Michael Callis Posted July 26, 2022 Share Posted July 26, 2022 This is headpiece from 1753 published during Cromwell Republic The author is Christopher Goad Title Refreshing Drops scorching Viles'. Is this a Pythagorean Orphic tradition P.O.T.? I post this because of similarities to Shakespeare sonnet's headpiece and comments made about it and Bacon by this informative community. I believe the headpieces are of a Pythagorean Orphic tradition that connects Bacon and Shakespeare to Ben Franklin , and emblems used in colonial currency circa 1776 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allisnum2er Posted July 26, 2022 Share Posted July 26, 2022 Welcome Michael, and thank you for sharing. It seems that this book was published in 1653. You say :" I believe the headpieces are of a Pythagorean Orphic tradition that connects Bacon and Shakespeare to Ben Franklin , and emblems used in colonial currency circa 1776 ". I would say that the headpieces connect Ben Franklin to Bacon/Shakespeare. 😉 Regarding this peculiar Headpiece and its link with the Dionysian-Orphic Mysteries, I can not recommend you enough (if you have not read it yet) the wonderful essay of Peter Dawkins on the subject : https://www.fbrt.org.uk/wp-content/uploads/2020/06/The_Shakespeare_Gemini_Headpieces.pdf Best regards, Yann 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Callis Posted July 26, 2022 Author Share Posted July 26, 2022 Thank you for the heads-up. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allisnum2er Posted July 26, 2022 Share Posted July 26, 2022 (edited) MIchael, your post reminded me a list of publications with the Headpieces that I had seen few months ago on sirbacon.org. This is in the appendix I of the great Book of Mather Walker "PLUS ULTRA" https://sirbacon.org/archives/PLUS ULTRA - w4 w ToC.pdf This is in fact a list of publications with AA devices and your book is not listed here, but it could be a new book to the list ! 😃 I did not find a copy of the book on internet. By chance, does the AA device appear somewhere in "Refreshing Drops scorching Viles" ? Edited July 26, 2022 by Allisnum2er 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob at 007 Posted July 26, 2022 Share Posted July 26, 2022 Thanks for joining Michael! Welcome to the B'Hive!! 🙂 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Light-of-Truth Posted July 26, 2022 Share Posted July 26, 2022 This head piece is very similar to one we kicked around not too long ago: Comment on Sacred Geometry on Title Pages In fact it is the same image except the flowers on the top left and right. The new top left flower appears to me to be a rose, maybe even a Tudor Rose. The new top right flowers look like poppy seed pods to me. The diagonal scores are not natural, of course. Those are the cuts to let the opium drip down to be collected and rolled into little balls. 😉 The back-to-back cronies are there, the three hanging fish we've kicked around, two Dolphins, everything else is the same. 2 T A A A A A A A A A A A T 157 www.Light-of-Truth.com 287 <-- 1 8 8 1 1 O 1 1 8 8 1 --> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allisnum2er Posted July 27, 2022 Share Posted July 27, 2022 Good morning Rob , you have beat me to the punch ! 😊 The two flowers are in fact a Rose and a Thistle . I firstly believed that it was a reference to the four Emblems of the British Isles with the Rose of England, the Thistle of Scotland, the Fleur-de-lys of Wales and the Harp of Ireland. https://www.alamy.com/symbols-british-isles-the-four-emblems-of-the-four-countries-in-union-in-the-british-isles-the-rose-of-england-the-thistle-of-scotland-the-descendant-of-the-fleur-de-lys-associated-with-the-prince-of-wales-and-the-harp-of-ireland-from-a-book-of-common-prayer-1662-from-john-richard-green-a-short-history-of-the-english-people-1902-edn-image179623969.html Then I had an idea . What if it was a reference to the three emblems of Great Britain (Rose, Thistle and Fleur-de-lys ? You will say to me : 'The Fleur-de-lys is missing !" But what if the Fleur-de-lys, associated with the PRINCE OF WALES had been concealed ? 😃 With the two DOLPHIN of which the simple cipher is 74 , the same as WILLIAM and TUDOR, it gives us ... WILLIAM TUDOR, PRINCE OF WALES Thank you Michael, I believe that you allowed us to unreveal another secret of the original emblem ! 😊🙏 Now, i would be interested to know when and in which book this peculiar Emblem with the Rose and the Thistle appeared for the very first time. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Michael Callis Posted July 28, 2022 Author Share Posted July 28, 2022 Thank you to the informed responses. The headpiece of Dolphins rabbits and other forms is headpiece from a very rare should have been burned 1653 first edition of Scorching Viles'. A tribute from the New Republic with the sign of the double eagle I have it. Also a similar headpiece is in another book in my library. ( Which consists of less than ten books.) It was published by the Prince society 18?? in a book of the works of Rev. Wheelwright . I believe the book I have from estate auction many years ago from a nine generation NH Greek family was once owned by rev Wheelwright obtained on his return from serving Cromwell in 1662. First published 1876. The 1653 tribute edition by Cromwell and his followers is a testimony to the Magna Carta and the author staying at Broughton castle associated with the Cromwell Republic and the Magna Carta 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Callis Posted July 28, 2022 Author Share Posted July 28, 2022 The book published by Prince society is 1876 the book published with the headpiece with rabbits is the double headed eagle, during the interregnum in 1653. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Light-of-Truth Posted July 28, 2022 Share Posted July 28, 2022 (edited) Beautiful headpiece. I don't see rabbits, but squirrels holding nuts. The symmetry is off on the headpiece, do we have a 3 and a 3? I know NOTHING about the book and anything else. But I like the headpiece and find it curious. Two Dolphins, Three "Hanging" fish, Two Squirrels with nuts. What do the squirrels represent?? Two Upside-down Amphipteres (Dragons, winged serpents) too. Edited July 28, 2022 by Light-of-Truth 1 T A A A A A A A A A A A T 157 www.Light-of-Truth.com 287 <-- 1 8 8 1 1 O 1 1 8 8 1 --> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kate Posted July 29, 2022 Share Posted July 29, 2022 On 7/26/2022 at 9:58 PM, Rob at 007 said: Thanks for joining Michael! Welcome to the B'Hive!! 🙂 Hi Michael, great to have you join the forum. Love the ‘secret and safe chambers’ title. Although it seems a bit of an odd location, as Rob indicated up above, we did have a bit of discussion on the headpieces on page 1 and 2 of a sacred geometry topic. It may be worth a look if you haven’t been over there already. Rob, re 🐿Seems there may be (?) a Scottish link as in the Book on Heraldry squirrels are spoken about on a Scottish coat of arms and thistles are obviously Scottish too - or am I conflating two separate things? I don’t know, but welcome anyway Michael! 2 "For nothing is born without unity or without the point." amazon.com/dp/B0CLDKDPY8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Callis Posted July 30, 2022 Author Share Posted July 30, 2022 The Dolphins are similar to Greek mosaics of the Story of Dionysus when the pirates are turned into Dolphins. Are the headpieces a tribute to Greek orphic Pythagorean mythology? Any other suggestions? Thanks for previous comments. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kate Posted August 1, 2022 Share Posted August 1, 2022 On 7/30/2022 at 1:52 AM, Michael Callis said: The Dolphins are similar to Greek mosaics of the Story of Dionysus when the pirates are turned into Dolphins. Are the headpieces a tribute to Greek orphic Pythagorean mythology? Any other suggestions? Thanks for previous comments. Could well be. Seems dolphins are connected to Delphi. I’ve seen this referenced in many places, here’s just one https://alunsalt.com/is-delphi-really-connected-with-dolphins-d60b7fddbf8c With this headpiece reversed I see both the Aries ♈️ symbol and also Fallopian tubes and a babies head emerging. So a womb-like depiction, but that could just be a coincidence. 3 "For nothing is born without unity or without the point." amazon.com/dp/B0CLDKDPY8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Callis Posted August 2, 2022 Author Share Posted August 2, 2022 There is a lot going on in the headpiece. My interest is in the 1653 book printed during the Cromwell republic in honor of the minister, Christopher Goad is if the use of the headpiece similar to Shakespeare, Bacon and others has or had significance. The secret Chamber' title that is below the headpiece uses the term lifting the veil in association with a sacred marriage between Christ and man. It is not a wedding between a man and a woman Roger Williams printed a letter by Goad and William Penn uses a quote from the book on lifting the veil. Is the headpiece just a decorative device used by the minister to Cromwell and the new but shortlived republic ? The Golden Fleece by Orpheus Jr published in 1626 is associated with the early colonizers of Newfoundland and NH and it is filled with Rosicrucian references. They were I believe the legacy of Bacon and his colonization plans. The Golden Fleece was a plan to fight inflation by raising sheep that would compete with Spanish wool. It was dedicated to the new King Charles and the book ends with the King declining their plans instead he would use the colonies as a place to transport the bothersome Puritans and he did. It was called Massachusetts. Thanks for all the help in understanding the image. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kate Posted August 3, 2022 Share Posted August 3, 2022 I’m still interested in dolphins and squirrels! 2 "For nothing is born without unity or without the point." amazon.com/dp/B0CLDKDPY8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Callis Posted August 3, 2022 Author Share Posted August 3, 2022 As Orpheus in the woods and Arion on the dolphin From Bacon advancement of learning and from Virgil ?. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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