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23 minutes ago, A Phoenix said:

Good Evening Wonder Wizard of B'Hve,

The complexity and intricacy of the identifications and connections are truly astonishing. You have produced a masterclass in cryptologcial and annagrammatical analysis, delivered with the coherency that only a master of his subject can, with such sublime panache and modesty which pays fulsome tribute to your unique character & personality. Bravo! Bravo! Bravo!♥️👍😍

Good evening A Phoenix,

My hearfelt thanks for your warm comment ! ❤️❤️❤️ I am really pleased that you like it!  Many thanks once again.

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3 hours ago, Allisnum2er said:

Hello everyone,

I am very happy to share with you today my last video on Francis bacon's wit (Part 1).

This first part is my take on "Ben Jonson" 's Poem.

Wow.

If we ever share a couple computers in a place with tasty snacks and whatevers, you can be Bacon and I'll be Jonson. I am sure I'd feel like our Ben did hanging out with the hog.

Excellent, and a perfect timing. But you are in Sync, always.

Love it! Excellent!

Look forward to being one of your friends and enjoying your future unfold during the rest of my life! A hundred years from now, humans who see behind the veil Will be reading your works. And I knew you back then (now). LOL

<-- 1881 -->

<-- ShaKAshA -->

Tip: Say ShaKAshA with an emphasis on the middle KA (kah). Lead in with the Sha (1881) from the past and project into the future with shA (1881). That's a  true secret, luckily nobody will know WTF I am talking about!

<-- 18811011881 -->

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See you into Eternity and beyond, Yann!

 

 

 

 

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9 minutes ago, Light-of-Truth said:

Wow.

If we ever share a couple computers in a place with tasty snacks and whatevers, you can be Bacon and I'll be Jonson. I am sure I'd feel like our Ben did hanging out with the hog.

Excellent, and a perfect timing. But you are in Sync, always.

Love it! Excellent!

Look forward to being one of your friends and enjoying your future unfold during the rest of my life! A hundred years from now, humans who see behind the veil Will be reading your works. And I knew you back then (now). LOL

<-- 1881 -->

<-- ShaKAshA -->

Tip: Say ShaKAshA with an emphasis on the middle KA (kah). Lead in with the Sha (1881) from the past and project into the future with shA (1881). That's a  true secret, luckily nobody will know WTF I am talking about!

<-- 18811011881 -->

😉

See you into Eternity and beyond, Yann!

 

 

 

 

Many thanks my friend !🙏❤️ I'm touched ! Now I'm looking forward to finishing the making of the other parts. 😊

And thank you for the tip ! By the way , I just realized that one of children's favorite game, hide and seek, is called cache-cache in French, a game that now I will spell KASH-KASH ! 😉 

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Greetings High Wizard of B'Hive,

As always you bring into Baconian light things that have remained concealed and hidden from everyone else's eyes for centuries and in perpetuity your name will be for ever aligned with the name of the Great One.♥️♥️♥️ 

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On 3/11/2023 at 3:19 PM, RoyalCraftiness said:

 

Is there an app that lists all multiple word expressions that would satisfy this?

I feel that would show something that might weaken the suggestion that there is something special going on.  What if we noticed that the possibilities for using any words were so large that the satisfying of 3 additional conditions still produced many suggestions.  As far as I can tell, only useful word suggestions that are consistent with a desirable confirmation of an idea are being considered. How on earth would one guess the multi-word expression and get it right when there so many possibilities to consider?

There are what is considered to be an infinite number of word combinations of the approximately 170 000 English words. From that subset we would need to consider all those that have 14 characters.  This is still a large number. 

As a quick exercise, I find that it is not that hard to produce a two word 14 letter count. It is possible by frequency of letter usage to estimate what the average value of each letter is. If we used just a mean value for 24 letters that would be about 12.5. The skewing of vowels to lower values means that this value is less.  We can ballpark what an "average" choice would return to values around the number you have arrived to. That would seem to indicate to me that there are many potential 2 word combination of 14 words that will add up to 158. We would be looking for the subset of those which also satisfy a couple more ciphers, but each of those is also prone to returning a value around what you show by virtue of them being derived by a rule from the first. What this means is that there is a certain likelihood that a 158 in one cipher will return a certain value in another.

So, how likely is it that Elizabeth Tudor is intended even if it works? If I added a fifth cipher would it work? Why focus on these four? Is this spelled out somewhere? Who established this method of approaching the text?

For reasons you must by now understand, I don't have the statistical tools to answer these questions. Intuitively, I understand that it's not as clear cut as it seems. There are other things which we can show (which are demonstrable) that lend themselves to being considered in a way that is more tangible. Treating words empirically is complicated. Treating word combination subjectively is not going to generate unique suggestions. 

The weakest of all possible arguments will come from the interpretation of the meaning of symbols. That is magnified in a text which is bathed in many symbols. The range of what we can suggest is not small. 

What is possibly meant by Sun is not unique. If we extend that to son, which it is not, it grows larger. Is the Queen more likely to be a queen of our choosing or the moon in the context of alchemy? It really depends if we want to accept context clues from the text or not. We are free to choose our terms, and that is a problem. It can allow us to mage generalizations saying things like: such and such a play is actually veiled telling of the lives of people we suggest. Is it?

Who established this method of approaching the text? 

Maybe Roger Bacon?

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1 hour ago, peethagoras said:

Who established this method of approaching the text? 

Maybe Roger Bacon?

If we are talking about gematria, it goes way back. 🙂

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gematria

History

The first documented use of gematria is from an Assyrian inscription dating to the 8th century BCE, commissioned by Sargon II. In this inscription, Sargon II states: "the king built the wall of Khorsabad 16,283 cubits long to correspond with the numerical value of his name."[8]

 

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20 hours ago, Light-of-Truth said:

Its hard to even say anything as you left me speechless! You definitely demonstrate the three 33s and page 33. Excellent!

You always pierce the cloak and speak for Pallas Athena!

Many thanks Rob ! ❤️ I look forward to sharing with you the other parts of the series with their shares of surprises !😉 The 3rd part is in progress ! 😊

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10 hours ago, A Phoenix said:

Greetings High Wizard of B'Hive,

As always you bring into Baconian light things that have remained concealed and hidden from everyone else's eyes for centuries and in perpetuity your name will be for ever aligned with the name of the Great One.♥️♥️♥️ 

Hi A Phoenix,

I don't know what to say, except my heartfelt thanks for your moving comment !🙏❤️

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49 minutes ago, Light-of-Truth said:

The Immortal Allisnum2er, Yann! 🙂

As long as people talk about Shakespeare, your name will always be alive!

 Thank you again Rob ❤️ I am touched and at the same time I think that it is too much praise . I am just a Bacon enthusiast as each of us, happy to bring my contribution . For me , there will always be only two Immortals  ... The Great One and  ... Connor Mc Leod !😊

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9 minutes ago, Allisnum2er said:

 Thank you again Rob ❤️ I am touched and at the same time I think that it is too much praise . I am just a Bacon enthusiast as each of us, happy to bring my contribution . For me , there will always be only two Immortals  ... The Great One and  ... Connor Mc Leod !😊

I'm hoping the B'Hive will be immortal as well. 🙂

It may depend on how the Internet Archive lawsuit pans out. I know I'd be very sad to see the Wayback Machine and the online facsimile treasures go away forever!

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8 minutes ago, Light-of-Truth said:

I'm hoping the B'Hive will be immortal as well. 🙂

It may depend on how the Internet Archive lawsuit pans out. I know I'd be very sad to see the Wayback Machine and the online facsimile treasures go away forever!

🤞🤞🤞 I keep my fingers crossed for the Internet Archive lawsuit. I'm hoping the B'Hive to be ETERNAL !

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53 minutes ago, Light-of-Truth said:

I'm hoping the B'Hive will be immortal as well. 🙂

It may depend on how the Internet Archive lawsuit pans out. I know I'd be very sad to see the Wayback Machine and the online facsimile treasures go away forever!

Indeed, this would be a tragedy for researchers around the world.

 https://www.gizmodo.com.au/2023/03/internet-archive-faces-uphill-battle-in-lawsuit-over-its-free-digital-library/

https://blog.archive.org/2022/10/17/the-cdl-lawsuit-and-the-future-of-libraries/

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7 minutes ago, Eric Roberts said:

A library can buy a book, put it on their shelf for me to read. I can walk in, grab the book and read it for free. I can also walk over to the copier and copy some pages, and take photos with my iPhone.

There may be times, if the book is available for purchase that I might buy a copy for my own library.

Its hard for me to drive, park, and go to a library, so I like to research from my home. Internet Archive has been a wonderful resource.

I respect copyright, but if a library can share to anyone, why can't an online library do the same thing?

I know its more complicated than that.

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Hi everyone,

I've just made a great discovery ! 😊

I was looking for a specific Frontispiece for a project I am working on for the 400th anniversary of the First Folio, and among the images of many frontispieces, one of them immediatly caught my attention.

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https://books.google.fr/books?id=juygAAAAMAAJ&printsec=frontcover&hl=fr&source=gbs_ge_summary_r&cad=0#v=onepage&q&f=false

I immediatly noticed that Pallas Athena was pointing to the Title of the Book, and I noticed in acrostic :

CAPIT (Latin root for "The Head") and BACON.

Then I noticed the 6 rings in the furniture behind Pallas with 3 rings in the Light and 3 rings in the Dark.

33 = BACON

Then I realised that on the left it was Chronos/Time

"Time reveals the hidden truth"

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Beside Pallas we have Apollo with his Harp.

Could all this be just a coincidence ?

I decided to explore quicky the book and here is what I found ...

Apollo with his Harp appears on Emblem ... 177 ! 😁

177 = WILLIAM SHAKESPEARE

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The Emblems 33 (BACON) and 67 (FRANCIS) are also very interesting ! 🙂 

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The  Emblem 67 is used a second time as Emblem ... 154 (Sonnets?)

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Strangely, on Planche 77 (Minerva-simple cipher) the two emblems are not numbered.

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The Janus-like figure of Emblem 147 is said to be FAMA/RUMOR.

The Emblem 148 is ... FORTUNA. and who is the Will/Wheel of FORTUNE ?

WILLIAM TUDOR = 148 (Simple cipher)

I also love Emblem 53 (SWAN-POET-SOW simple cipher)

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ARION 🙂 

By the way, Emblem 180 gives us a good representation of the Dolphin's Head we discussed about in another thread few days ago. 😉 

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And to conclude, this quick analysis, here is the Planche 33 ...

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CERES and ... PEGASUS !

😊

 

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5 hours ago, Allisnum2er said:

Hi everyone,

I've just made a great discovery ! 😊

I was looking for a specific Frontispiece for a project I am working on for the 400th anniversary of the First Folio, and among the images of many frontispieces, one of them immediatly caught my attention.

image.png.c8e3a33c732929eda7a27c2ad9abbb65.png

https://books.google.fr/books?id=juygAAAAMAAJ&printsec=frontcover&hl=fr&source=gbs_ge_summary_r&cad=0#v=onepage&q&f=false

I immediatly noticed that Pallas Athena was pointing to the Title of the Book, and I noticed in acrostic :

CAPIT (Latin root for "The Head") and BACON.

Then I noticed the 6 rings in the furniture behind Pallas with 3 rings in the Light and 3 rings in the Dark.

33 = BACON

Then I realised that on the left it was Chronos/Time

"Time reveals the hidden truth"

1*YlTGU7zxuaCLqrT5WBQ0mg.gif

Beside Pallas we have Apollo with his Harp.

Could all this be just a coincidence ?

I decided to explore quicky the book and here is what I found ...

Apollo with his Harp appears on Emblem ... 177 ! 😁

177 = WILLIAM SHAKESPEARE

image.png.92c40c396af0eaa6bfe398f7047f8837.png

The Emblems 33 (BACON) and 67 (FRANCIS) are also very interesting ! 🙂 

image.png.d402e2737aac94b082ef506a9aa0aa0f.png       image.png.d0f92fe99f0691c897826d9e3a5120a6.png

The  Emblem 67 is used a second time as Emblem ... 154 (Sonnets?)

image.png.6b7981371e6678122a08f9a06c5d9ae6.png

Strangely, on Planche 77 (Minerva-simple cipher) the two emblems are not numbered.

image.png.10edea614f22c89e1dd4da3fcf18b809.png

The Janus-like figure of Emblem 147 is said to be FAMA/RUMOR.

The Emblem 148 is ... FORTUNA. and who is the Will/Wheel of FORTUNE ?

WILLIAM TUDOR = 148 (Simple cipher)

I also love Emblem 53 (SWAN-POET-SOW simple cipher)

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ARION 🙂 

By the way, Emblem 180 gives us a good representation of the Dolphin's Head we discussed about in another thread few days ago. 😉 

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And to conclude, this quick analysis, here is the Planche 33 ...

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CERES and ... PEGASUS !

😊

 

Greetings Yannus the Great! Just wondering why the frontispiece of your remarkable find is dated 1778, whereas the portrait of Abrahamus Gorlaeus (or Van Goorle), c. 1549 – 1608, is inscribed MDCI / 1601? It must be a posthumous copy from a contemporary engraving (see below).

We can't wait for your First Folio project to appear...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abraham_Gorlaeus

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The more you look the more there is to see.

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Thank you Eric ! 🙏 ❤️ You should like the video which I am in the process of preparing for the 400th Anniversary.

It will be almost all about Art! 😉

And well spotted !!! Great finding ❤️

I totally missed the date of the engraving yesterday.

I was most interested in the quote by Hugo Grotius because he is involved in my video 😅.

He was a contemporary of Francis Bacon, and a Child prodigy like him.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hugo_Grotius

He is mentionned in The Great Assises holden in Parnassus (1645)

https://sirbacon.org/apollo.htm

And here is another interesting article from Baconiana talking  about his escape from Loevestein Castle in 1621.

https://sirbacon.org/archives/baconiana/1919-1921 Baconiana No 61-63.pdf

(Hugo Grotius and the Merry Wives of Windsor - page 62)

Have a good day !

 

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Hi everyone,

I am so happy to share with you a new unexpected discovery related with Bacon's Wit !!!🤩

A Phoenix, your great Topic about "Like Will to like

https://sirbacon.org/bacon-forum/index.php?/topic/85-the-first-play-of-francis-bacon-shakespeare-written-when-he-was-seven-years-old/

reminded me Sonnet 143.

One year ago, I shared with you my first take on it ...

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Recently, I shared with you what I found in the middle (mediocria firma) of the Sonnet ...

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Th' Swan flies - Hidden Poet

I remind you that the values of the letters in acrostic add to 177 (WILLIAM SHAKESPEARE simple cipher).

And here is what I have just discovered. 😊

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A question came to my mind :

"What happens if I rearrange the verses of the Sonnet in order to spell "HIDDEN POET" correctly?"

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Once the letters in mesostich are in the correct order, a new message appears in acrostich ! 😃

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SOW - BACON'S WIT - Fils (French word for Son)

Francis Bacon , the Hidden (Conceal'd) Poet, was Will Shake-speare , the Swan, and

The Son Of the Widow, Queen Elizabeth (143 simple cipher).

😊

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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59 minutes ago, Allisnum2er said:

"What happens if I rearrange the verses of the Sonnet in order to spell "HIDDEN POET" correctly?"

You have possess some serious mojo my friend. 🙂

I was just poking around the 1587 "Like will to Like" pages reading some of the old font I could not even begin to read some years ago, but also doing my best to see how you see on the pages. I can play with your technique a little, but you are a Master!!

Here is the last page before the "Song" at the Bacon's first work (that we know of).

This is a 7 year old kid writing! He writes as a prophet! But I wonder what you would see. Granted a few pages back are some eye-catching words and letters...

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