An underestimated cipher? — The numerical cipher of the Bavarian Illuminati

[Luis Quirino]

Dear Friends,

In this new topic I will talk about something that may be a bit controversial: the numerical (cryptographic substitution) cipher that was used by the Bavarian Illuminati.

I recently started a thread on Twitter about this subject, but as Twitter puts limits on the size of the posts, it isn't always the best way to communicate our ideas, particularly if we have many things to say about it and we don't have that blue checkmark in front of our username. 😅

So... here it goes.

In 2008 I found that the Bavarian Illuminati used a curious cryptographic substitution cipher (in their "Novice" degree) in which the letters of the alphabet were replaced by their corresponding values, so that a word, name or phrase could be concealed from the uninitiated. For example, the name "Spartacus" (Weishaupt's alias in the Illuminati Order) would have been written as "18.15.12.17.19.12.10.20.18." using this cipher.


(From "A History of Secret Societies" by Arkon Daraul)

As you may have noticed, this cipher is adapted to the Elizabethan English alphabet with 24 letters (since I=J and U=V). According to Terry Melanson in "Perfectibilists - The 18th Century Bavarian Order of the Illuminati", page 230:

«This cypher might very well have been composed solely in the mind of Weishaupt, but the similarity to a known Rosicrucian cypher used by Francis Bacon, and his "Rosicrosse Literary Society", is too close to ignore. It seems to be a cross between the "Simple Cypher" and the "Kaye Cypher" (1) (see "Numerological Cypher Chart" at SirBacon.org, URL: http://www.sirbacon.org/links/doddnum.html). Perhaps it was used in Freemasonry as well, for the Illuminati were not using the cypher until after its members — Weishaupt included — began joining Masonic Lodges.»

(1) In my view it would be more correct to state that it seems to be a cross between the "Simple" and the "Reverse" cipher, since in the cipher of the Illuminati the first half of the alphabet (A-M) follows a reverse order, while the second half (N-Z) follows the simple/ordinal sequence.

When I found this cipher I was amazed to know that no one was using it. I mean... at that time I was reading so many theories about the "evil Illuminati who control the world", while at the same time I thought it was more than surprising that no one, not even the most ferocious conspiracy theorists, were giving it the slightest attention. There were many rumors that the Great Seal of the United States contained "Illuminati" symbology as well, and yet, no one was trying to "decode" it with the numerical cipher of the Illuminati. How strange was that?

So I had this 'rebellious' thought, even though I was always extremely skeptic about most theories about the Illuminati: "dammit, no one is talking about this cipher — how about if I use it to decode the mottos and phrases contained in the Great Seal?".

I say this was a 'rebellious' thought for the simple reason that the numerical cipher of the Illuminati was never used — as far as I know — as a cipher of Gematria, adding the values of the letters in a word or phrase, but as a cryptographic substitution cipher, replacing the letters by their corresponding values. However, that was precisely what was the most tempting about this cipher. What would happen if we used it as a cipher of Gematria?  So I gave it a try. And I was completely overwhelmed with what I saw. 👀



There's an immensity of 13's in the Great Seal of the United States:
— 13 stars above the eagle;
— 13 steps on the pyramid;
— 13 letters in "ANNUIT COEPTIS";
— 13 letters in "E PLURIBUS UNUM";
— 13 vertical bars on the shield;
— etc. You get the idea.

Now... only two mottos in the Great Seal have exactly 13 letters. And coincidentally, their value according to the Illuminati cipher is 169, or 13×13.

— "ANNUIT COEPTIS" (13 letters) = 169 = 13×13
— "E PLURIBUS UNUM" (13 letters) = 169 = 13×13

The motto "IN GOD WE TRUST" has 12 letters and sums 168. That motto is exactly above a large "ONE" at the centre of the reverse of the 1 Dollar bill, and if we add "ONE" (i.e. 1) to 12 and 168, we will have 13 and 169, which is 13×13.



There are exactly 13 instances of the letter N in the reverse side of the 1 Dollar bill, and in the Illuminati cipher, "N"=13:



Count all the letters on the reverse side of the 1 Dollar bill:

— "THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA" = 24 letters
— five times the word "ONE", one at each corners and one at the centre = 15 letters
— "ONE DOLLAR" = 9 letters
— "IN GOD WE TRUST" = 12 letters
— "ANNUIT COEPTIS" = 13 letters
— "NOVUS ORDO SECLORUM" = 17 letters
— "MDCCLXXVI" = 9 letters
— "THE GREAT SEAL" = 12 letters
— "OF THE UNITED STATES" = 17 letters
— "E PLURIBUS UNUM" = 13 letters

Total sum: 24+15+9+12+13+17+9+12+17+13 = 141

Apparently there wouldn't be anything of interest to say about this number, if we would limit ourselves to associate any of this to the Bavarian Illuminati only. And that's precisely where it gets interesting. In fact, I only started studying the works of Francis Bacon, the Shakespeare authorship question, and Rosicrucianism, after I found the Illuminati cipher and applied it to the Great Seal of the United States. Besides, there's a whole riddle around the life of Sir Francis Bacon, Rosicrucianism and the Illuminati that I find most curious:

— Athena Parthenos, the Virgin Spear-Shaker;
— Elizabeth I, the Virgin Queen;
— All the numerical codes connecting Bacon, Shakespeare and Athena;
— The use of "Athenian" (i.e. related to Athena) symbolism by Bacon, Rosicrucians, the Illuminati, etc.
— The US "Statue of Liberty", which officially represents Libertas, the Goddess of Freedom, but I suspect that has a strong connection to Athena, the Goddess of Reason;
— The Georgia Guidestones, with its anonymous Rosicrucian "sponsor" (R. C. Christian) and its mentions to an "Age of Reason";
— Bacon's Great Instauration, related to the all-important process of the Perfectibility of Man;
— All the Baconian-inspired symbolism in Freemasonry;
— The connection of the USA to Bacon's New Atlantis...

Eventually, studying the works of Francis Bacon also led me to an inevitable conclusion: what if there were traces of a Baconian-Rosicrucian-Illuminati "conspiracy" to make the United States the "New Atlantis", and those traces could be found with the numerical cipher of the Illuminati? Just think a bit about it: the Illuminati used a cipher that was a cross between the Baconian "Simple" and "Reverse" ciphers, so why not using it in this same context?

So what makes the number 141 relevant in this case? It is in fact extremely relevant, for the simple fact that, applying the Illuminati cipher, it matches the value of "FRANCIS BACON", "NEW ATLANTIS", and also... "LET THERE BE LIGHT". (!!!)

* * *

In my Baconian studies, I also found that there was a Newfoundland stamp which reads "Lord Bacon - The Guiding Spirit in Colonization Scheme". Curiously, this is a postage stamp corresponding to Six Cents — which reminds me Lord Bacon's ultimate goal of the Perfectibility of Man through a mention to the Six Days' Work in New Atlantis. Remember that, in mathematical terms, 6 is often called a "perfect" number. Note too that there are two numbers "6" and one word "six" (in "Six Cents"). Maybe there's nothing to this, but... at this time I'm not quite sure of anything. 😅

Also:

"GUIDING SPIRIT OF COLONIZATION SCHEME" has 33 letters (="BACON" in the Simple cipher) and sums 349 in the Illuminati cipher, matching the value of "FAMA FRATERNITATIS ROSAE CRUCIS". Likewise, "LORD BACON" adds to 102 which matches "GREAT SEAL".

As for 157's and 287's that I found with the Illuminati cipher, I'll leave just a few:

— "VIRGINIA COMPANIE" = 157 ("companie" is the old spelling of "company" in Elizabethan English)
— "SALOMON'S HOUSE" = 157 (as it is spelled - amongst a variety of other alternative spellings - in Bacon's "New Atlantis")

— "UNITED STATES OF ATLANTIS" = 287 (a play on words, viewing the U.S.A. as Francis Bacon's New Atlantis)

And as a bonus... note that in the United States' Declaration of Independence, in the paragraph starting with "We, therefore" there are three phrases that are written with a different letter type:

— "WE, THEREFORE" = 132 = "SIX, SIX SIX" = "NEW JERUSALEM"
— "UNITED STATES OF AMERICA" = 252 = "PERFECT, PERFECT, PERFECT"
— "FREE AND INDEPENDENT STATES" = 287 (nothing to add!)

What are your opinions about this?
Too paranoid? LOL. Or did you see any value in these findings?

L.G.

Edited May 30 by Luis Quirino

[Light-of-Truth]

11 minutes ago, Luis Quirino said:

What are your opinions about this?
Too paranoid? LOL. Or did you see any value in these findings?

BAC is 33, I like that. F BACON is 66. I like that too.

We who travel the number hints need not ever think of paranoia or sanity. Just accept yourself that we are bouncing in waves in a large mysterious ocean lost at sea in some ways, like the dolphin swimming free with joy.

Our purpose is to "peek" beyond the veil.  🙂

 

 

[Light-of-Truth]

22 minutes ago, Luis Quirino said:

As you may have noticed, this cipher is adapted to the Elizabethan English alphabet with 24 letters (since I=J and U=V). According to Terry Melanson in "Perfectibilists - The 18th Century Bavarian Order of the Illuminati", page 230:

Can you share an image of page 230 or a link????

[Luis Quirino]

1 hour ago, Light-of-Truth said:

Can you share an image of page 230 or a link????

Sure! The text I quoted is just a footnote, but the main text that footnote refers to is this:



In fact I forgot to mention the original source of the numerical cipher, Einige Originalschriften des Illuminatenordens, where the cipher appears like this:


"The well-known cipher of the Order of the Illuminati"

There are slight variations of this cipher where some letters seem to have been exchanged, as in Der Ächte Illuminat:



Comparing these two cipher tables, some details can be noticed: namely that (1) "Z" and "X" seem to have been exchanged in the second table, and (2) the letter "V" is given the value 21, while in the first table it would be given the value 20, according to the traditional tables for the 24-letter alphabet. In fact, after searching the publicly available documents of the Illuminati and looking through many instances of ciphered words/phrases, I noticed a consistent pattern in which "U" and "V" were always given the value 20, "W" was given the value 21, and "X" and "Z" were given the values 22 and 24, so it is the first table that should be taken as reference for the cipher of the Illuminati.

Anyway... there's something else about this second table. 🧐

Notice the middle column: in the Illuminati cipher, the letters "C-B-A-N-O" have consecutive values, since the first half of the alphabet follows a reverse numerical order. How curious is that?!

[Light-of-Truth]

48 minutes ago, Luis Quirino said:

How curious is that?!

Thank you! Very good stuff!!

Before I learned about Bacon my previous spouse was reading "The Illuminatus! Trilogy" by American writers Robert Shea and Robert Anton Wilson, first published in 1975.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Illuminatus!_Trilogy

It was a very strange synchronicity time that led up to meeting Lawrence G who founded SirBacon.org. Seems like I remember RAW was Lawrence's room-mate in college. But my mind gets fuzzy over the years...that would be quite the coincidence. LG and RAW in the same dorm room!

Even before I met Lawrence and he introduced me to Bacon 26 years ago, the Dolphins and Pyramid were already showing up in my life.

Life is strange inDeed. 😉

 

 

 

[Light-of-Truth]

3 hours ago, Luis Quirino said:

Eventually, studying the works of Francis Bacon also led me to an inevitable conclusion: what if there were traces of a Baconian-Rosicrucian-Illuminati "conspiracy" to make the United States the "New Atlantis", and those traces could be found with the numerical cipher of the Illuminati? Just think a bit about it: the Illuminati used a cipher that was a cross between the Baconian "Simple" and "Reverse" ciphers, so why not using it in this same context?

So what makes the number 141 relevant in this case? It is in fact extremely relevant, for the simple fact that, applying the Illuminati cipher, it matches the value of "FRANCIS BACON", "NEW ATLANTIS", and also... "LET THERE BE LIGHT". (!!!)

Luis, try to distance yourself from the negative word "conspiracy", that is not an accurate concept in my mind. Bacon's Rosicrucian plan is amazingly beautiful, his New Atlantis is to become a perfect manifestation of his dream. All of our dreams come true. Many will call it evil or be afraid of the numbers, those who are profane, in the darkness. Power hungry and greedy will always fight the Light.

The United States was designed to be the New Atlantis. We are still working out the details and hope it turns out right. It's crazy today, hope we still have time to secure it. I am one who is on the Rosicrucian team of Bacon, using my number skills and my "Will" to help every human being and every living thing on Earth to thrive in Peace and Love.

141?

I was born in 1960, the first line of Sonnet 141:

http://www.light-of-truth.com/pyramid-GMT.php#Sonnet141

LET THERE BE LIGHT!

 

[Luis Quirino]

13 minutes ago, Light-of-Truth said:

Thank you! Very good stuff!!

Before I learned about Bacon my previous spouse was reading "The Illuminatus! Trilogy" by American writers Robert Shea and Robert Anton Wilson, first published in 1975.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Illuminatus!_Trilogy

It was a very strange synchronicity time that led up to meeting Lawrence G who founded SirBacon.org. Seems like I remember RAW was Lawrence's room-mate in college. But my mind gets fuzzy over the years...that would be quite the coincidence. LG and RAW in the same dorm room!

Even before I met Lawrence and he introduced me to Bacon 26 years ago, the Dolphins and Pyramid were already showing up in my life.

Life is strange inDeed. 😉

 

 

 

How curious would it be, then, if I told you that "ILLUMINATUS!" (=115=5×23, using the same cipher) was precisely what opened the way to my Baconian studies?

And I forgot to mention one thing in the first post:

141 letters on the reverse of the 1 dollar bill = "FRANCIS BACON" = "NEW ATLANTIS" = "NEWFOUNDLAND" (remember that Newfoundland stamp?)

[Luis Quirino]

Oh! 

[Kate]

Really interesting post(s), Luis. Thanks!

[Luis Quirino]

Considering the possibility that the Illuminati cipher could have been used to encode secret references in the Great Seal of the United States, there are a series of questions that deserve to be asked:

— Was there anyone using that cipher when the Great Seal was designed? Considering the information given by Terry Melanson that the Illuminati only began using that cipher after some of its members (Weishaupt included) started joining Masonic lodges — then was there anyone using that cipher as early as 1782, or even earlier? And who exactly was using it?

— It would be possible that the cipher was being used in certain Masonic lodges before the Illuminati started using it. However, who would then be responsible for all the encoding process in the Great Seal of the United States? And what would that imply, exactly?

— Would it be possible that the numerical cipher of the Illuminati was the "final piece" of the Baconian 'puzzle'? And would that imply that, somehow, the Illuminati also followed some kind of Baconian "Grand Plan"? I believe they did, even though their methods were extremely radical (which eventually led to their downfall). Never forget that Thomas Jefferson, one of the Founding Fathers of the United States, considered Bacon, Locke and Newton the "three greatest men that ever live" (source), while in a correspondence with Bishop James Madison he calls Weishaupt an "enthusiastic Philanthropist".

Any thoughts on these questions, or any other question you would like to post?

By the way, if anyone is looking for a serious book for studying the Bavarian Order of the Illuminati, their doctrines and rituals, I highly suggest "The Secret School of Wisdom", published by Lewis Masonic. It's an expensive book — but you absolutely must read it if you want to understand the Illuminati from their own words.

Edited June 2 by Luis Quirino

[Light-of-Truth]

Thanks for adding some new perspectives! Very interesting! Freemasons have taught me a few things, I'm pretty sure I know some Rosicrucians who feed my mind (invisible college?), but "the Illuminate" have not been in my grasp, that I am aware.

I've heard of "them" since before learning of Bacon as I mentioned that my previous wife read The Illuminatus! Triliogy in the mid 90s, but no real experience myself. Haven't read as much in 30 years as I have today! Seriously!

A while back a guy's name popped up here on the forum that I may be related to, a Bode.

The Illuminate Novice cipher is intriguing!

https://alektryon.github.io/gematro/

I'd like to play with a modern 26 letter version as well. 🙂

Luis, you may be the expert here right now. Please share your opinions!

I suspect CJ could offer some rational and knowledgeable feedback, as he likes to do. 😉

 

 

[Luis Quirino]

On 6/2/2023 at 8:46 PM, Light-of-Truth said:

The Illuminate Novice cipher is intriguing!

https://alektryon.github.io/gematro/

I'd like to play with a modern 26 letter version as well. 🙂

Luis, you may be the expert here right now. Please share your opinions!

Actually... that was something I did in the past, but I never duly explored it. 😁 I also didn't add it to the calculator, even though I added another experimental cipher called "Illuminati Reverse". To be honest, I still don't know why I did it, because I still don't feel compelled to use it (I mean, the "Illuminati Reverse" cipher) but a modern version of the Illuminati cipher would definitely be something to play with a bit more deeply. I believe this would match your idea for a modern version of the cipher:



Using this cipher:
"MINERVA-ATHENA" = 157 = "W. SHAKESPEARE" = "ROSIE CROSSE" = "SOLOMON'S TEMPLE"
"MINERVA-ATHENE" = 153 (the 17th triangular number) = "FRANCIS BACON" = "NEWFOUNDLAND"

These are just two random examples, but you can easily add that cipher to the calculator by going to the "Features" menu -> "Edit Ciphers", and then add your own ciphers. In order to keep those ciphers so that you don't have to add them each time you open the calculator, simply save the settings in the "Export" menu -> "Save". It will save all the settings you have in the calculator (ciphers colors, etc), including the ciphers you added.

In any case, I will seriously ponder the possibility of adding that cipher to the calculator as well.
Generally I am very skeptical about using experimental ciphers to "decode" things, but... who knows? 😋

* * *

About the Illuminati cipher and the 1 Dollar bill:

It's still such a deep enigma for me! I wouldn't know where to start. In order to get a clear solution to this problem, we would need to know: (1) all the people who were involved (openly and secretly) in the creation of the Great Seal of the United States; (2) what were their "affiliations" in terms of secret societies; (3) if those secret societies were involved with the Illuminati, and/or with Rosicrucianism, and/or if they followed the same steps for a Baconian "Grand Plan".

The problem is: I know nothing about this! But anyway, I will do my homework, and I will gladly share any facts I may find. 🙂

[Light-of-Truth]

45 minutes ago, Luis Quirino said:

These are just two random examples, but you can easily add that cipher to the calculator by going to the "Features" menu -> "Edit Ciphers", and then add your own ciphers. In order to keep those ciphers so that you don't have to add them each time you open the calculator, simply save the settings in the "Export" menu -> "Save". It will save all the settings you have in the calculator (ciphers colors, etc), including the ciphers you added.

Impressive! 🙂

Thanks!

[Light-of-Truth]

1 hour ago, Luis Quirino said:

Actually... that was something I did in the past, but I never duly explored it. 😁 I also didn't add it to the calculator, even though I added another experimental cipher called "Illuminati Reverse". To be honest, I still don't know why I did it, because I still don't feel compelled to use it (I mean, the "Illuminati Reverse" cipher) but a modern version of the Illuminati cipher would definitely be something to play with a bit more deeply. I believe this would match your idea for a modern version of the cipher:



Using this cipher:
"MINERVA-ATHENA" = 157 = "W. SHAKESPEARE" = "ROSIE CROSSE" = "SOLOMON'S TEMPLE"
"MINERVA-ATHENE" = 153 (the 17th triangular number) = "FRANCIS BACON" = "NEWFOUNDLAND"

These are just two random examples, but you can easily add that cipher to the calculator by going to the "Features" menu -> "Edit Ciphers", and then add your own ciphers. In order to keep those ciphers so that you don't have to add them each time you open the calculator, simply save the settings in the "Export" menu -> "Save". It will save all the settings you have in the calculator (ciphers colors, etc), including the ciphers you added.

In any case, I will seriously ponder the possibility of adding that cipher to the calculator as well.
Generally I am very skeptical about using experimental ciphers to "decode" things, but... who knows? 😋

* * *

About the Illuminati cipher and the 1 Dollar bill:

It's still such a deep enigma for me! I wouldn't know where to start. In order to get a clear solution to this problem, we would need to know: (1) all the people who were involved (openly and secretly) in the creation of the Great Seal of the United States; (2) what were their "affiliations" in terms of secret societies; (3) if those secret societies were involved with the Illuminati, and/or with Rosicrucianism, and/or if they followed the same steps for a Baconian "Grand Plan".

The problem is: I know nothing about this! But anyway, I will do my homework, and I will gladly share any facts I may find. 🙂

I've been thinking about the Dollar Pyramid quite a bit these past days. We are approaching Day 157 (at Midnight tonight) after passing beyond Two Ts and eleven As in Sonnet 66. Right now as I type we are in the second T, Line 923 of the Sonnets GPT time.

https://www.light-of-truth.com/pyramid-GMT.php#Line0923

Even without combining the Sonnets with the patterns, there is a very Powerful 14x26 tables of numbers.

https://www.light-of-truth.com/keys.htm

If we accept that the Secret Shakespearean Seal numbers, 157 and 287 have any important, then the above table is important as well.

Based on my own time exploring these two numbers, and how they fit into the Sonnets Pyramid, I have felt that Bacon teaches us they are about "Strength and Permanence." I've said that many times here on the B'Hive. I never read it, but "learned" it. I can give you as many examples of the lessons you'd ever wish for.

UNITED STATES is 157 Simple and 287 Kaye ciphers using the modern 26 letter codes.

Just now I read this which gave me a shiver up my spine:

https://www.rd.com/list/dollar-bill-symbols/

Symbol: Pyramid

One of the most eye-catching dollar bill symbols is the pyramid, which represents strength and duration.

In the Sonnets Pyramid, the top of the 13th Tier ends with Line 2001.

Oh my, so much that I have shared that falls of mostly deaf ears.

Luis, if you have a half hour to spare, try to watch me struggle through Part 1 of the Sonnets Pyramid explanation that covers some of the 157/287 connections.

 

[RoyalCraftiness]

On 5/30/2023 at 7:41 PM, Luis Quirino said:

Dear Friends,

In this new topic I will talk about something that may be a bit controversial: the numerical (cryptographic substitution) cipher that was used by the Bavarian Illuminati.

I recently started a thread on Twitter about this subject, but as Twitter puts limits on the size of the posts, it isn't always the best way to communicate our ideas, particularly if we have many things to say about it and we don't have that blue checkmark in front of our username. 😅

So... here it goes.

In 2008 I found that the Bavarian Illuminati used a curious cryptographic substitution cipher (in their "Novice" degree) in which the letters of the alphabet were replaced by their corresponding values, so that a word, name or phrase could be concealed from the uninitiated. For example, the name "Spartacus" (Weishaupt's alias in the Illuminati Order) would have been written as "18.15.12.17.19.12.10.20.18." using this cipher.


(From "A History of Secret Societies" by Arkon Daraul)

As you may have noticed, this cipher is adapted to the Elizabethan English alphabet with 24 letters (since I=J and U=V). According to Terry Melanson in "Perfectibilists - The 18th Century Bavarian Order of the Illuminati", page 230:

«This cypher might very well have been composed solely in the mind of Weishaupt, but the similarity to a known Rosicrucian cypher used by Francis Bacon, and his "Rosicrosse Literary Society", is too close to ignore. It seems to be a cross between the "Simple Cypher" and the "Kaye Cypher" (1) (see "Numerological Cypher Chart" at SirBacon.org, URL: http://www.sirbacon.org/links/doddnum.html). Perhaps it was used in Freemasonry as well, for the Illuminati were not using the cypher until after its members — Weishaupt included — began joining Masonic Lodges.»

(1) In my view it would be more correct to state that it seems to be a cross between the "Simple" and the "Reverse" cipher, since in the cipher of the Illuminati the first half of the alphabet (A-M) follows a reverse order, while the second half (N-Z) follows the simple/ordinal sequence.

When I found this cipher I was amazed to know that no one was using it. I mean... at that time I was reading so many theories about the "evil Illuminati who control the world", while at the same time I thought it was more than surprising that no one, not even the most ferocious conspiracy theorists, were giving it the slightest attention. There were many rumors that the Great Seal of the United States contained "Illuminati" symbology as well, and yet, no one was trying to "decode" it with the numerical cipher of the Illuminati. How strange was that?

So I had this 'rebellious' thought, even though I was always extremely skeptic about most theories about the Illuminati: "dammit, no one is talking about this cipher — how about if I use it to decode the mottos and phrases contained in the Great Seal?".

I say this was a 'rebellious' thought for the simple reason that the numerical cipher of the Illuminati was never used — as far as I know — as a cipher of Gematria, adding the values of the letters in a word or phrase, but as a cryptographic substitution cipher, replacing the letters by their corresponding values. However, that was precisely what was the most tempting about this cipher. What would happen if we used it as a cipher of Gematria?  So I gave it a try. And I was completely overwhelmed with what I saw. 👀



There's an immensity of 13's in the Great Seal of the United States:
— 13 stars above the eagle;
— 13 steps on the pyramid;
— 13 letters in "ANNUIT COEPTIS";
— 13 letters in "E PLURIBUS UNUM";
— 13 vertical bars on the shield;
— etc. You get the idea.

Now... only two mottos in the Great Seal have exactly 13 letters. And coincidentally, their value according to the Illuminati cipher is 169, or 13×13.

— "ANNUIT COEPTIS" (13 letters) = 169 = 13×13
— "E PLURIBUS UNUM" (13 letters) = 169 = 13×13

The motto "IN GOD WE TRUST" has 12 letters and sums 168. That motto is exactly above a large "ONE" at the centre of the reverse of the 1 Dollar bill, and if we add "ONE" (i.e. 1) to 12 and 168, we will have 13 and 169, which is 13×13.



There are exactly 13 instances of the letter N in the reverse side of the 1 Dollar bill, and in the Illuminati cipher, "N"=13:



Count all the letters on the reverse side of the 1 Dollar bill:

— "THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA" = 24 letters
— five times the word "ONE", one at each corners and one at the centre = 15 letters
— "ONE DOLLAR" = 9 letters
— "IN GOD WE TRUST" = 12 letters
— "ANNUIT COEPTIS" = 13 letters
— "NOVUS ORDO SECLORUM" = 17 letters
— "MDCCLXXVI" = 9 letters
— "THE GREAT SEAL" = 12 letters
— "OF THE UNITED STATES" = 17 letters
— "E PLURIBUS UNUM" = 13 letters

Total sum: 24+15+9+12+13+17+9+12+17+13 = 141

Apparently there wouldn't be anything of interest to say about this number, if we would limit ourselves to associate any of this to the Bavarian Illuminati only. And that's precisely where it gets interesting. In fact, I only started studying the works of Francis Bacon, the Shakespeare authorship question, and Rosicrucianism, after I found the Illuminati cipher and applied it to the Great Seal of the United States. Besides, there's a whole riddle around the life of Sir Francis Bacon, Rosicrucianism and the Illuminati that I find most curious:

— Athena Parthenos, the Virgin Spear-Shaker;
— Elizabeth I, the Virgin Queen;
— All the numerical codes connecting Bacon, Shakespeare and Athena;
— The use of "Athenian" (i.e. related to Athena) symbolism by Bacon, Rosicrucians, the Illuminati, etc.
— The US "Statue of Liberty", which officially represents Libertas, the Goddess of Freedom, but I suspect that has a strong connection to Athena, the Goddess of Reason;
— The Georgia Guidestones, with its anonymous Rosicrucian "sponsor" (R. C. Christian) and its mentions to an "Age of Reason";
— Bacon's Great Instauration, related to the all-important process of the Perfectibility of Man;
— All the Baconian-inspired symbolism in Freemasonry;
— The connection of the USA to Bacon's New Atlantis...

Eventually, studying the works of Francis Bacon also led me to an inevitable conclusion: what if there were traces of a Baconian-Rosicrucian-Illuminati "conspiracy" to make the United States the "New Atlantis", and those traces could be found with the numerical cipher of the Illuminati? Just think a bit about it: the Illuminati used a cipher that was a cross between the Baconian "Simple" and "Reverse" ciphers, so why not using it in this same context?

So what makes the number 141 relevant in this case? It is in fact extremely relevant, for the simple fact that, applying the Illuminati cipher, it matches the value of "FRANCIS BACON", "NEW ATLANTIS", and also... "LET THERE BE LIGHT". (!!!)

* * *

In my Baconian studies, I also found that there was a Newfoundland stamp which reads "Lord Bacon - The Guiding Spirit in Colonization Scheme". Curiously, this is a postage stamp corresponding to Six Cents — which reminds me Lord Bacon's ultimate goal of the Perfectibility of Man through a mention to the Six Days' Work in New Atlantis. Remember that, in mathematical terms, 6 is often called a "perfect" number. Note too that there are two numbers "6" and one word "six" (in "Six Cents"). Maybe there's nothing to this, but... at this time I'm not quite sure of anything. 😅

Also:

"GUIDING SPIRIT OF COLONIZATION SCHEME" has 33 letters (="BACON" in the Simple cipher) and sums 349 in the Illuminati cipher, matching the value of "FAMA FRATERNITATIS ROSAE CRUCIS". Likewise, "LORD BACON" adds to 102 which matches "GREAT SEAL".

As for 157's and 287's that I found with the Illuminati cipher, I'll leave just a few:

— "VIRGINIA COMPANIE" = 157 ("companie" is the old spelling of "company" in Elizabethan English)
— "SALOMON'S HOUSE" = 157 (as it is spelled - amongst a variety of other alternative spellings - in Bacon's "New Atlantis")

— "UNITED STATES OF ATLANTIS" = 287 (a play on words, viewing the U.S.A. as Francis Bacon's New Atlantis)

And as a bonus... note that in the United States' Declaration of Independence, in the paragraph starting with "We, therefore" there are three phrases that are written with a different letter type:

— "WE, THEREFORE" = 132 = "SIX, SIX SIX" = "NEW JERUSALEM"
— "UNITED STATES OF AMERICA" = 252 = "PERFECT, PERFECT, PERFECT"
— "FREE AND INDEPENDENT STATES" = 287 (nothing to add!)

What are your opinions about this?
Too paranoid? LOL. Or did you see any value in these findings?

L.G.

You're describing something that was created long after Bacon lived and after the Freemasonic stories appeared suddenly, and from which all this is likely taking. Never forget that there were Freemasons who did not know anything about Bacon. Jewish or Egyptian connections to Freemasonry who accepted that there were some (they still exist). Much of Freemasonry after 1723 is just willful crafted story telling (a masque). When the historically very interested Masonic lodges themselves went looking into all this story telling, none could find any evidentiary links to what some believed. In fact, all that one can show is that there is evidence to the contrary.  It demands that we ask the question: why is there a belief in things for which we lack proof?  What is the source of this belief if not merely the acceptance of someone's story? It would pay you to look into the beliefs of the men who were involved and why they would "conspire" to create a symbolic output which is showing the things that it is showing.

In my opinion one can show quite a bit by looking into the power structures that existed in the colonial Governments of New England.  It is similar to what we had here in Nova Scotia (sometimes called the 14th or missing colony). The colonial governments were, very early on, tied to the military regiments. Those military regiments hosted the earliest Freemasonic lodges in North America. That is to say that the Freemasonry came to the New World via the British military regiments, so it was very close to power. You could not get a sniff of political power in the colony here if you were not a Freemason, and certainly not a judge or a public figure.  That eventually ceased to be the case, but the practice of keeping things in-house as much as possible did not die out. Fraternities are, after all, factions of people who help themselves out. They confer advantages. Eventually there came to be a purely distinct American flavor of Freemasonry which had its own narratives. 

What you show is real to the degree that it was existing as a way of thinking for some historically important people. Could they back it up? No. Does it matter? No. The thing is a game, and the point of playing this game is to gain something from the act of recognition. For you to discover the similitudes makes you feel like they must exist for a reason. And, yet, there is no reason that has any causality if things were brought in merely as window dressing. Go to any place where serious and advanced Freemasons keep a presence and ask one what the point of the symbols G is. There is no point in any of the symbols except that you might recognize them and draw your own conclusions. What will you do after you have recognized them? This is something which we can ask ourselves. Many go looking for meaning. 

Was there a strong current of Freemasonry in America? Yes. It was a Protestant nation of British pedigree. Was America created by Freemasons for Freemasons? Hardly. There were many factions trying to set up shop there. As is often the case, the "winners" tend to write the history we have to read. The winners are those who were closest to power and influence. Many had affiliations with Freemasonry, like George Washington. I think you would find that the thing that is most desired is the creation of identity and "Oneness". America Needed to have an identity created for itself which people would equate to the goals of the spiritual man. When one goes about making one (and this applies to any individual) it is about the wearing of symbols. There are many to go and fish from. You would be wise to wear the Tau and to claim you are from a long line of worthy men who stand for the protection of the Holy Royal Arch if you are to be true to that old trope.

Some things exist today only as remnants. Freemasonry is fading. We have new identities now. No one identifies much with the idea of the Christian soldier any more, but these ideas were once quite useful in building a faction.

This number and letter gamesmanship is most famously displayed in the pre Biblical texts where you can also stop and wonder about the point of using this or that symbol. When it was reintroduced in Christianity it was used to capture something already existing.  When we use something which is older we tend to suggest that the current use may have ties to the past. This can seem mysterious to us.

I will end by saying: Congratulations, you have been sucked into the mystery of why we are here trying to figure out a meaning for any of it (life). 

[Luis Quirino]

9 minutes ago, RoyalCraftiness said:

I will end by saying: Congratulations, you have been sucked into the mystery of why we are here trying to figure out a meaning for any of it (life). 

Thanks for your wise and very detailed response.

I'm aware of the "meaning creation" mechanism you speak of. In fact, many secret societies create their own fancy stories of oldness in order to attract possible future candidates or followers, even though, as you said, it is only a 'mask'. Secret societies, esoteric movements and religions / religious cults have always done the same.

However, what I'm trying to do here is to show, through experimentation and verification, in which ways the numerical cipher of the Illuminati may (or may not) have been used to encode secret references into the 1 Dollar bill. Because... fancy stories aside, the fact is that any encryption process is real and can be "reverse engineered" if we know the right key(s) to unlock or decrypt it. So in this case, if the numerical cipher of the Illuminati was used to encode information in the Great Seal of the United States, that would a ground-shaking discovery because it would show that there are parts of history that are not the way we are being told, and maybe more "pieces" of the "puzzle" could be discovered from that conclusion.

So... even though you're right when you talk about the creation of meaning, and (for example) the wearing of symbols in order to 'prove' (as it were) someone else's story, my purpose is a bit more "pragmatic": what I wish to find is not some "meaning" in all this, but in fact I intend to find the historical origins of this cipher (assuming that Weishaupt didn't create it by himself), and if it could have been used to encode information in the Great Seal. Unfortunately, at this time I have no way to actually verify this hypothesis, so that's the main reason why I'm sharing my theory in this forum. Maybe people with more information than me will be able to find something that I've been looking for, at least, during 15 years.

Thanks again for your excellent reply. 🙂

[RoyalCraftiness]

22 minutes ago, Luis Quirino said:

Thanks for your wise and very detailed response.

I'm aware of the "meaning creation" mechanism you speak of. In fact, many secret societies create their own fancy stories of oldness in order to attract possible future candidates or followers, even though, as you said, it is only a 'mask'. Secret societies, esoteric movements and religions / religious cults have always done the same.

However, what I'm trying to do here is to show, through experimentation and verification, in which ways the numerical cipher of the Illuminati may (or may not) have been used to encode secret references into the 1 Dollar bill. Because... fancy stories aside, the fact is that any encryption process is real and can be "reverse engineered" if we know the right key(s) to unlock or decrypt it. So in this case, if the numerical cipher of the Illuminati was used to encode information in the Great Seal of the United States, that would a ground-shaking discovery because it would show that there are parts of history that are not the way we are being told, and maybe more "pieces" of the "puzzle" could be discovered from that conclusion.

So... even though you're right when you talk about the creation of meaning, and (for example) the wearing of symbols in order to 'prove' (as it were) someone else's story, my purpose is a bit more "pragmatic": what I wish to find is not some "meaning" in all this, but in fact I intend to find the historical origins of this cipher (assuming that Weishaupt didn't create it by himself), and if it could have been used to encode information in the Great Seal. Unfortunately, at this time I have no way to actually verify this hypothesis, so that's the main reason why I'm sharing my theory in this forum. Maybe people with more information than me will be able to find something that I've been looking for, at least, during 15 years.

Thanks again for your excellent reply. 🙂

What you mean by experimentation is the collection of similitudes if I am to quote Bacon. You are demonstrating similitudes in the summing of letter counts and values by doing reverse Gematria and degrees of pattern recognition. The question I would pose to you is once you satisfy yourself that a collection of approaches does quite a bit of lifting how will you convince yourself that it was used? Ultimately this will require that people be convinced of something  which they have no proof of. Can elegance substitute for proof? How much of it is needed?

What exactly is it that you allege? Is it that the words found here are chosen to satisfy two numeric conditions (letter count and value)? What if you discovered something that was in fact demonstrable as being possible but not true? What if the same words which number the same in character count summed to the same numbers not accounted for in some random cipher you have not yet considered?  With few words and few expressions it is possible to show that multiple ciphers can produce the same count AND that those counts can be then be equated to similar counts in other words and expressions.  When we are picking similitudes in what amounts to a near infinity of possibilities there will always be compelling ones.

Could you potentially be convinced that only a letter count (like 13 and 33) was of value? Need there be that extra level of encrypted meaning that goes to capture Bacon in some way? This cannot ever satisfy as evidence of some alternate history suggestion. When alternate history is invoked in this fashion alarm bells must ring loudly. Is there perhaps not expressions that sum to 141 that would tell you that aliens are responsible for it all?

We know who we are dealing with. Freemasons invented stories and they had a material culture built around symbol which may or may not be point to existing events. This, unfortunately allows us to go to many places.

I've mentioned it before here, but some have done what you are doing here with the Bible using letter skip sequences and count on the basis that the Hebrews used Gematria (well before the Bible was written and edited). The "experimentation" has famously managed to convince them and others that the entire Bible is coded and capable of prophecy. It is only possible to "verify" that when we go looking for confirmation of known events, though. If we are to tie Bacon to Freemasonry with reverse Gematria are we just capable of that because we are looking for it? The answer to that is yes and no. It could be one or the other, and that cannot count as proof.

I know this is disappointing, but from a purely scientific point of view you are not going to score much doing this.  When we show that something is possible we do not show that it was done. That would be a bad syllogism. This is not to say it wasn't done. It means that we still do not know. A million compelling statements can't tip the case in favor of accepting a bad syllogism. 

I'm not against you doing what you do. It is only normal to be curious and to not know the limitations of what we consider. 

I never did consider why there is that stamp with that denomination. We have to recognize that a very similar "intriguing" case could be made for every number commonly used for stamps. 6, being the monad number, puts it even older than the Biblical/Hebrew suggestions about its symbolic nature.  We could ask: who has the oldest story involving in written history? We could then ask why Bacon was attached to that and not even wonder about the fact that Bacon had nothing to do with that likeness of him appearing on that stamp.

 

[Luis Quirino]

48 minutes ago, RoyalCraftiness said:

Could you potentially be convinced that only a letter count (like 13 and 33) was of value? Need there be that extra level of encrypted meaning that goes to capture Bacon in some way? This cannot ever satisfy as evidence of some alternate history suggestion. When alternate history is invoked in this fashion alarm bells must ring loudly. Is there perhaps not expressions that sum to 141 that would tell you that aliens are responsible for it all?

In fact, that question was precisely the latest thing I (briefly) talked about in my blog:
On ciphers, probabilities, and the search for "meaningful matches"

Which means that, like you rightly said, any cipher will always deliver "meaningful" matches, and we will be able to "prove" anything we want — even something that is plainly wrong or is impossible.

However, in this case I do think there are strong points in favor of my theory/suspicion, since the only mottos having exactly 13 letters add to 169 (or 13x13) in the Illuminati cipher — a result that, though not impossible to recreate with other ciphers, seems to be a little above what we would consider a mere coincidence of values. If there was any encoding process involved in the creation of the Great Seal of the United States, it would have to be supported by many different factors, and my theory seems to conform to this. Anyway, I don't consider the numerical matches I've found to be "proof" of anything, since we cannot prove any claim through "meaningful matches" alone — and that's precisely why I'm looking for the origin of this cipher, and if it was technically possible for that cipher to have been used to encode information in the Great Seal.

[Light-of-Truth]

3 hours ago, RoyalCraftiness said:

In my opinion one can show quite a bit by looking into the power structures that existed in the colonial Governments of New England.  It is similar to what we had here in Nova Scotia (sometimes called the 14th or missing colony).

I never knew that Nova Scotia was called the 14th or missing colony. Being in Pyramid mindset right now, it is especially curious to my ever-connecting mind. 🙂

Hmmm, does that mean the Eye in the floating capstone, the 14th Tier, has a connection to NS?

[RoyalCraftiness]

On 6/5/2023 at 2:35 PM, Light-of-Truth said:

I've been thinking about the Dollar Pyramid quite a bit these past days. We are approaching Day 157 (at Midnight tonight) after passing beyond Two Ts and eleven As in Sonnet 66. Right now as I type we are in the second T, Line 923 of the Sonnets GPT time.

https://www.light-of-truth.com/pyramid-GMT.php#Line0923

Even without combining the Sonnets with the patterns, there is a very Powerful 14x26 tables of numbers.

https://www.light-of-truth.com/keys.htm

If we accept that the Secret Shakespearean Seal numbers, 157 and 287 have any important, then the above table is important as well.

Based on my own time exploring these two numbers, and how they fit into the Sonnets Pyramid, I have felt that Bacon teaches us they are about "Strength and Permanence." I've said that many times here on the B'Hive. I never read it, but "learned" it. I can give you as many examples of the lessons you'd ever wish for.

UNITED STATES is 157 Simple and 287 Kaye ciphers using the modern 26 letter codes.

Just now I read this which gave me a shiver up my spine:

https://www.rd.com/list/dollar-bill-symbols/

Symbol: Pyramid

One of the most eye-catching dollar bill symbols is the pyramid, which represents strength and duration.

In the Sonnets Pyramid, the top of the 13th Tier ends with Line 2001.

Oh my, so much that I have shared that falls of mostly deaf ears.

Luis, if you have a half hour to spare, try to watch me struggle through Part 1 of the Sonnets Pyramid explanation that covers some of the 157/287 connections.

 

Let's go back a bit here if you don't mind. Whoever wrote the Sonnets knew nothing of there being 13 future American colonies down the road, so clearly someone would have to later have seen a similarity with something preexisting and been inspired by it to point it out. What you are showing is that there is a possibility to extract a similitude between the divisors of 364 and 154. The choice of 364 will make the end result nearly map to a calendar year.

154- 1, 2, 7, 11, 14, 22, 77, 154

364-1, 2, 4, 7, 13, 14, 26, 28, 52, 91, 182, 364

Neither 154 or 365 is a triangular number, meaning that we cannot have a face of a square based pyramid representing them. 

In dividing the pyramid in levels one could presumably take any of the divisors of 364. It will be more elegant if we choose a divisor which is common to both 364 and 154 (7 or 14).

364/14=26, almost but not quite 27 (the side length of the perfect ashlar)

154/14=11

Your pyramid has tranches of 26 days mapping to 11 Sonnets. In terms of number of lines, 2155 lines/14=153.93 which is similar enough to 154 to suggest that the number of lines is made to be divisible by 14 while returning 154 from which 14 was potentially chosen. That can be seen as elegant self reference.

14 x 364 = 25 480 which is similar to the precession cycle in years so we can extend the similarities to even that. 

What happens if we use 7 levels in the pyramid instead?

364/7=52 and that is similar to the base angle of the triangular face of the Great Pyramid (51.82 degrees)

154/7=22, similar to the the day (the 22nd day of the year) Bacon was born on.

Your pyramid face would then have 7 tranches of 52 days mapping to 22 Sonnets.

that is similar to 52 weeks of 7 days.

So what was intended?

If I understand correctly you favor 14 levels because of the near divisibility of 2155 by 14 and because that fraction is equal to near 154. But can we not see just as much elegance in 7 and still retain a daily calendar?

I'm a bit interested in the fact that the numbers in play are very similar to the partition function in mathematics which gives the sequence:1, 1, 2, 3, 5, 7, 11, 15, 22... and that we may be seeing something that is trying to map onto 25900 with its divisors of 1, 2, 5, 7, 10, 14, 35, 37, 70, 74, 185, 259, 370, 518, 1295, and 2590. The fact you are seeing 7 and 14 here should make you suspicious that it is in fact a great year that is possibly being looked at. 

It's also interesting that 2155 has 2 prime divisors in 5 and 431.  We can partition 5 levels into 4 tiers of 431. 4x431=1724. I'll just arbitrarily substract 1 and show that this is similar to the year of the arrival of Scottish rite Freemasonry onto the scene (a year allegedly predicted by the "fiery trigon"). 

What is the precise intention of the number 2155? If we are to look only to near elegance to determine that then I feel I must submit that this number is extremely close to the precession cycle divided by 12, so the length in years of each constellation's rein before the next one rises at the equinox to signal a change of astronomical ages. This is a great theme in astrology, and it is captured by the fact that Christ allegedly arrived with the age of Pisces which was to be dominated by the Vesica Piscis's numerology (1080 and some of its divisors, and 153 which is close to 1080 divided by 7). It takes 13 stops to define 12 intervals on a cycle.

Can we really say what was precisely intended?

If we were to pair this sort of consideration with the Sonnets dedication, is it not also possible  to show there that all the triangular hubbub revolves around 9x8 which is the number of years for one degree of precession to occur? Isn't that not also the number of the names of the Hebrew God and the angle commonly associated with the five pointed star and the pentagon? Don't the word counts there equal the length of the precession cycle when multiplied? Are there not 5 polar stars in the precession cycle with which we can see a similitude? Are they not like five stops on a rough looking pentagon/star drawn onto a circle?

My head hurts...When we build the case with what is parallel and similar, and we also allow fudging, many elegant things are possible.

If we are to stick to the obsessions of the time around the appearance of the 3 aligned Novas we can start to make a case for the Rosicrucian suggestions being exactly that type of exercise. It makes sense for the year 1609 to have had works with astronomical symbolism in them, because that was what "rational" men were considering. We can think of it as a powerful current of thinking. It's clearly on the heels of the last of the appearances in 1604.

When we look to the stars we can see larger patterns, and they seem to tell us that the Universe is perhaps running on a harmonic clockwork. Except it isn't...It is just a very good approximation to think it is when we lack the knowledge to know better. Today we can look back and that and see what some were trying to tease out of the count (a deeper meaning hinting at precise planning).

The entire thing is not helped by the fact that a year in days happens to almost be a triangular number. This wants to push us to equate it to a pyramid's face.  Our Freemason friends cherished that cube of 3, 27 (on the base corner of the Tetractys side which sums to 40 where 40 is fittingly a pyramidal number) and we can only really come close to it with 26 and 28 (14 in 2:1) when we play with 364 and 154. Perhaps that was close enough to be elegant to the founders. Suffice to say that some things almost compute and that some things can be made to compute. It is a fact that the USA could not have had 13.5 colonies. 14 lines define 13 intervals after all. Somehwere between the two is the 13.5. Maybe the "eye" is supposed to represent that 13.5, being in the center of the pyramidion.

If we are honest we must state that the pyramid can also be equated to the globe via the hemispheres with poles which can be accounted for by the octahedron which is the pyramid in 2:1 proportion. Were these suggestions also supposed to get us wondering about harmony on the globe? Again, this is something we can explore. Sylva Sylvarum suggests it with experiment 222. There are some very elegant demonstrations that one can make to show that we can involve a prime Meridien at Jerusalem with a beacon in the New World while respecting some preferential ratios that are in music and Plato's divide line which exploits the golden mean. Was it intended? If it was, does it have a meaning beyond an elegant demonstration? Bacon could have done it, but then again, so could others. Do we involve him with the appearance of 11 and 22 or with 67 and 33? Can we remove William Shakespeare from the equation? It's not that easy. Shakespeare had patrons. He could have allowed anyone to control the production of the title page and dedication. We simply do not know enough about the relationships to declare that any man ought to be discarded. It does seem to suggest that there was some degree of intent that does not make sense for Shakespeare to include.

Bacon did have a vision for the New World. It is not far fetched to say that others later saw him as a "rational" father figure. What we do not know is if these Masons created a mythology in Bacon's name. If they did it would be consistent with other sorts of inventions which appropriated persons from the past. We we must realize is that there are no links back to Bacon through Freemasonry's history. He may have served as an inspiration like the crusader knights served as an inspiration. Identity is everything when you are trying to show yourself. You may want to use what is most useful to you. Just saying...Until we have historians that back some claims we would be wise to consider all the possibilities. I would have great reservations in saying that Bacon wanted anything that later occurred in America. It makes sense to exploit his idealism about it, though.

Always fun.

 

 

 

 

 

Edited June 6 by RoyalCraftiness

[Luis Quirino]

22 hours ago, Light-of-Truth said:

Luis, if you have a half hour to spare, try to watch me struggle through Part 1 of the Sonnets Pyramid explanation that covers some of the 157/287 connections.

I admire the amount of work you've put into the 14-Tiered Pyramid, but sometimes it's a bit too dense for me. Anyway, I enjoy studying the structure you've found, but I'm still not sure about the relative importance of all the 157's and 287's we can find in the 11- and 14-letter ciphers in the Sonnets. And the reason why I say this is because, mathematically speaking, some of those matches will be inevitable, considering that we're working with the Simple, Reverse, Short and Kaye ciphers (i.e. ciphers with relatively low values).

Take an example with the Illuminati cipher:

The 11-letter cipher of Sonnet 141 (="Francis Bacon" in the Illuminati cipher) adds to 157 in the same cipher, and its first two letters are "FB" (the full cipher is "FBWNNNTBDWT"). Even though this looks too good to be true, the fact is that this match could have occurred naturally. But then — how can we know for sure when a numerical match is a natural coincidence rather than a man-made coincidence, or vice-versa? That's why I'm in love with Gematria — but somehow, I'm also extremely skeptical about it.

This, of course, isn't intended to be an attack on your work. Quite on the contrary, it's with innovating ideas like yours that sometimes we can find many wonderful patterns, or even encoded things that are "hidden in plain sight". Please don't take me wrong! 😅 If your work has shown you some good results, then please don't stop it!

P.S.: Have you noticed that "UNITED COLONIES" sums 157 in the Simple cipher?

[RoyalCraftiness]

19 hours ago, Light-of-Truth said:

I never knew that Nova Scotia was called the 14th or missing colony. Being in Pyramid mindset right now, it is especially curious to my ever-connecting mind. 🙂

Hmmm, does that mean the Eye in the floating capstone, the 14th Tier, has a connection to NS?

There were crazed Freemasons wanting that, yes. Nova Scotia had a large New England population dating to a 1761-63 migration which attempted to repopulate the territory after the French speaking Acadian population had been deported.  A "war" did break out after Jonathan Eddy attempted to capture Nova Scotia for the USA. However, he was not monetarily supported by the Continental Congress who wished him luck, but not much more. He instead tried recruiting the French and the natives to the cause as he "invaded" . The fact the poorly supported  Eddy rebellion was quickly crushed caused many a New England Planter settler to Nova Scotia to have their loyalties questioned by the British Loyalists in the territory. In fact, it is why many of the early grantees at Oak Island and other parts of Nova Scotia opted to return to the USA in these years. The pro USA settlers were simply not well tolerated. It created an exodus that made land available for the Loyalists. My Rhode Island ancestors were chased out of NS about this time. It is a mere footnote in North American history, but it was an important source of tension here between the English speaking factions.

Incidentally, Sam Ball was able to petition the colonial government for land at OI precisely because it had been abandoned. The condition was that he had to pay any taxes owning and that he would farm the land. In subsequent years he added to his holding by doing cabbage farming. In time he acquired quite a bit of land that made him land rich by the time he died. The fermented cabbage (kraut) went to supply the garrison at Halifax, it was an excellent foodstuff for mariners and to keep the local natives in reserves  from starving. The merchant he had business with was a German, Casper Wollenhaupt, from nearby Lunenburg. It is the same nan who sold Smith his parcel/lot 18 in 1795 which later became ground zero for the Money pit legends in the 1840s. You will notice in all this that no one got rich from treasure and that no three boys ever sailed to OI to discover a treasure shaft. What did ensue at OI was more of the same Masonic fabrication that revolves around misrepresented history.  The pit legend at OI was made to represent the mythical Enoch's shaft. The discovery of a flat stone there was to be an omen for the end times. By including these details an investment syndicate was able to capture the North American Millerite frenzy around the predicted 1843 and, subsequently, 1844 second coming. After that story fizzled it later reappeared as a pirate treasure story. Later it became a Bacon document cache suggestion when Constance Pott popularized that theory in the 1890s. In stayed that until about the 1930s. Today it is all over the map, but never very far from a conspiracy theory to rewrite history.

Edited June 6 by RoyalCraftiness

[Light-of-Truth]

2 hours ago, RoyalCraftiness said:

...Your pyramid face would then have 7 tranches of 52 days mapping to 22 Sonnets.

that is similar to 52 weeks of 7 days.

So what was intended?

Yes, the 7 Tiered Pyramid.

There are indeed many ways to divide 364 into "Tiers". (Tiers is just my way of seeing and explaining the divisions). Below is a table that shows some and a little on how they related to each other.

https://www.light-of-truth.com/pyras10.htm

It is a topic all its own with some fascinating coincidences. And as you, CJ, and Luis are aware it is just math and how things work out.

As far as the Sonnets and the ciphers, there does seem to be some intended coincidences emerge.

For example, today is Day 157 of the year. It begins with Sonnet 67. I mentioned the eleven letter Simple cipher of Sonnet 67 is 111.

Sonnet 29 begins right after Day 67 begins. The Simple cipher of all 14 letters of Sonnet 29 is 157 and the eleven letter Simple cipher of Sonnet 29 is 111.

See the coincidence? Sonnet 67 starts with Day 157 and a 111, Day 67 starts Sonnet 29 with a 157 and 111.

https://www.light-of-truth.com/pyramid-GMT.php#cipherSonnet029

The 365 Kaye cipher of Sonnet 29 reinforces the Pyramid design in my mind. In fact when I first started to explore the design this was one of Keys that kept me going deeper.

Yann and I have kicked around the 11 and 111 Sonnet cipher ball here on the B'Hive a few times, so I won't spend time on it now. But there are some curious relationships, or coincidences lets say. 🙂

I've spent some respectable time exploring the 26 Tier design. It is basically diving the 364 table into 26 Tiers of 14 Days each. The only point where the Sonnets sync with the Days is at the halfway point at the end of the 13th Tier on Day 182. Day 183 starts the second half.

ONE EIGHTY TWO = 157 Simple and 287 Kaye ciphers.

ONE EIGHTY THREE = 157 Simple and 365 Kaye ciphers.

Those are the halfway point Days of the 14, 22, and 28 Tiered designs as well. (Of course any even numbered Design would be the same).

The 7 and 14 Tier designs are the ones where Days, Tiers, and Sonnets perfectly sync at every transition.  The 7 Tier design has 52 Days in each Tier and the 14 Tier design has 26 Days in each Tier. Again that is just math, but the ciphers add a sparkle. I suspect they are intended by Bacon and maybe a few of his fun cipher pals, but they could be merely random curiosities. After studying the design when I first started to explore it, there were times I could make an educated guess on what cipher I should see at a certain Sonnet or Day number and then I'd look and verify my hunch. If those were only coincidences, then what a cruel joke they were. When one can predict a coincidence based on what one has already seen, what is that called? LOL

Day 157 starts 13th Tier in the 28 Tier design. That design is 28 Tiers with 13 Days in each one.

In the 14 Tier design the 13th Tier begins with Sonnet 133 on Day 313. The eleven letter cipher of Sonnet 133 is 102.

ONE HUNDRED TWO is 157 Simple and 287 Kaye ciphers.

The very last Line of the 13th Tier is Line 2001.

TWO THOUSAND ONE is 287 Simple and 365 Kaye ciphers.

To me that is a cool way of Sealing the 13th Tier. 157 > 287 > 365 numbers kind of tell the whole Pyramid story for me. So we already have a mathematical pattern that works by itself, then cipher numbers possibly included by human intent to emphasize and reinforce what we are already seeing mathematically.

It is so fascinating to me! And even after 22 years I still find new connections and relationships.

 

 

[RoyalCraftiness]

6 minutes ago, Light-of-Truth said:

Yes, the 7 Tiered Pyramid.

There are indeed many ways to divide 364 into "Tiers". (Tiers is just my way of seeing and explaining the divisions). Below is a table that shows some and a little on how they related to each other.

https://www.light-of-truth.com/pyras10.htm

It is a topic all its own with some fascinating coincidences. And as you, CJ, and Luis are aware it is just math and how things work out.

As far as the Sonnets and the ciphers, there does seem to be some intended coincidences emerge.

For example, today is Day 157 of the year. It begins with Sonnet 67. I mentioned the eleven letter Simple cipher is 111.

Sonnet 29 begins right after Day 67. The Simple cipher of all 14 letters of Sonnet 29 is 157 and the eleven letter Simple cipher is 111.

See the coincidence? Sonnet 67 starts with Day 157 and a 111, Day 67 starts Sonnet 29 with a 157 and 111.

https://www.light-of-truth.com/pyramid-GMT.php#cipherSonnet029

The 365 Kaye cipher of Sonnet 29 reinforces the Pyramid design in my mind. In fact when I first started to explore the design this was one of Keys that kept me going deeper.

Yann and I have kicked around the 11 and 111 Sonnet cipher ball here on the B'Hive a few times, so I won't spend time on it now. But there are some curious relationships, or coincidences lets say. 🙂

I've spent some respectable time exploring the 26 Tier design. It is basically diving the 365 table into 26 Tiers of 14 Days each. The only point where the Sonnets sync with the Days is at the halfway point at the end of the 13th Tier on Day 182. Day 183 starts the second half.

ONE EIGHTY TWO = 157 Simple and 287 Kaye ciphers.

ONE EIGHTY THREE = 157 Simple and 365 Kaye ciphers.

Those are the halfway point Days of the 14, 22, and 28 Tiered designs as well. (Of course any even numbered Design would be the same).

The 7 and 14 Tier designs are the ones where Days, Tiers, and Sonnets perfectly sync at every transition.  The 7 Tier design has 52 Days in each Tier and the 14 Tier design has 26 Days in each Tier. Again that is just math, but the ciphers add a sparkle. I suspect they are intended by Bacon and maybe a few of his fun cipher pals, but they could be merely random curiosities. After studying the design when I first started to explore it, there were times I could make an educated guess on what cipher I should see at a certain Sonnet or Day number and then I'd look and verify my hunch. If those were only coincidences, then what a cruel joke they were. When one can predict a coincidence based on what one has already seen, what is that called? LOL

Day 157 starts 13th Tier in the 28 Tier design. That design is 28 Tiers with 13 Days in each one.

In the 14 Tier design the 13th Tier begins with Sonnet 133 on Day 313. The eleven letter cipher of Sonnet 133 is 102.

ONE HUNDRED TWO is 157 Simple and 287 Kaye ciphers.

The very last Line of the 13th Tier is Line 2001.

TWO THOUSAND ONE is 287 Simple and 365 Kaye ciphers.

To me that is a cool way of Sealing the 13th Tier. 157 > 287 > 365 numbers kind of tell the whole Pyramid story for me. So we already have a mathematical pattern that works by itself, then cipher numbers possibly included by human intent to emphasize and reinforce what we are already seeing mathematically.

It is so fascinating to me! And even after 22 years I still find new connections and relationships.

 

 

You have shown a level of elegance in all this and that is what ultimately is supposed to add up to a convincing case for something, but what? The question remains regarding how much elegance it takes for us to attach the idea that Bacon did it or that he wrote the Sonnets? That is a leap beyond what is shown.

I do suspect that a great deal of consideration was given to the 24 character alphabet as a 5x5 square, and of its numbering possibilities. It's too much like the games with magic squares to think that men were not playing with it. As you know there are things to show there that would want to suggest that even the simple cipher is a preferential choice of cipher. But it is not, so there must be a degree of coincidence in the fact that squares and their constituent numbered positions can somehow be made to relate to a triangle with its constituent numbered positions. 2 equilateral triangles do indeed give us a square, and that is the 2:1 relationship we often see (as with 7 and 14). 

There are relationships with the pyramid to triangular faces, squares,  the golden mean, pi and octahedrons. The deeper you dig into the relationship of the figurate numbers the more amazing it all seems.  Assuming we were the ones discovering this, would it not be possible for us to try and attach a meaning to what comes out of the properties of numbers?

Do you think it is possible that someone also noticed that 25900 was nearly divisible by 7 and 14? 

What is the smallest triangular number that has divisors 7 and 14 and which would work perfectly to relate it to a triangular face? The smallest is 28, the next one after that is 210.  154 is divisible by 7 and 14, but it is not triangular. There is also 378 which is triangular and divisible by 14 and 7. If we explore why 25900 almost works we will find that the 227th triangular number is 25878. That would make a great pyramid face. 

It does appear that someon was enamored with 153 enough to favor using 154. It's not maximum elegance, though!

[Light-of-Truth]

3 hours ago, RoyalCraftiness said:

You have shown a level of elegance in all this and that is what ultimately is supposed to add up to a convincing case for something, but what?

On October 14, 2003 (Day 287) I would have said with confidence that my "discovery" was going to make a huge Shock through the world. That was the day I launched Light-of-Truth.com where for the first time in our Western history the name "William Tudor" was mentioned in public as being the same man as "Francis Bacon". It was something I worked on for a few months, planning for a few years. A small handful of us knew what I was working on, but I stayed away from technology and publicity while I first dug into Bacon's mysteries.

First hard lesson was the world did not turn upside down, at all. My "public" world was overwhelmed by vicious and experienced Stratfordian predators. Very few, if any ever read my presentation.

The presentation was not all well done. I had a few years graphics and web design experience, but was in my first semester of real college (not a University). 25 years of fixing all kinds of typewriters, cash registers, banking system machines, mini computers, calculators, dictating machines, adding machines, and Koo-Koo Clocks that anyone brought to me as a Machine Shaman did not help when sharing the discover I had. 

LOL !!

I had two email messages that satisfied me. First was an elderly Freemason "Ancient Past Master" or some title that sounded good to me. He was in his 80s, and he just wanted to "validate" what I had found. He was from Massachusetts, last name "Whaler" or Whaley", something like that.

Same kind of email came from someone with a similar intro from New York. I assumed the two knew each other. How many elderly Freemasons were on my website? Back then it was easy to be on the top of search engines. SirBacon.org was always number 1! Light-of-Truth was 2 or 3 often, always in the top 5. 🙂

The response was 90% aggressive and angry. I was eaten alive and spit out. Lawrence watched and had been warning me. He has witnessed many of us end up in lake of boiling Stratforn*** mud. 🙂

Some of the same Willy Warrior names are still active, on videos even into these days! Oxies had not found their lucky Movie Star, Hollywood, Silly Money clique yet. They appeared later. Or the places I visited had already been purged of the flatulence of DeVere. No doubt the Strat wolves found me an easy snack!

You ask on Day 157 in 2023 "...,but what?"

My answer:

Well, I'm not going to prove that Bacon was born as William Tudor and wrote Shakespeare. Once upon a time, oh what a dream...

There are two parts to what I found. The first part to me is a fairly easy to understand table of numbers. 14 columns, 26 rows. The table is a full 364 cells (Excel talk). We can take one cell further and label it 365, the 15th column, in the "A" row. In our modern 26 letter alphabet the 15th letter is O. So 365 is O? Do I need to go into it? Not right now. But remember this Withers image:

The second part is my unique Bacon story in the ciphers. I'm not convincing the world right now.

Before I learned about Bacon I knew nothing about Shakespeare. I had heard of Freemasons, but no clue. Rosicrucians? I think I remember ads in comic books when I was a kid?

6 hours ago, RoyalCraftiness said:

...so there must be a degree of coincidence in the fact that squares and their constituent numbered positions can somehow be made to relate to a triangle with its constituent numbered positions.

I think I am good with math, but there is so much I do not know. That's why I appreciate a teacher now and then.

So my purpose in my older age is to present the "first" part, the mathematical part. Anyone can argue my Baconian perspective which is nothing I could ever prove as the part "two", but the math works impeccably and even without the Sonnets is an interesting table of numbers if you consider the numbers 157 and 287 have importance.

CJ, you tossed out a lot of very close relationships, but you even admit this 11/14/26/154/364 table is not something known, much less an accepted concept. Yet very near many ideas that are close.

I want to clear the air, I know nothing about the things you speak. I am fascinated and have actually learned a lot from your replies, but nobody has ever shared these mathematical things to me before. I love numbers , so devour as much as I can.

Before I discovered this table I had looked into Agrippa and other old "Magic" tables. Always intriguing, always got my attention.

A 14 x 26 table never appeared. A 14 x 11 neither did. The two combined, never came up.

CJ, and anybody else who might be curious, if we forget everything we ever knew about numbers and started to learn with this table, what would we discover? That is pretty much where I have been for two decades.