah." according to vocabulary dot com. Shaykah sphere would be Queen of the World, or Queen of the Universe, names for the Virgin Queen Mary. I have read that Bacon was one of the few people most responsible for promoting the idea that his mother Queen Elizabeth was a Virgin Queen. (Is that an idea that was alluded to in the Shakespeare works? I have never looked. There is also the concept Astraea (Francis Yates' book. I have it, have not read it all. A. Phoenix, you have written about Astraea, haven't you?) What do you all think? No one things "queen" when they see "Shayk." They think "king." No one expects the pseudonym to have to do with his mother. But one of his goals, I think, was to bring glory to her reign, which he surely did, with the Shakespeare works. There are so many ways that "Shakespeare" as a pseudonym would work. We may not have thought of all of them yet. An extremely personal meaning, you would expect it to be well hidden. Certainly he could always point to the "cover" explanation, Pallas Athena shaking her spear at ignorance. What do you all think? "Sha" is used often in some languages at the beginning of a word and also at the end. SHA to me is S=18, H=8, and A=1 or 1881. I've mentioned before that I see number 1881 and SHA appear when Eternity and Time are involved or implied. Shayk, Shakespeare, Shall, so on and so on. I have come to believe that the number may be the Janus with faces pointing to the past and future. <--1881--> And to me on many occasions it has felt like Bacon and Dee left lessons in the works for us to learn about this number. Sonnet 18 has the SH (188) combo 18 times (if we count the "is his" as one of the SH combos), the most Eternal of all the Sonnets. SHall I compare thee to a Summers day? 3 T A A A A A A A A A A A T 157 www.Light-of-Truth.com 287 <-- 1 8 8 1 1 O 1 1 8 8 1 --> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A Phoenix Posted September 10 Share Posted September 10 Hi Christie, There are three references to Lord Bacon and Astraea in the Memoriae (Manes Verulamiani) 1626: Thus, blessed inhabitants of heaven, let Astraea enjoy her champion of old, or with Bacon give back Astraea. [Elegy 4 by R. P.]1 Oh Christ, a robe dyed in Thy blood, is given. To become whole he first put off himself. Earth, said he, receive my body; then he sought the stars. Thus, thus, the glorious spirit follows Astraea, and now beholds all cloudless the true Verulam. [Elegy 10 Anon.]2 What? Has litigation sprung up among the gods? Has aged Saturn, again aiming at supremacy, summoned into court his rival and son Jove? But having no pleader there he leaves the stars, directing his course to earth, where soon he finds one suitable for his purpose, namely Bacon, whom, mowing down with his scythe, he compels to adminster justice among the angels and between himself and his son Jove. What? Do then the gods need the wisdom of Bacon? Or has Astraea left the gods? It is so: she has gone: and even she, abandoning the stars, sedulously ministered to our Bacon. Saturn himself spent not his time in happier ages.... [Elegy 30 Henry Ockley, Trinity College, Cambridge] 1. W. G. C. Gundry, ed., Manes Verulamiana (London: The Chiswick Press, 1950), p. 39. 2. Ibid., p. 41. 3. Ibid., pp. 45-46. Elizabethan poets, dramatists and painters often associated Elizabeth I the (so-called) Virgin Queen with the goddess Astraea and it would seem rather fitting that three of the contributors to the Memoriae edited by Dr Rawley (who knew the secret of FB's royal birth) associated Astraea with her concealed son Francis in their multi-layered verses addressed to Quirinus (spearman/Spearhaker) our secret Shakespeare, Lord Bacon, the greatest man who ever lived. See below for a pictorial example by Francis Delaram after Hilliard. https://www.npg.org.uk/collections/search/portrait/mw91194/Queen-Elizabeth-I 2 1 https://aphoenix1.academia.edu/ https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCrY7wzlXnZiT1Urwx7jP6fQ/videos Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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