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Perhaps the most famous and eternal of all of Shakespeare's Sonnets is Sonnet 18. "Shall I compare thee to a Summers day?"

I've mentioned before that the letters "S" and "H" appear in sequence 8 times in Sonnet 18. S=18 and H=8 in Simple cipher, so SH can be a number 188 (S=18 and H=8 to make 188). 188 is the Kaye cipher of ETERNITY.

SHA appears in five of those instances. SHA is 1881 (S=18, H=8, and A=1 to make 1881). The number 1881 has characteristics that appear to be related to Time. In fact, 1881 is like a Janus to me connecting past and future.


If we add up the first letters of the lines of Sonnet 18, the Reverse cipher is 188:


If we count 881 lines from the first line of Sonnet 18 we end up at the first line of Sonnet 81. Funny that Sonnet 81 is the same theme as Sonnet 18. And it has SHA (1881) seven times in the Sonnet.


Sonnet 18:

When in eternall lines to time thou grow'st,
    So long as men can breath or eyes can see,
    So long liues this,and this giues life to thee,

Sonnet 81:

When all the breathers of this world are dead,
    You still shall liue (such vertue hath my Pen)
    Where breath most breaths, euen in the mouths of men.

18 & 81 are related, same theme. Many of the same words in fact; shall, eyes, breath, etc.


Sonnet 18 there are 157 characters before "eye of heauen".


EYE is 33 Simple cipher, EYE OF HEAUEN is 287 Kaye cipher.


Sonnet 81 there are 33 words before "name":


I could go on, but for now I mostly wanted to show how the two Sonnets are related and how the numbers 18, 81, 188, 881, and 1881 connect in various ways and directions. As if it is a Janus.





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  • Rob at 007 changed the title to Sonnets 18 & 81

Rob, thank you so much for shedding your light on these 2 sonnets and their connection ! It's amazing ! ❤️

A lot of things run through my mind since I read your post.

18 & 81 - 1881 - JANUS  ... The beginning  and the end ... ETERNITY.

We know that 18 + 81 = 99  the reverse cipher of WILL TUDOR , the last Tudor, and that Francis Bacon "died" the 99th day of the year. We have our "end" !

Where is the beginning ? Maybe in 18*81 = 1458 the year of birth of HENRY VII , the first Tudor ?


I love medals, and I investigated whether a medal of Shakespeare or Bacon had been engraved in 1881 ... the answer is yes !


The Earl of Strafford's Gold Medal "For the Encouragement of the Study of Shakespeare" by Leonard Charles Wyon.

A quote of Shakespeare ( from Hamlet) is engraved : "HOW NOBLE IN REASON ! HOW INFINITE IN FACULTIES !"

I took a look to the  corresponding page of the First Folio  and ... surprise ! 😃



770th page of the First Folio - 770 # 77 (0 is nulle) and 77 is the simple cipher of MINERVA

262 # BFB # Bacon Francis Bacon 

What a beautiful palindromic (Janus-like) number ! 😊

And look ...


 I do not believe in coincidence ! 😉

I am sure that there is more to find in this page.





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"SHall I compare thee to a Summers day?"

Sound familiar? 😉

Of course it does, maybe the most famous line in the Sonnets. Sonnet 18 is the most "Eternal" of all the Sonnets.

I woke up today as Sonnet 18 was already underway. This thread was from last Summer when Sonnet 81 had started.


I'd recommend reading or rereading this thread in the next day or so as it has a few important points. If you are into this kind of thing anyway. 😉

Tomorrow Feb 11, Day 42, is completely contained in Sonnet 18.

SHall I compare thee to a Summers day?
Thou art more louely and more temperate:
Rough windes do shake the darling buds of Maie,
And Sommers lease hath all too short a date:
Sometime too hot the eye of heauen shines,
And often is his gold complexion dimm'd,
And euery faire from faire some-time declines,
By chance,or natures changing course vntrim'd:
But thy eternall Sommer shall not fade,
Nor loose possession of that faire thou ow'st,
Nor shall death brag thou wandr'st in his shade,
When in eternall lines to time thou grow'st,
   So long as men can breath or eyes can see,
   So long liues this,and this giues life to thee,



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