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15 hours ago, RoyalCraftiness said:

The most overt meaning is that 4 Taus come together (in right-left and top-down symmetry) to give the emblem of the Triple Tau.  The T=19 in simple cipher, but it is 300 in Greek gematria. That 300 is the sum of all letters in the 24 letter Tudor simple cipher, allowing a powerful syllogism. This can be thought of as 24 placeholders in a 5x5 magic square. I'll repost this because it got deleted.

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This is a larger square that has the property of being Ezekiel's description of the plan for the Temple. The inner square is symbolic of the central altar. The overall suggestion may also be that of the impenetrable inner vault. 

The 10x10 magic square has a magic constant that is given by the equation MC=1/2(n) (n^2 +1), for n=10 the MC=505

Each side of the 4Tau block is 505 units of length. The perimeter around the square is given by partial lengths 505, 1010 (T T), 1515 and 2020 (40, 4T). 10x10 is thus an ideal symbol for FB. 33+67=100=Cygnus and all that comes with it as far as physical lines intersecting on a globe.

On the highest level what this suggests is in an fact a solution for 4T which involves 4T in the answer. This sort of self reference is the property of infinite fractions that describe irrational numbers like Phi and Pi.  These numbers are unknowable. They cannot be grasped in their fullness. They are the perfect symbol for the infinite nature of the Monad=God.

A map to the treasure has been said by many to be the KJV. There are many levels of symbolism with TT. TT touching is pi. Francis and his brother used the alias pi and Phi. You now have a better sense why.

Thank you for sharing CJ. There is a lot to think about and to digest 😅 I would need one complete week to read all your posts with a cool head.

For the moment I am on the link between the Mitre of St Paul and Triangulum you talk about in your Topic on the Sylva Sylvarum's frontispiece.

The Turks Head and The Mitre Tavern are also mentionned in "Resuscitatio"(1657 - 1661)

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Thanks to your post, I make some research, and discovered this book that you probably know : The Sphere of Marcus Manilius.

https://books.google.fr/books?id=KGFDAAAAcAAJ&pg=RA1-PA141&lpg=RA1-PA141&dq=Mitre+Saint+paul+triangulum+The+sphere+google+book&source=bl&ots=mF7xMqA5Ff&sig=ACfU3U2CjxNaYJonvzfj8uZZ0-UswweuEQ&hl=fr&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjWvMuiyeD8AhV0VaQEHXpqAPwQ6AF6BAgIEAM#v=onepage&q&f=false

(By the way, page 33 is about the HARE (Rabbit's hole 🙂 )

I love the fact that by coincidence, the mitre of St Paul is mentionned on page 141 (FRANCIS TUDOR simple cipher)

And I learned that Cepheus was associated to ... SOLOMON !!! 😲 I had miss the point !

I understand now why Francis Bacon concealed his name by using the shape of the constellation Cepheus ... that was a reference to THE HOUSE OF SOLOMON !

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Regarding "Resuscitatio", here are the slides that I had prepared for the video, but that I have not used.

This is not by accident if Rawley entitled his Book "Resuscitatio", if he says that he is "The First and the Last" Chaplain of Francis Bacon,

and if the Book was printed neer the "Mitre Cavern"

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Those are references to the Christ.

Let's change PEACES by PISCIS !

 

Piscis is a reference to the Christ and to the Vesica Piscis.

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Here is something interesting with the 1661 (2nd) Edition

Notice that the letters P and S of Piscis add to 33 = BACON.

And the letters W and S of WORKS are the initials of William Shakespeare.

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WILLIAM TUDOR

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8 minutes ago, Allisnum2er said:

Regarding "Resuscitatio", here are the slides that I had prepared for the video, but that I have not used.

This is not by accident if Rawley entitled his Book "Resuscitatio", if he says that he is "The First and the Last" Chaplain of Francis Bacon,

and if the Book was printed neer the "Mitre Cavern"

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Those are references to the Christ.

Let's change PEACES by PISCIS !

 

Piscis is a reference to the Christ and to the Vesica Piscis.

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Here is something interesting with the 1661 (2nd) Edition

Notice that the letters P and S of Piscis add to 33 = BACON.

And the letters W and S of WORKS are the initials of William Shakespeare.

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WILLIAM TUDOR

This is the symbolism of the precessionary cults of Alexandria. The Ichthys is the symbol of the prophet for the age of Pisces. In that astronomical cult the overlapping circles where thought of as the intersection of two important celestial cycles. One of them involved precession and the other what we would call the ecliptic cycle which gives our years. It is true that much of this symbolism was ripped off by the Christian Church who also buried its original meaning and gave a reinterpretation of it, but are we to think that Bacon is exposing the hidden connection? I love the idea, and we have seen that in the Droeshout portrait there are the word suggestions above the portrait where we can extract many ones meaning God. Mithras is included. This, as a Reformist way to undermine the "corrupted" teachings of the Church of Rome, makes enormous sense to the early scientific minds. It isn't something you could not easily say, though, without serious repercussions. It hints that we are dealing with men who are moving back towards a natural interpretation of the God.concept.  

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1 hour ago, Allisnum2er said:

Thank you for sharing CJ. There is a lot to think about and to digest 😅 I would need one complete week to read all your posts with a cool head.

For the moment I am on the link between the Mitre of St Paul and Triangulum you talk about in your Topic on the Sylva Sylvarum's frontispiece.

The Turks Head and The Mitre Tavern are also mentionned in "Resuscitatio"(1657 - 1661)

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Thanks to your post, I make some research, and discovered this book that you probably know : The Sphere of Marcus Manilius.

https://books.google.fr/books?id=KGFDAAAAcAAJ&pg=RA1-PA141&lpg=RA1-PA141&dq=Mitre+Saint+paul+triangulum+The+sphere+google+book&source=bl&ots=mF7xMqA5Ff&sig=ACfU3U2CjxNaYJonvzfj8uZZ0-UswweuEQ&hl=fr&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjWvMuiyeD8AhV0VaQEHXpqAPwQ6AF6BAgIEAM#v=onepage&q&f=false

(By the way, page 33 is about the HARE (Rabbit's hole 🙂 )

I love the fact that by coincidence, the mitre of St Paul is mentionned on page 141 (FRANCIS TUDOR simple cipher)

And I learned that Cepheus was associated to ... SOLOMON !!! 😲 I had miss the point !

I understand now why Francis Bacon concealed his name by using the shape of the constellation Cepheus ... that was a reference to THE HOUSE OF SOLOMON !

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It's a navigational aid to get to where the book(s) is/are sold. It is therefore a natural thing to consider the alternate navigational interpretation of it as a terrestrial aid. In the works where we see it published I question why they would not have simply said: it's next door to the Mytre Tavern in London. Why send you one place and then have you go to the other if knowledge of the end location is still required?  It's a bit of a nonsensical instruction, but it may be done to raise your suspicion. Two loctions are need to specify a Great Circle.

Something I realized just last night is that if you draw a great circle which approximates the galactic plane (the milky way) and you anchor the line by using the right ascension values for the stars on that plane you get a line which goes right through Newfoundland and through the island called Grand Turk in the Caribbean.  Depending on what great circle you consider the Great Turk interpretation can be the Great Turk who was based in Newfoundland in Conception Bay or the island of Grand Turk. Both will work as a suggestion. The Great circle that gets you to the Mahone Bay Ground Point is the one using Alexandria/Heliopolis and Cuper's Cove colony. Delta region and den of the Great Turk...

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Here are the remaining slides ...

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Notice that the letters of "PISCIS" and "SLEEPING" are the same size.

I think that it is another clue.

If we admit that PISCIS is a reference to CHRIST, then the message is "CHRIST SLEEPING".

It can be a reference to Matthew 8:24 :

“And, behold, there arose a great TEMPEST in the sea, insomuch that the ship was covered with the waves: but he (Jesus) was asleep.”

Matthew 8:24 King James Bible 

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And I think that it can be a reference to a peculiar Medallion, a copy of a piece from 1645.

https://www.cointalk.com/threads/the-fishermans-talisman.359141/

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 S.Georgivs Eqvitvm Patronvs, or "St George, Patron of Knight" can be linked to the Most Noble Order of the Garter.

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In Tempestate Secvritas  or "Safe in The Tempest" can be linked to Shake-speare's play "THE TEMPEST"

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THE TEMPEST, the FIRST play of the First Folio,the LAST play wrote by Shakespeare.

THE FIRST AND THE LAST

"I am the Alpha and the Omega, the Beginning and the End, the First and the Last.”

Revelation 22:13 - King James Bible

 

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1 hour ago, Allisnum2er said:

Here are the remaining slides ...

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Notice that the letters of "PISCIS" and "SLEEPING" are the same size.

I think that it is another clue.

If we admit that PISCIS is a reference to CHRIST, then the message is "CHRIST SLEEPING".

It can be a reference to Matthew 8:24 :

“And, behold, there arose a great TEMPEST in the sea, insomuch that the ship was covered with the waves: but he (Jesus) was asleep.”

Matthew 8:24 King James Bible 

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And I think that it can be a reference to a peculiar Medallion, a copy of a piece from 1645.

https://www.cointalk.com/threads/the-fishermans-talisman.359141/

149182575_2023-01-19(4).png.6dd02504094c7eaf3e14e4ee326d5ade.png

 S.Georgivs Eqvitvm Patronvs, or "St George, Patron of Knight" can be linked to the Most Noble Order of the Garter.

2126360474_2023-01-17(1).png.75f51c3e6bbf4ab1b5b47b0068e81fdc.png

In Tempestate Secvritas  or "Safe in The Tempest" can be linked to Shake-speare's play "THE TEMPEST"

579396379_2023-01-19(6).png.5c9f5f3ecdd60412d6198742c422d408.png

THE TEMPEST, the FIRST play of the First Folio,the LAST play wrote by Shakespeare.

THE FIRST AND THE LAST

"I am the Alpha and the Omega, the Beginning and the End, the First and the Last.”

Revelation 22:13 - King James Bible

 

The Bacon portrait of him sitting is one of the first I considered years ago when I was looking at the composition of these things.

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It has very similar things that I have shown are being used in the Droeshout portrait. There's a circle centered on the tip of the finger near the quill end that goes through Bacon's eye and the suggestion of an arc in the material. There's another circle centered on the medallion he's wearing which goes through the arc of buttons, through his mouth and the tip of his thumb on the book. There's a third centered on his wrist at the cuff which goes through the buttons, the tip of the nose and the center of the timepiece. I drew the horizontal and the vertical. From the finial to the center of the large circle is a 30 degree angle. Two of the circles intersect with that line. I see this as a possible suggestion of interesting great circles that intersect the galactic plane (milky way).  The image also established Bacon as being in the Platonic tradition. Not the thrice great Hermes, but the Thrice great Plato. This why we keep getting stories of mythical islands which "sink". 

Rembrandt, let's not forget, was heavy on portraying disguised heretical themes. The Storm of the Sea of Galilea is thought to be a reference to the tumult that occurred in the Renaissance which was starting to upset the entrenched Christian Church of Rome with the esoteric revival of Ficino, Bruno and other who would be hugely influential to Rosicrucianism in Germany. 

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40 minutes ago, RoyalCraftiness said:

The Bacon portrait of him sitting is one of the first I considered years ago when I was looking at the composition of these things.

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It has very similar things that I have shown are being used in the Droeshout portrait. There's a circle centered on the tip of the finger near the quill end that goes through Bacon's eye and the suggestion of an arc in the material. There's another circle centered on the medallion he's wearing which goes through the arc of buttons, through his mouth and the tip of his thumb on the book. There's a third centered on his wrist at the cuff which goes through the buttons, the tip of the nose and the center of the timepiece. I drew the horizontal and the vertical. From the finial to the center of the large circle is a 30 degree angle. Two of the circles intersect with that line. I see this as a possible suggestion of interesting great circles that intersect the galactic plane (milky way).  The image also established Bacon as being in the Platonic tradition. Not the thrice great Hermes, but the Thrice great Plato. This why we keep getting stories of mythical islands which "sink". 

Rembrandt, let's not forget, was heavy on portraying disguised heretical themes. The Storm of the Sea of Galilea is thought to be a reference to the tumult that occurred in the Renaissance which was starting to upset the entrenched Christian Church of Rome with the esoteric revival of Ficino, Bruno and other who would be hugely influential to Rosicrucianism in Germany. 

https://sirbacon.org/bacons-portraits-from-life-image-14/ (See link to Peter Dawkins insightful article on this 1640 William Marshall engraving)

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For what it worth, few months ago I noticed an alignement of the letter UTOR pointing to the top of the Chair.

With the "Prince" of "Princeps" it gives us Prince  TU(D)OR.

Where is the "D"?

I think that it is the D of MUNDUS written on the Book.

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Notice that it gives us "PRINCE TUDOR" and that the line going from D to U cross the letter H of PHILOSOPHIE.

The letter H, The Queen Mother of Consonants ( See Ben Jonson 's Works published the same year)

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18 minutes ago, Eric Roberts said:

https://sirbacon.org/bacons-portraits-from-life-image-14/ (See link to Peter Dawkins insightful article on this 1640 William Marshall engraving)

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It's nice to see the words, but I am very intrigued by the time on the timepiece. It looks like one line across to the 7 minute position.  This is may be in reference to the 30 degrees here minus the axial tilt of the planet (30-23.5degrees).

The words to the left are similar in meaning to the Mundus Intellectuallis that is on the Sylva Sylvarum globe. The other words have a meaning of wedding, union and proof or something to that effect. I'll read the article later, I promise. Suggests the coming together of thing such as cycles as a proof, perhaps. It is a proof it would likely have to involve Euclid.

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6 hours ago, Allisnum2er said:

As I explain in the video, the two stones are mentionned together only twice in the Shakespeare's Works, a first time in "The Lover's Complaint" (1609) and a second time in this page of "The Merry Wives of Windsor" that is the 77th page ( 77=MINERVA) of COMEDIES.

I need to watch the video again. My life is full of distractions and noise. All I can do to read and comprehend an email sometimes.

I admire you all who can read more than a few paragraphs or watch a video longer than a 30 sound bite maintaining attention. I do try, really I do.

Below is a painting my brother painted in 1985 that seems to fit for me sometimes. I see the King of Fooles, and it is almost always me. LOL

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Just read the last several posts in this thread catching up. Family visiting from up north, so missed a lot.

I'm happiest when I swimming to try to stay keep up and above water. 😉

Maybe why I enjoyed reading Carlos Casteneda so much in the '80s. I was always being the surprised curious Foole wandering along towards some discovery.

Oh if we could be in the same room with a cold beer (tea, coffee, water, scotch, whatever...), sharing a huge 4K screen! Each taking turns and kicking around thoughts as they appear on the fly.

Yes, that is what we are doing on the B'Hive, just not "Live".

Picture Bacon, Jonson, whoever else in their safe and comfortable place.

I've worked through my Zoom rejection over the past few years as they have secured the platform. Should we someday do some Live Zoom conversations? Just for fun, and we can record to share. Video maybe or maybe not as far as who we are, but sharing screens and images. Not like the high-end promoted events we see often with too many expectations and crazy stress leading to disappointment, but simple real conversations among friends that we enjoy.

Seeing loved one I have not seen for many years has me emotional I guess...

😉

 

 

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4 minutes ago, lari said:

Great video by the way, I was a skeptic of thd Baconian theory but I was sort of perplexed by this; will have to think it through.

Welcome, feel free to ask any of us.

If you are a skeptic, then all the more welcome!

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1 minute ago, Light-of-Truth said:

Welcome, feel free to ask any of us.

If you are a skeptic, then all the more welcome!

Thank you, that's very kind.

I was reading the Novum Organum a week ago and was just in awe of how accurately and delicately he criticized the old ways of acquiring knowledge, helping to kickstart the Scientific Revolution and so on. When I heard that he might've written the works of Shakespeare, I didn't believe that someone could have such a brilliant mind both for literature and for the sciences or philosophy of science, and had the time to do it all, while still being a politician or noblemam. This would make him the single most cited author of all time in the Humanities, right?

Anyways, I have some questions, where would it be more adequate for me to post it? I'm using mobile, so I'm having a hard time here.

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3 minutes ago, lari said:

This would make him the single most cited author of all time in the Humanities, right?

And he was more, as you'll find out here on the B'Hive forum.

As for questions, have a list you can refer to.

Read the threads, but some may be more than you can take in at first. That's OK. If you have a question that is in the topic, ask away.

If you have a question that is not being discussed, you can start a thread. Try to choose the category where it fits, as best you can. Make sure the title has some meaning to what you want to ask or discuss. A poor title of a post might be, "Let Me Ask You." 😉

You may ask freely. Anyone who is a troll or hateful or mean will be quickly banned, but every sincere visitor is 100% welcome, even if a skeptic. We who have seen the Light of Bacon love to hang out and discuss, and every one of us was a skeptic at some point wondering why we were feeling the tug to learn more. 😉

"What do you mean Shakespeare didn't write Shakespeare? That doesn't even make sense."

LOL

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10 minutes ago, Light-of-Truth said:

And he was more, as you'll find out here on the B'Hive forum.

As for questions, have a list you can refer to.

Read the threads, but some may be more than you can take in at first. That's OK. If you have a question that is in the topic, ask away.

If you have a question that is not being discussed, you can start a thread. Try to choose the category where it fits, as best you can. Make sure the title has some meaning to what you want to ask or discuss. A poor title of a post might be, "Let Me Ask You." 😉

You may ask freely. Anyone who is a troll or hateful or mean will be quickly banned, but every sincere visitor is 100% welcome, even if a skeptic. We who have seen the Light of Bacon love to hang out and discuss, and every one of us was a skeptic at some point wondering why we were feeling the tug to learn more. 😉

"What do you mean Shakespeare didn't write Shakespeare? That doesn't even make sense."

LOL

Thank you, I'll compile the most relevant questions I come up with and post it eventually, maybe in a few days.

lol, that's true in a way, Shakespeare is Bacon and Bacon is Shakespeare, if you're correct. For a literary scholar or a passionatre reader of Shakespeare, it might be as much or even more shocking to know that Shakespeare is ALSO an incredible philosopher, and whatever else he may be.

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12 minutes ago, lari said:

For a literary scholar or a passionatre reader of Shakespeare, it might be as much or even more shocking to know that Shakespeare is ALSO an incredible philosopher, and whatever else he may be.

Whoever wrote Shakespeare had to be an incredible philosopher. Francis Bacon was the only person alive then and maybe ever who could create what is indeed Eternal for as long as we as we survive. Willy Shakspur (or however crudely spelled), the peasant in Avon who nobody cared about growing up who as far as can be proved had no education at all, doesn't have any substance to claim the title of the most brilliant person in the world back then. Nobody considered he was.

Bacon was known then as being the most brilliant man alive. Most who were in that world 400 years ago, but not all, knew Bacon was Shakespeare.

Willy died, nobody cared. Nothing even mentioned for a while. And then it was about a Shakespeare that did not even relate to the guy in Avon who may have become a front-man face, or mask, for the real genius behind the works.

We Baconians have the evidence. You want the Truth, you found it. Weigh and consider the evidence.

Yet how much does Truth matter in our lives? Most people it matters very little.

 

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Eric, I'd love to know a little on what you know about the engraving I took this clip from:

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So I am playing with Kate, CJ and Yann kind of geometry. I love it all so much!

The two strange noses always intrigued me. They are more pointers than noses; ugly noses but obvious signs.

The period after FR is the center of a circle where the two points of the noses share in the circumference (green line). The triangle degrees of those three points I have not figured out yet. I would put some pocket change that it would fit somewhere that makes sense. Could be mathematical, astronomical, navigational,  musical, theatrical, etc.

 

 

 

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6 hours ago, Light-of-Truth said:

Eric, I'd love to know a little on what you know about the engraving I took this clip from:

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So I am playing with Kate, CJ and Yann kind of geometry. I love it all so much!

The two strange noses always intrigued me. They are more pointers than noses; ugly noses but obvious signs.

The period after FR is the center of a circle where the two points of the noses share in the circumference (green line). The triangle degrees of those three points I have not figured out yet. I would put some pocket change that it would fit somewhere that makes sense. Could be mathematical, astronomical, navigational,  musical, theatrical, etc.

 

 

 

Hi Light-of-Truth

 

I'm afraid that I can't be of much help with this particular engraving. From an art historical point of view the artist's name and location don't appear to have come down to us.

I hope someone will correct me here. I see from your own website that you are aware of Peter Dawkins' work on the frontispiece from De Augmentis (1645) http://www.light-of-truth.com/Royal_Arch_Jewel/solution.htm  Here is the link again anyway: https://sirbacon.org/links/dawkinsl&s.htm Nothing came up on the British Library site. 

I did find a few things though:

EVIDENCE: CONNECTING SIR FRANCIS BACON WITH “ SHAKESPEARE” BY HOWARD BRIDGEWATER (Barrister-at-Law)

https://sirbacon.org/ResearchMaterial/evidence.htm 

Quote from page 32:

Emblem Evidence.

Emblem pictures enjoyed great popularity during the sixteenth and seventeenth centuries. Books of emblem pictures were published and delighted the litterati of that age in much the same way that cross- word puzzles do now. Bacon himself was much intrigued by them, and inter alia in the “Advancement of Learning” says: “The art of memory is built upon pre-notion and emblem,” and emblems “strike more forcibly the memory and are more easily imprinted than that which is intellectual.” Now in 1645 there was printed in Holland an edition in Latin of the “De Augmentis,” and as frontispiece it carried the illustration reproduced facing page 32. What is the meaning of it? A ragged figure clad possibly in a goatskin (representing Tragedy) is carrying a book which has the symbol of the mirror thereon (the mirror up to nature)* to what might well be the “strong-based promontory” referred to in “The Tempest.” The figure is interpreted by Sir Edwin Durning Lawrence to represent the tragic muse.

*The purpose of playing . . . is to hold as 'twere the mirror up to nature, to show virtue her own feature, scorn her own image, and the very art and body of the time his form and pressure.” – “Hamlet.”

But Bacon is obviously holding back this figure which is holding the book up to the light, and the suggestion has been made that this figure may be intended to represent Ariel. On the “strong-based promontory” is a temple depicted in sombre shade. It may, therefore, be a “solemn temple” of the drama. Bacon's right-hand index finger points towards the bottom of the page on which the light shines, and the figure looks despairingly as if the time for its release is not quite due. When in “The Tempest” Prospero-Shakespeare tells Ariel there is still more work to. be performed, the sprite replies despondently, “Is there yet more toil?” It will be noticed that there is a smaller book hidden under the open one. In 1623 two immortal works were published - the “Shakespeare” Folio edition and the “De Augmentis.”

 

Edwin Durning-Lawrence's The Shakespeare Myth explains the following:

https://www.gutenberg.org/files/47425/47425-h/47425-h.htm

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Then there's this from the FBRT site:

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This best version of the image I could find was this one:

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Perhaps someone among us is fortunate enough to have this rare edition in their library and might be willing to post a better scan of the frontispiece?

Edited by Eric Roberts
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16 hours ago, Light-of-Truth said:

Why do I know this image as having a series of dots on the left page? I must be crossing rosy wires...

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Answer myself; I am thinking of this image:

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6 years ago, my research for a story that I wrote (based on an Oracle), led me to the famous number 153 .

"Simon Peter went up, and drew the net to land full of great fishes, an hundred and fifty and three: and for all there were so many, yet was not the net broken."

John 21:11 King James Bible

This number fits perfectly well to this Topic, 153 being related to the Fish, and mathematicaly to  the Vesica Piscis 🙂.

https://lekshmanan954.wordpress.com/2016/07/14/story-behind-153-a-fascinating-number/

At that time, I discovered for the very first time this frontispiece, and I realised that there were 15 + 3 dots on the Folio.

For me , it could be linked to the number 18, the magic square of Saturn, and to the number 153.

I found the answer on the 153rd leaf of the First Folio.

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https://internetshakespeare.uvic.ca/Library/facsimile/book/SLNSW_F1/305/index.html%3Fzoom=850.html

All is there, on page 287 of The Winter's Tale !

287 is the Kay cipher of FRA ROSIE CROSS and WILLIAM TUDOR I (Thank you Light-of Truth)

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From one Oracle to one another ! 😊

"Breake up the Seales and read."

Notice the Yogh (33) 😉 

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16 hours ago, lari said:

Great video by the way, I was a skeptic of thd Baconian theory but I was sort of perplexed by this; will have to think it through.

Welcome on board lari ! And thank you for your kind words about my video. You're right, Francis Bacon was a Genius !

Regarding the "Hang-hog" You will learn that when you have "Hang" or "Hog" in Shakepeare's work the second part is never far off and "Bacon" is in disguise.

When I realised that the three letters of Order, Hony and Garters formed HOG I knew that I have to find HANG, and when I realised that it formed the letter P and that by continuing the straight line "Tudor" appeared, I knew that I had found the Rho and that I just had to find the CHi ! It was much fun ! 😊

As said Rob (Light-of-Truth), do not hesitate to ask questions !

Once again, welcome !

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The famous  "Hang-Hog is latten for Bacon" is known to be a reference to a story that happened to Nicholas Bacon, a story that is told in ...

RESUSCITATIO (1671) 3rd edition.

In A Collection of Apophtegms ...

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https://archive.org/details/resvscitatioorbr00baco/page/228/mode/1up?ref=ol&view=theater&q=Collection

Notice that it is the Apophtegms 36.

Now, let's take a look at Apophtegm 36 in the 2nd edition (1661)

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It talks about ... FISHERMEN !

(30+10=40=TTTT)

https://lekshmanan954.wordpress.com/2016/07/14/story-behind-153-a-fascinating-number/

From my point of view, this is a reference to the story of Pythagoras and the Fishermen.

Could it be a hidden reference to the number 153 ?

 

 

 

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This Apophtegm 36 of the 2nd Edition of Resuscitatio is mentionned by John Aubrey in his Brief Life of Bacon.

But the story is slightly different ...

http://home.hiwaay.net/~paul/bacon/biographies/aubrey.html?cdid=639&wotypeid=1&season=c&woid=434

" His Lordship being in Yorke-house garden, lookeing on Fishers as they were throwing their Nett, asked them what they would take for their Draught; they answered so much; his Lordship would only offer so much. They drew up their Nett and there were only 2 or 3 little fishes: his Lordship then told them it had been better for them to have taken his Offer. They replied, they hoped to have had a better Draught. But, sayd his Lordship, Hope is a good Breakfast but an ill Supper.

"so much" is in italic in the text ... coult it be a clue ?

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so much + so much = 75 +75 = 150

Only 2 or 3 little fishes ...

150 + 2 = 152

150 + 3 = 153

Looking for the meaning of these two numbers beyond the link between the number 153 and the 153 Fish in John 21:11, I learned that ...

152 is the isopsephy of Μαρία (Maria)

153  is the isopsephy of η Μαγδαληνή (The Magdalene)

 Μαρία η Μαγδαληνή

Maria the Magdalene

Is it the secret behind these slight modifications to the original text ? Or is it coincidental ? If it was intentional, what are the implications ? I don't know !

But I thought it was interesting to share this with you.

 

 

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