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From Du Bartas: His Divine Weekes and Workes (1633)

"As I have said, the 1623 folio of the plays came out almost at the same time as the “De Augmentis,” and there appeared also in 1623 an edition of Sidney’s “Arcadia,” the title page of which is headed by a hog with a slip knot round its neck to show us that it is a hanged-hog, a Bacon. The hanged hog is covered with a porcupine’s skin (Sidney’s crest was a porcupine) and it also has porcupine’s feet to teach us that Bacon wrote under the porcupine’s skin and, as it were, with the porcupine’s hand, the works known under the name of Sir Philip Sidney. In “ Du Bartas,” translated 1605 by Joshua Sylvester, at B2, we find a wonderful Beacon (Bacon) emblem, which tells us quite clearly, if we have sense enough to understand it, that Sidney is really nothing, and that “ Our Apollo,” “ world’s wonder,” the “rare more-than-man ” is in fact Bacon."  Edwin Durning-Lawrence - Bacon's Masks  -  Baconania n°39 (1912)

https://sirbacon.org/archives/baconiana/1912_ Baconiana_No 39.pdf

Recently, my research led me to The Divine Weekes and Workes of Guillaume de Saluste, Sieur Du Bartas, translated by Josuah Sylvester.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guillaume_de_Salluste_Du_Bartas

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Josuah_Sylvester

The year of publication of one of the editions caught my attention : The edition of 1633.

Published one year after the 2nd Folio of Shake-speare, my inkling was that something special was hidden in this Book.

Playing with numbers, I could see 33 = BACON, 16+33 = 49 = WIT/WTI, 1+6+3+3 = 13 and all its symbolism.

https://books.google.bj/books?id=XN8rKQZfZwEC&printsec=frontcover&hl=fr&source=gbs_ge_summary_r&cad=0#v=onepage&q&f=false

In the book, a strange poem, in the form of a pyramid, with kind of a Hog on its top and mentionning Sydney, immediatly caught my eyes.

I discovered thanks to Sirbacon.org that the poem had already caught the eyes of Edwin Durning-Lawrence.

And I noticed another interesting detail ...

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Flipping through the pages of the Book, I found another Hog ...

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And this Hog was also on the top of a pyramid ...

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To be continued ...

 

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LOVED IT!! I watched full screen on a giant 4K monitor! Every moment was exciting!

When you had this point:

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I saw "France is 33" immediately, and when you confirmed it a few seconds later I busted out laughing!

You nail it, Yann, Allisnum2er (119). You nail it!

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1 hour ago, Allisnum2er said:

I learned that there was an Epigram to Master Josuah Sylvester written by Ben Jonson in this book.

It seems that one of the specificities of the 1633 edition is the choice of Title :

 

EPIGRAM.

TO MASTER

JOS. SYLVESTER.

 

Why JOS. SYLVESTER instead of JOSUAH SYLVESTER ?

 

Here is my suggestion ...

 

 

 

Gematria isn't my subject, but the demonstration video of your text analysis is interesting and expertly made. Thanks for sharing!

P.S. Do you happen to know if Lord Bacon ever used the Tetragrammaton, or referred to God by the name "Jehovah"? 

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19 hours ago, Light-of-Truth said:

LOVED IT!! I watched full screen on a giant 4K monitor! Every moment was exciting!

When you had this point:

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I saw "France is 33" immediately, and when you confirmed it a few seconds later I busted out laughing!

You nail it, Yann, Allisnum2er (119). You nail it!

Many thanks Rob ! ❤️ I am glad you enjoyed it ! 😊

I thought of you when I discovered that the Capital letters (minus the stylized "I" )added as by magic, to 74, 126 and 49 in two differents ways.

I did not mentionned the stylized "I" , 9th (3 x 3) letter of the Alphabet " or "EYE" = 33 simple cipher , depicting two putti ( Castor and Pollux?), nor the W and M of "Work and Merit" with W(21) + M(12) = 33, because I had only the 6:07 min of the music to make my point.

By the way, I recommend you to watch the video with Headphones to fully appreciate the beautiful music of Chris Collins. 😊

Thank you again.

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20 hours ago, Eric Roberts said:

Gematria isn't my subject, but the demonstration video of your text analysis is interesting and expertly made. Thanks for sharing!

P.S. Do you happen to know if Lord Bacon ever used the Tetragrammaton, or referred to God by the name "Jehovah"? 

Thank you Eric ! ❤️

To answer your question, I would be tempted to say : "Sub umbra alarum tuarum, Jehovah" at the very end of the fama fraternitatis.😊

Jehovah is also mentionned in his translation of the psalm 137.

https://www.bartleby.com/library/poem/491.html

And just for fun, as luck would have it, the Tetragrammaton is mentionned by Vigenere in his "Traicté Des Chiffres" (published in 1586) on page ... 33 !

https://archive.org/details/TraictDesChiffresOuSecretes...VigenreBlaiseBpt6k94009991/page/n73/mode/2up

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Notice the PEN-NAME.

There are two "I".

If we don't count the words with hyphens as one:

The first "I" is the 33rd word. (33=BACON)

The second "I" is the 103rd word (103= SHAKESPEARE)

33 + 103 = 136 😉 

http://www.light-of-truth.com/pyramid-GMT.php#Line1894

Moreover we have on the same vertical line : Rose tudor

The word "close" in the middle of the Rose is the 74th word (74=WILLIAM=TUDOR).

And interestingly ...

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TABLE is the 100th word (100 =FRANCIS BACON)

"Thy gift, thy tables, are within my brain" Shakespeare's Sonnet 122

The last verse is composed of 33 printed characteres (33=BACON)

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13 minutes ago, Allisnum2er said:

33 + 103 = 136 😉 

You might know we are in Sonnet 136 right now for the next day or so.

http://www.light-of-truth.com/pyramid-GMT.php#Sonnet136

Sonnet 136 is the moment Bacon tells us in plain text his name. "...my name is Will."

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4 hours ago, Allisnum2er said:

Thank you Eric ! ❤️

To answer your question, I would be tempted to say : "Sub umbra alarum tuarum, Jehovah" at the very end of the fama fraternitatis.😊

Jehovah is also mentionned in his translation of the psalm 137.

https://www.bartleby.com/library/poem/491.html

And just for fun, as luck would have it, the Tetragrammaton is mentionned by Vigenere in his "Traicté Des Chiffres" (published in 1586) on page ... 33 !

https://archive.org/details/TraictDesChiffresOuSecretes...VigenreBlaiseBpt6k94009991/page/n73/mode/2up

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Thank you, Yann. So helpful of you to look into this for me. As you know, the Tetragrammaton appears in the frontispiece of the KJV. I also found this engraving of James I.

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Just a quick update, with the supporting colors.

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The "u" of "Labour" could be the "u" of "Tudor" and the "w" of "which" could be the "w" of "William".

The message could be SYDNEY PEN-NAME (OF) WILLIAM TUDOR - ROSE.

And I remind you that "I" and "wit" are the 33rd words (33 =BACON) depending on whether we count "more-than-man" as one or three.

By the way ...

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RARE MORE-THAT-MAN = WILL SHAKESPEARE (Simple cipher)

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On 11/15/2022 at 10:04 PM, Allisnum2er said:

I learned that there was an Epigram to Master Josuah Sylvester written by Ben Jonson in this book.

It seems that one of the specificities of the 1633 edition is the choice of Title :

 

EPIGRAM.

TO MASTER

JOS. SYLVESTER.

 

Why JOS. SYLVESTER instead of JOSUAH SYLVESTER ?

 

Here is my suggestion ...

 

 

 

That’s super impressive, Yann! 👏👏

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On 11/15/2022 at 6:31 PM, Eric Roberts said:

Gematria isn't my subject, but the demonstration video of your text analysis is interesting and expertly made. Thanks for sharing!

P.S. Do you happen to know if Lord Bacon ever used the Tetragrammaton, or referred to God by the name "Jehovah"? 

I just stumbled on this:

https://www.alamy.com/excerpt-from-francis-bacons-work-the-translation-of-certaine-psalmes-into-english-verse-1625-the-latin-originated-form-iehoua-modern-english-jehovah-of-the-tetragrammaton-is-used-67-bacon-francis-1625-the-translation-of-certaine-psalmes-into-english-verse-p-19-iehoua-image184857714.html

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And here is a text version:

https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/The_Translation_of_Certain_Psalms_into_English_Verse

THE TRANSLATION OF THE CXXXVIIth PSALM.

...

Alas, said we, who can once force or frame
His grieved and oppressed heart to sing
The praises of Jehovah's glorious name,
In banishment, under a foreign king?
In Zion is his seat and dwelling-place,
Thence doth he show the brightness of his face.

The Tetragrammaton came up for me with the Sylva Sylvarum title page:

https://www.britishmuseum.org/collection/object/P_1896-1230-110

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8 hours ago, Light-of-Truth said:

I just stumbled on this:

https://www.alamy.com/excerpt-from-francis-bacons-work-the-translation-of-certaine-psalmes-into-english-verse-1625-the-latin-originated-form-iehoua-modern-english-jehovah-of-the-tetragrammaton-is-used-67-bacon-francis-1625-the-translation-of-certaine-psalmes-into-english-verse-p-19-iehoua-image184857714.html

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And here is a text version:

https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/The_Translation_of_Certain_Psalms_into_English_Verse

THE TRANSLATION OF THE CXXXVIIth PSALM.

...

Alas, said we, who can once force or frame
His grieved and oppressed heart to sing
The praises of Jehovah's glorious name,
In banishment, under a foreign king?
In Zion is his seat and dwelling-place,
Thence doth he show the brightness of his face.

The Tetragrammaton came up for me with the Sylva Sylvarum title page:

https://www.britishmuseum.org/collection/object/P_1896-1230-110

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Hi Light-of-Truth. Thank you so much for sharing these two examples of Bacon's use of the name of God. Very kind of you and I'm much obliged. The name also appears several times in the KJV: https://www.kingjamesbibleonline.org/jehovah/ / and is also displayed at the top of the frontispiece: KJV-King-James-Version-Bible-first-editi

 

It has been claimed by Melvyn Bragg and others that 80 to 90% of the KJV was taken directly from William Tyndale's heretical Bible for which he was strangled and burned at the stake. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tyndale_Bible

 

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