Kate Posted July 21, 2022 Share Posted July 21, 2022 Hi I'm posting this here as it is essentially a Rosicrucian/Freemasonic topic but it could also go in Ciphers and/or Announcements. I never intended to make this many videos but in the 100 degree heat this week we were virtually imprisoned in our houses, so I set to work. This is just one interpretation of the Sonnets dedication - not a definitive one. We'll never know for sure unless a document is one day unearthed. Kate 3 "For nothing is born without unity or without the point." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A Phoenix Posted July 21, 2022 Share Posted July 21, 2022 (edited) Hi Kate, This is another important and ground-breaking contribution to Bacon-Shakespeare scholarship and our understanding of the publication of ‘1609’ edition of the Sonnets. There is little doubt in my mind (which is in keeping with the wide consensus among Baconian and orthodox Shakespeare scholars) that following the dedications to Southampton (who resided with Bacon at Gray's Inn prior to this: i. e., from 1589 onwards) of Venus and Adonis (1593) and The Rape of Lucrece (1594) that he is the Fair Youth in the Sonnets, which it is believed, were written over a period of some two decades. In the years leading up to the ill-advised Essex uprising (i.e., in the second half of the 1590s) the relationship between Bacon and Southampton began to cool. Following the uprising in February 1601 Essex was executed and Southampton (after his death sentence was commuted) was imprisoned in the Tower. On the accession of James I Southampton was released from prison. Buried away in Spedding’s seven-volume Letters and Life of Bacon is a virtually unknown letter from Bacon to Southampton where he pointedly says to him in direct reference to their previous close relationship ‘I may safely be now that which I was truly before’: It may please your Lordship, I would have been very glad to have presented my humble service to your Lordship by my attendance, if I could have foreseen that it should not have been unpleasing unto you. And therefore, because I would commit no error, I choose to write; assuring your Lordship (how credible soever it may seem to you at first) yet it is as true as a thing that God knoweth, that this great change hath wrought in me no other change towards your Lordship than this, that I may safely be now that which I was truly before. And so craving no other pardon than for troubling you with this letter, I do not now begin, but continue to be Your Lordships humble and much devoted. [Spedding, Letters and Life, III, pp. 75-6] It is not known whether Southampton replied to this letter and in light of his attitude towards Bacon following his fall from grace where Southampton was less than sympathetic and urged that strong measures should be taken against Bacon, we can assume they never rekindled their previous intimate relationship. During the period leading up to the 1609 publication of the Sonnets, and thereafter, Bacon began to have an increasingly close relationship with William Herbert, Earl of Pembroke, who as you point out was Grand Master of England. It was during this tenureship that Bacon jointly dedicated to Pembroke the 1623 Shakespeare First Folio. Edited July 21, 2022 by A Phoenix 3 https://aphoenix1.academia.edu/ https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCrY7wzlXnZiT1Urwx7jP6fQ/videos Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Light-of-Truth Posted July 21, 2022 Share Posted July 21, 2022 WOW! Kate! You are a GENIUS! Awesome!! Are you available for hire? I'd pay you to describe my Sonnets Dedication theory even if you express you don't buy it while describing it! LOL This image caught my eye: Why is the "I" different, against the "rule", so to speak. Look at the giant "C". It's only different from the "b" version because it is bigger. Obviously there is a reason why. You are excellent when stating you are not one to accept conspiracy theories, but the ones you presented work for me very well! 😉 Kate! Wow! It's too hot here in Florida to be outside too. What a treasure for us that you created this amazing video to stay cool! BINGO! Funny, even if I knew this, I forgot. KNOWLEDGE IS POWER is 201 Simple cipher with the modern 26 letter alphabet codes. 201 is a Rosicrucian symbol number referring to the two Secret Shakespearean Seal numbers. 3 T A A A A A A A A A A A T 157 www.Light-of-Truth.com 287 <-- 1 8 8 1 1 O 1 1 8 8 1 --> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allisnum2er Posted July 21, 2022 Share Posted July 21, 2022 (edited) Triple WOW Kate ! AWESOME ! What a great video and an incredible discovery ! 😲 And I think that you can confidently trust yourself regarding the use of the bilateral cipher in the dedication. No need for all the text to be meaningful , three letters are far enough 😉 TO THE ONLIE BE TO.TH/E.ONL/IE.BE AABAA/ABAAA/AABAA E/I/E EIE, the ancient spelling of EYE (33 simple cipher) appears for the first time in Sonnet ... 33 ! Sonnet 33 FVll many a glorious morning haue I ſeene, Flatter the mountaine tops with ſoueraine eie, Kiſſing with golden face the meddowes greene; Guilding pale ſtreames with heauenly alcumy: Anon permit the baſeſt cloudes to ride, With ougly rack on his celeſtiall face, And from the for-lorne world his viſage hide Stealing un'eene to weſt with this diſgrace: Euen ſo my Sunne one early morne did ſhine, With all triumphant ſplendor on my brow, But out alack,he was but one houre mine, The region cloude hath mask'd him from me now. Yet him for this,my loue no whit diſdaineth, Suns of the world may ſtaine,whë heauens ſun ſtainteh. It also appears on Sonnets 61, 62 , 88 and 114. 33 + 61 + 88 + 114 = 358 the gematria of Nahash (Serpent) and Meschiah (Messiah) https://www.spiritofthescripture.com/id3793-the-paradox-of-the-serpent-and-the-messiah.html Edited July 21, 2022 by Allisnum2er 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allisnum2er Posted July 21, 2022 Share Posted July 21, 2022 21 minutes ago, Light-of-Truth said: Why is the "I" different, against the "rule", so to speak. Look at the giant "C". It's only different from the "b" version because it is bigger. Obviously there is a reason why "Bien vu" Rob (Light-of-Truth) , but I don't C what it means ! 😁 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Light-of-Truth Posted July 21, 2022 Share Posted July 21, 2022 (edited) EIE is in Sonnet 33 as you have demonstrated. What about EIEs in Day 33: But from thine eies my knowledge I deriue, And constant stars in them I read such art As truth and beautie shal together thriue If from thy selfe,to store thou wouldst conuert: Or else of thee this I prognosticate, Thy end is Truthes and Beauties doome and date. http://www.light-of-truth.com/pyramid-GMT.php#Day033 Also my favorite acrostic which is in DAY 33, FR BACON TUDOR. EDIT: Instead of a another reply, thought I'd just edit and add this in Day 33: Edited July 21, 2022 by Light-of-Truth 3 T A A A A A A A A A A A T 157 www.Light-of-Truth.com 287 <-- 1 8 8 1 1 O 1 1 8 8 1 --> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kate Posted July 21, 2022 Author Share Posted July 21, 2022 (edited) Thanks for the great compliments to all of you. That's fascinating about the EIE Yann! In fact it's pretty mind-blowing. K Editing to say, my reply crossed with you posting that above Rob, wow again. I looked at the EIE and just dismissed it. Edited July 21, 2022 by Kate 3 "For nothing is born without unity or without the point." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Light-of-Truth Posted July 21, 2022 Share Posted July 21, 2022 The letter "I" is almost like a portal into another world... 😉 2 T A A A A A A A A A A A T 157 www.Light-of-Truth.com 287 <-- 1 8 8 1 1 O 1 1 8 8 1 --> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allisnum2er Posted July 21, 2022 Share Posted July 21, 2022 2 minutes ago, Light-of-Truth said: The letter "I" is almost like a portal into another world... 😉 Thank you Rob ! Now, Eie See !!! 😃 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Light-of-Truth Posted July 21, 2022 Share Posted July 21, 2022 Bacon's muse, ATHENA who was his SHAKESPEARE! (47 and 103) WILLIAM SHAKESPEARE (177) And... FRANCIS BACON MINERVA (177) 2 T A A A A A A A A A A A T 157 www.Light-of-Truth.com 287 <-- 1 8 8 1 1 O 1 1 8 8 1 --> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Light-of-Truth Posted July 21, 2022 Share Posted July 21, 2022 EIE can be 595, right? E=5 I=9 E=5 Sonnet 55 which is really amazing. I love what Freemason Richard Wagner did with it. Shakespeare Sonnet 55 : Francis Bacon’s Ode to Hiram Abiff Will we find EIE in Sonnet 55? 5 with a 9, then another 5. 595. EIE. NOt marble, nor the guilded monument, Of Princes shall out-liue this powrefull rime, But you shall shine more bright in these contents Then vnswept stone, besmeer'd with sluttish time. When wastefull warre shall Statues ouer-turne, And broiles roote out the worke of masonry, Nor Mars is sword, nor warres quick fire shall burne: The liuing record of your memory. Gainst death,and all obliuious emnity Shall you pace forth, your praise shall stil finde roome, Euen in the eyes of all posterity That weare this world out to the ending doome. So til the iudgement that your selfe arise, You liue in this,and dwell in louers eies This is Line 770 of the Sonnets. 3 T A A A A A A A A A A A T 157 www.Light-of-Truth.com 287 <-- 1 8 8 1 1 O 1 1 8 8 1 --> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Light-of-Truth Posted July 21, 2022 Share Posted July 21, 2022 This graphic by the Friedmans is driving me batty. 25 letter alphabet codes, the letter "I" is out of sync, the "a" C is huge, the "b" G is not italic. What are the four numbers related to K and W? This is one of their final exams to their students, I bet. What does it mean?? How do we use it?? 1 T A A A A A A A A A A A T 157 www.Light-of-Truth.com 287 <-- 1 8 8 1 1 O 1 1 8 8 1 --> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Light-of-Truth Posted July 21, 2022 Share Posted July 21, 2022 I have a few minutes before the latest J6 Hearing. What about "Ciphers For the Little Folks"? 277 is Simple cipher for FRANCIS BACON WILLIAM SHAKESPEARE. Coincidence? With the Friedmans? LOL!! The upper case letters, "C F L F"? Reverse cipher is 74 the Simple cipher of WILLIAM and TUDOR. They are telling us that Francis Bacon is William Shakespeare, and William Tudor just in the title of this one work, "Ciphers For the Little People." I hope I am one of the "Little People"! LOL 3 T A A A A A A A A A A A T 157 www.Light-of-Truth.com 287 <-- 1 8 8 1 1 O 1 1 8 8 1 --> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kate Posted July 22, 2022 Author Share Posted July 22, 2022 (edited) Incase anyone wishes to play around with it, here are my notes from the aborted first attempt before I looked into using the two hyphens alone as the bi-marker. The problem/difficulty with this one is it doesn’t end evenly - even if we were to purloin the signature TT and there’s difficulty in knowing whether to include the hyphens when they are not the same as dots, it is after all a biliteral cipher and not a triliteral. However the first line spelling EIE (which I now realise, thanks to you, is all over the Sonnets) is fascinating. I’ll just add up all their number values and get back to you. Here. I don’t see anything but maybe one of you does? Also there’s the problem with the extra letters not being included. We could, as I said, make a final line of 5 by borrowing from the signature and that would change this calculation, but would still leave spare characters. Edited July 22, 2022 by Kate 2 1 "For nothing is born without unity or without the point." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Light-of-Truth Posted July 22, 2022 Share Posted July 22, 2022 I tried it this way: T T Setting forth in the adventurer By wishing well wisheth living ever Our poet promised these sonnets To the onlie and insuing eternitie That begetter of all happinesse W Mr H I don't really see anything. There is a 157 Short cipher with 26 letter codes, but I don't think I hit anything of substance. I also ran the text using the Caesar Cipher tool with no results. 2 T A A A A A A A A A A A T 157 www.Light-of-Truth.com 287 <-- 1 8 8 1 1 O 1 1 8 8 1 --> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kate Posted July 22, 2022 Author Share Posted July 22, 2022 I think it’s probably valid to try reversing it, but personally I think changing words and lines is pretty unlikely - good on you for leaving no stone unturned though, Rob! 😀 BTW, this must have been discovered before, but I only noticed today that the cover has F Bacon. It’s in Shakespeare’s Sonnets Never Before Imprinted (39). 3 "For nothing is born without unity or without the point." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Light-of-Truth Posted July 22, 2022 Share Posted July 22, 2022 Kate: Quote I think it’s probably valid to try reversing it, but personally I think changing words and lines is pretty unlikely - good on you for leaving no stone unturned though, Rob! Thanks! I will say I am very secure in what I believe is "one" solution of the Dedication Poem. But it is fun to banter. I am intrigued how you just don't see it, with your eies that see so well! 🙂 ❤️ Veils are funny things, can only be pierced when the fabric is ready, or when there is a very sharp tool on hand. The arrow points to the final stop. The last letters are "Worshipful Master FB" which makes 33 stops, in the center of the Star/Pyramid/Royal Arch Degree medal. The hanging BAsket (of goodies) is just a fun little way to start after passing the Two T's to begin. 3 T A A A A A A A A A A A T 157 www.Light-of-Truth.com 287 <-- 1 8 8 1 1 O 1 1 8 8 1 --> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kate Posted July 23, 2022 Author Share Posted July 23, 2022 Are you saying I’m not the sharpest tool in the box 😂😂 (Joking) Didn't realise when I replied what you were showing was linked to your Sonnets diagram - my apologies Rob. I can see how that might have looked. It wasn’t meant. x 2 1 "For nothing is born without unity or without the point." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lawrence Gerald Posted July 23, 2022 Share Posted July 23, 2022 That 100 C Degree heat in England is producing honey in the B Hive. Wow Kate, I just had an Advancement of Learning watching myself dissolve my own compounds while viewing your MOST Excellent Video "CRYPTOGRAPHY: The Biliteral Cipher Reveals the True Author of Shakespeare's Sonnets. " After 33 years I am finally illuminated regarding the Biliteral Cipher thanks to your Brilliant video. Truth has Come to Light ! Thank You! 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Light-of-Truth Posted July 23, 2022 Share Posted July 23, 2022 Kate: Quote Are you saying I’m not the sharpest tool in the box 😂😂 (Joking) Not at all!! 🙂 The tool that is too dull to pierce the veil is my description/explanation about how the solution works! LOL 3 T A A A A A A A A A A A T 157 www.Light-of-Truth.com 287 <-- 1 8 8 1 1 O 1 1 8 8 1 --> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kate Posted July 23, 2022 Author Share Posted July 23, 2022 1 hour ago, Lawrence Gerald said: That 100 C Degree heat in England is producing honey in the B Hive. Wow Kate, I just had an Advancement of Learning watching myself dissolve my own compounds while viewing your MOST Excellent Video "CRYPTOGRAPHY: The Biliteral Cipher Reveals the True Author of Shakespeare's Sonnets. " After 33 years I am finally illuminated regarding the Biliteral Cipher thanks to your Brilliant video. Truth has Come to Light ! Thank You! Thanks Lawrence. High praise indeed. I’m so glad you like it. I wonder if I could just ask everyone reading to go in and like, share and comment under the video, even if only a few words. The reason being, I’ve noticed the traction on these Bacon videos is very slow and the views are extremely low compared to the much higher numbers on my cycles videos. This is likely down to the fact that the algorithms favour videos that are being interacted with more regularly, the rest they leave at the bottom of the pile. It’s important to spread the word. The notes have links to APs work and Sir Bacon and others, so it helps everyone. Also people look at comments and likes to decide whether to watch. I just shared it on my Twitter feeds and on the one nobody has interacted, yet I have over 3300 followers. It’s unfathomable. If someone can add it to FB I'd appreciate it. I may switch the setting to the one which shows clips to try and boost its views too. Thanks again Lawrence and everybody. 😘 3 "For nothing is born without unity or without the point." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric Roberts Posted September 2, 2022 Share Posted September 2, 2022 On 7/22/2022 at 3:41 AM, A Phoenix said: Hi Kate, This is another important and ground-breaking contribution to Bacon-Shakespeare scholarship and our understanding of the publication of ‘1609’ edition of the Sonnets. There is little doubt in my mind (which is in keeping with the wide consensus among Baconian and orthodox Shakespeare scholars) that following the dedications to Southampton (who resided with Bacon at Gray's Inn prior to this: i. e., from 1589 onwards) of Venus and Adonis (1593) and The Rape of Lucrece (1594) that he is the Fair Youth in the Sonnets, which it is believed, were written over a period of some two decades. In the years leading up to the ill-advised Essex uprising (i.e., in the second half of the 1590s) the relationship between Bacon and Southampton began to cool. Following the uprising in February 1601 Essex was executed and Southampton (after his death sentence was commuted) was imprisoned in the Tower. On the accession of James I Southampton was released from prison. Buried away in Spedding’s seven-volume Letters and Life of Bacon is a virtually unknown letter from Bacon to Southampton where he pointedly says to him in direct reference to their previous close relationship ‘I may safely be now that which I was truly before’: It may please your Lordship, I would have been very glad to have presented my humble service to your Lordship by my attendance, if I could have foreseen that it should not have been unpleasing unto you. And therefore, because I would commit no error, I choose to write; assuring your Lordship (how credible soever it may seem to you at first) yet it is as true as a thing that God knoweth, that this great change hath wrought in me no other change towards your Lordship than this, that I may safely be now that which I was truly before. And so craving no other pardon than for troubling you with this letter, I do not now begin, but continue to be Your Lordships humble and much devoted. [Spedding, Letters and Life, III, pp. 75-6] It is not known whether Southampton replied to this letter and in light of his attitude towards Bacon following his fall from grace where Southampton was less than sympathetic and urged that strong measures should be taken against Bacon, we can assume they never rekindled their previous intimate relationship. During the period leading up to the 1609 publication of the Sonnets, and thereafter, Bacon began to have an increasingly close relationship with William Herbert, Earl of Pembroke, who as you point out was Grand Master of England. It was during this tenureship that Bacon jointly dedicated to Pembroke the 1623 Shakespeare First Folio. Do we know why they fell out of friendship for each other? Was it over the Essex rebellion, or something else? Thank you for the very helpful synopsis. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A Phoenix Posted September 2, 2022 Share Posted September 2, 2022 Hi Eric, Yes it was bound up with the unfolding events in the latter part of the 1590s leading up tp the Essex uprising which had a complex impact upon the dynamics of their personal relationships which were being played out against epoch defining political matters of state, ultimtately surrounding the succession and throne of England, which both FB and Essex being concealed royal princes had a claim to. 1 https://aphoenix1.academia.edu/ https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCrY7wzlXnZiT1Urwx7jP6fQ/videos Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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