Baconian Evidence for Shakespeare Authorship

[Light-of-Truth]

I just want to share with you, Christie, the B'Hive, and the World at large...

What you bring to the B'Hive forum is valuable, highly valuable. Valuable as you have brought to SirBacon.org since you appeared some years ago. Lawrence and I have had many discussions regarding your contributions from the very first day. You and I remember the months we worked through the amazing work you shared on SirBacon.org! "No typos allowed! " LOL

Francis Bacon's Hidden Hand in Shakespeare's The Merchant of Venice

You have always been very honest about not getting what I do. I appreciate that, and never felt offended! I read your works and I am overwhelmed in words. I see in numbers and visuals! You are like most of the Baconian movement, based in words and documented facts. Lawrence prefers that to my wild easily laughed at cipher craziness! LOL

I'm thrilled your incredible mind is even curious, and asking. Thank you!!

I'd love to buy you a calculator and help you see what we cipher people see! However, if you are even open a little and continue what you do, checking with us now and then, we all as Baconians win one day! 😉

 

[Light-of-Truth]

44 as PHOENIX was the concept wanting to pop out of my mind and be known to me! I'm so embarrassed I did not remember!!! I have spent time playing with 44 many times!

Getting old is a challenge... LOL

 

Edited December 9, 2022 by Light-of-Truth

[Light-of-Truth]

39 minutes ago, Allisnum2er said:

And yes, I perfectly know what represents the number 44 for me...

Quick, clean question for you, Yann...

Do you remember the number 81?

I'm playing with Sonnet 81 and wish to refer to what we've talked about, if we did. Sonnet 18, Sonnet 81, the number 1881?

I do have vivid dreams, and almost remember some thoughts we SHAred, yet a search for 81 is zilch, zero, big 0. Guilty as everyone, 81 must have been in some kind of cool graphic that is now lost!!

 

[Allisnum2er]

5 minutes ago, Light-of-Truth said:

Quick, clean question for you, Yann...

Do you remember the number 81?

I'm playing with Sonnet 81 and wish to refer to what we've talked about, if we did. Sonnet 18, Sonnet 81, the number 1881?

I do have vivid dreams, and almost remember some thoughts we SHAred, yet a search for 81 is zilch, zero, big 0. Guilty as everyone, 81 must have been in some kind of cool graphic that is now lost!!

 

You do not have to be embarrassed Rob. Indeed, you have shared with us some of your thoughts few month ago on Sonnets 18 and 81, but a lot of water has flowed under the bridge since then. 🙂

 I found the link for you : 

 

[Christie Waldman]

I see it! I see it! It's beautiful. But I totally missed it before. Thank you, thank you both. Thank you for your kind words and advice, also!

Edited December 9, 2022 by Christie Waldman
hadn't read all the comments yet.

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24 minutes ago, Allisnum2er said:

You do not have to be embarrassed Rob. Indeed, you have shared with us some of your thoughts few month ago on Sonnets 18 and 81, but a lot of water has flowed under the bridge since then. 🙂

 I found the link for you : 

 

Thank you Allisnum2er!!

I'm changing gears. I was going to enjoy writing a very long interconnected Sonnets concept of Sonnet 81, 18, the number 1881, and so on. You know I would and can do it. Would anybody get it? LOL

A few would or already know, maybe even a person or two in public here. 😉

So right now, being here with you all, here is my vision to follow. Visualize, imagine, see in your mind while being present:

Bacon, Jonson, others we may or may not know, in a room hanging out together. Most likely drinking and enjoying the treats of the day. I think they were important enough and LOVED enough that they had quality service by people Bacon and his friend's loved like family.

Kicking around the future and a few numbers with a purpose to teach what we are supposed to learn, 400 years later. Laughing! Bouncing ideas! Things like using "shall" in places where they could leave exciting treasures about 1881, acrostics and anagrams where they matter telling the story! Having a total blast knowing, if their dreams come true, some collection of invisible college students would be finding our ways through the game!

 

[Light-of-Truth]

1 hour ago, Allisnum2er said:

I found the link for you : 

So funny! I already shared most of what I wanted to say and barely remember. New topic Ross Jackson, but Sonnet 18 and 81 are all about Bacon writing his most eternal lines to himself as SHAkespeare with 18, 81, and 1881 to boot.

Thank you, Sir Bacon for SHAring the number 1881 with us. Something about Time and Eternity, right? 157 and 287 are about Power and Strength, but 1881 is about what Time Is and what Time Was, or what Time Will be?

 

 

Edited December 9, 2022 by Light-of-Truth

[Light-of-Truth]

Bacon's words to us, in Sonnet 81 which is one of the places where 1881 is emphasized. The numbers are no accident, but there is no reason to worry about that today:

Your name from hence immortall life shall haue,
Though I (once gone) to all the world must dye,
The earth can yeeld me but a common graue,
When you intombed in mens eyes shall lye,
Your monument shall be my gentle verse,
Which eyes not yet created shall ore-read,

Here Bacon is making absolutely certain the name SHAkespeare will be eternal. Sonnet 81, like Sonnet 18, has an abundance of 188 and 1881. After all these years, I keep seeing the same lessons from Bacon. And they came to him from Dee. Whatever he did worked, and it worked very well. SHAkespeare is the single most Eternal legacy of the past 400 years.

[Allisnum2er]

This morning, I woke up with a sentence in mind :

The Two-Faces of Janus

And I was not able to make it leave my mind.

Was it a message ?

I decided to investigate and, as crazy as it sounds, here is, I think, what I was asked to find.

We know that "the two-headed Janus" is mentionned only once in the First Folio, in "The Merchant of Venice."

And we have, as I said two days ago, the great work of Simon Miles on the "JANUS Signature", and the parallel made between Janus, Bassanio/Anthonio and Democritus/Heraclitus known as the laughing and the crying Philosophers.

https://internetshakespeare.uvic.ca/Library/facsimile/book/SLNSW_F1/15/index.html%3fzoom=1275.html

I wondered if "Two Faces" could be hidden somewhere  in the First Folio.

Here is what I found ...

We have Bacon as the Two-headed Janus with a reference to Dark and Light, and to the laughting and the crying Philosophers.

(LUGH or LUG was the celtic god of Sun and Light)

https://sirbacon.org/bacon-forum/index.php?/topic/84-portraits-and-engravings-of-francis-bacon/#comment-395

EDIT :

Rob (Light-of-Truth) , I also wonder if this is the word  "shame" or "sha - me " 1881-me 😉 

JOY

😊

 

 

 

 

 

Edited December 11, 2022 by Allisnum2er

[Christie Waldman]

This is changing the subject--and it is fine if you go back to the previous conversation--but I wanted to sneak something in on Evidence that it was so great to see on the Web:  "Shakespeare and Bacon" (by Dr. Gervinus), from William T. Smedley, The Mystery of Francis Bacon. It is from Sept. 7, 2022, posted by InLibroVeritas, https://www.anthologiablog.com/post/dr-gervinus-shakespeare-and-bacon.

[Light-of-Truth]

There is also a link on the page to the full "The Mystery of Francis Bacon", by William T. Smedley.

Great resource. I remember reading this book a long time ago. 🙂

 

[Christie Waldman]

What struck me from the Anthologia website article was that Gervinus was writing about Bacon-Shakespeare in his book published in 1849, Shakespeare  (translated and published first  in 1863 as Shakespeare Commentaries. Abe Books has copies published by Smith, Elder in London published in 1883, and 1890; 1903 is 6th ed. and there is a 1971 ed. too), even earlier than the books by British barrister William H. Smith or American writer and lecturer Delia Bacon in 1856-57. The Anthologia website calls him "the eminent German Historian and Professor Extraordinary at Heidelberg." Yes, here are two more things for me to read, first Smedley and then Gervinus.

I just learned of this source (thanks to Lawrence), the Stanford Shakespeare Global Encyclopedia, so new they do not have their introduction up yet, it seems, on their "About Us" page. https://shakespeare-encyclopedia.stanford.edu/entry/gervinus-georg-gottfried. Caution: Stanley Wells is on on their global advisory board. You can do a search for Bacon and judge for yourself how fair and accurate their treatment of him is. https://shakespeare-encyclopedia.stanford.edu/search?search_api_fulltext=Bacon.

It is always better, I think, when encyclopedias cite sources so others can fact-check them and do further reading if desired. It is less likely that opinion will be stated as if it were fact when sources are cited.

The Gervinus text is a free e-book through "Open Access" at HathiTrust, https://shakespeare-encyclopedia.stanford.edu/search?search_api_fulltext=Bacon. The index in the book gives only one page for Bacon, p. 884, but that discussion goes through p. 887. A search of the book for "Bacon," however, at HathiTrust brings up these pages as well: xiii, 8, 26, 69, 74, 75, 82, 93, 172, 185, 245, 282, 315, 320, 341, 370, 393, 525, 674-76, 709, 792, 834, 860, 873, 879-80,  882, 884-87, 890,  892-93, 905-07, 909, 910, 913-14, 916, 918, 931, 933, 954.