Francis Bacon and the United States of America

[Kate]

Shakespeare, America, Freemasons: Hoping this by-passes or doesn’t contravene the ‘no conspiracy theories please’ directive that Rob sensibly added to the forum, I want to tell you about a podcast I listened to yesterday by a guy called Robert Frederick. 
 

I left a comment on it but I don’t think it has gone through/been accepted, but I’m posting the link to the podcast here to show you that,  outside of the wild extremes of that despicable man, Alex Jones, there are people who sound very persuasive, are probably quite nice people and have lots of correct facts about Bacon and Shakespeare but they are interweaving them with complete ignorance and fiction. 
 

I really enjoyed the production of this  and his smooth voice etc but was tearing my hair out - and you’ll easily hear why.  It is Episode 3 that I listened to, I can’t bring myself to do any more.  I think it’s a public service to advise people just how cleverly riddled with persuasive misinformation (albeit unwittingly, I’m sure he believes he has the facts) this is. My reason for posting besides interest in Bacon is I hope through search engines people land on this as my comment didn’t go through on the podcast and are able to read the threads above and on B’Hive that put out the truth.
 

The podcast is called THE HIDDEN LIFE IS BEST.

Listen on Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/the-hidden-life-is-best/id1567752130?i=1000541118438
 

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I think it’s a public service to advise people just how cleverly riddled with persuasive misinformation (albeit unwittingly, I’m sure he believes he has the facts) this is.

It's tricky. Smooth speakers with false information are hard to stand up to from the sidelines. Especially when they control the dialog on their platforms. Like a clean and sober AA member going to a bar to share how to stop drinking. High risk on many losing levels. Glad you pointed it out though, but for me it's all I can do to find real Truth and Knowledge to feed my brain. I get enough garbage just living in the world! LOL

🙂

 

 

[A Phoenix]

Happy Independence Day!

[Eric Roberts]

3 hours ago, A Phoenix said:

Happy Independence Day!

Gor blimey! 

[A Phoenix]

"Secret Mysteries of America's Beginnings"

We are not sure if people have seen this "Secret Mysteries of America's Beginnings" documentary from 2006 featuring our very own Peter Dawkins which explores the influence of Francis Bacon and his Rosicrucian-Freemasonry Brotherhood and the founding of the United States.

'AFR's newest release deals with the mysterious founding of the greatest nation on earth. The first in the new series, "Secret Mysteries of America's Beginnings" seeks to unfold the fascinating hidden history of early America. Was the dream of a democratic empire envisioned by Queen Elizabeth I? Could this dream have been handed down through secret societies? Who was William Shakespeare - really? And could the new world have been modeled after his dream of a New Atlantis? Learn the incredible secrets of the esoteric traditions, hidden within the manifold layers of signs and symbols in our nation's infrastructure; symbols that for many represent the true intent of America's destiny. Director: Christian J. Pinto Writer: Christian J. Pinto (screenplay) Stars: Lee R. Green, Gay Linn Kirkpatrick, Tony Palacio'

 

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20 hours ago, A Phoenix said:

We are not sure if people have seen this "Secret Mysteries of America's Beginnings" documentary from 2006 featuring our very own Peter Dawkins which explores the influence of Francis Bacon and his Rosicrucian-Freemasonry Brotherhood and the founding of the United States.

I missed it, never knew of it. Thank you for the tip!!

[Kate]

Wince, wince, wince,  In my view, sadly in the first half it's another embarrassing, blinkered 'Masons are all devil worshippers', 'Franklin was secretly debauched' and 'Rosicrucians try to turn lead into gold' narrative, only saved by Peter's presence. It's 2 hours 45 long and the second half is well worth watching for lots of Peter and a far better take on things. Unfortunately most people who we'd (I would) like to understand more, won't watch past the first hour, so it just ramps up the 'Secret group intent on World domination' conspiracy theories.  It's great that this was ever made as it's totally about Bacon, (thanks for sharing it AP) but sad it's now so dated and full of the word occult, pictures of Alistair Crowley, devils with horns and the use of the word Lucifer - eye roll. I notice one of the guys who is an 'expert' is a former Mason. Hmmm

Don't let me put you off though. It's worth a watch.

Anyway, I'm really popping up to say that, in this film, when the guy from the Shakespeare birthplace comes on, he says:

a) that Shakespeare actually existed can be seen by the fact that after his death his friends erected a monument that looked like him. Well we all know this not to be true, as the monument they show is the new one, but also
b) he mentioned about Shakespeare's father being a glove maker. 

I'd forgotten about that. Considering Bacon's work is Kabbalistic (cabalistic) did you know gloves are related to concealment. I checked with AI just in case I had got it wrong. I wonder if this is just a coincidence or if they went as far as to give his father this fictitious job and background? Anyone know how much genuine, indisputable evidence there is that he was a glovemaker?

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4 hours ago, Kate said:

It's 2 hours 45 long and the second half is well worth watching for lots of Peter and a far better take on things. Unfortunately most people who we'd (I would) like to understand more, won't watch past the first hour, so it just ramps up the 'Secret group intent on World domination' conspiracy theories. 

I noticed the length. Maybe it was originally an 8 episode series with commercials. I can't remember the last time I watched a 2 hour movie. Who has that kind of time?

Yea, OK, I spend a couple hours here on the B'Hive many nights. LOL

Survived Hurricane Idalia with no serious problems. We lost power a few hours and have a ton of tree debris to clean up this weekend, but not too bad. I haven't slept since early yesterday and am exhausted. Glad its over. It had some exciting moments but I am getting too old for this much stress. 😉

 

[RoyalCraftiness]

18 hours ago, Kate said:

Wince, wince, wince,  In my view, sadly in the first half it's another embarrassing, blinkered 'Masons are all devil worshippers', 'Franklin was secretly debauched' and 'Rosicrucians try to turn lead into gold' narrative, only saved by Peter's presence. It's 2 hours 45 long and the second half is well worth watching for lots of Peter and a far better take on things. Unfortunately most people who we'd (I would) like to understand more, won't watch past the first hour, so it just ramps up the 'Secret group intent on World domination' conspiracy theories.  It's great that this was ever made as it's totally about Bacon, (thanks for sharing it AP) but sad it's now so dated and full of the word occult, pictures of Alistair Crowley, devils with horns and the use of the word Lucifer - eye roll. I notice one of the guys who is an 'expert' is a former Mason. Hmmm

Don't let me put you off though. It's worth a watch.

Anyway, I'm really popping up to say that, in this film, when the guy from the Shakespeare birthplace comes on, he says:

a) that Shakespeare actually existed can be seen by the fact that after his death his friends erected a monument that looked like him. Well we all know this not to be true, as the monument they show is the new one, but also
b) he mentioned about Shakespeare's father being a glove maker. 

I'd forgotten about that. Considering Bacon's work is Kabbalistic (cabalistic) did you know gloves are related to concealment. I checked with AI just in case I had got it wrong. I wonder if this is just a coincidence or if they went as far as to give his father this fictitious job and background? Anyone know how much genuine, indisputable evidence there is that he was a glovemaker?

I don't know why anyone would watch this or would want to be associated with it. It's the typical low quality fodder that outfits like History channel have aired over the past decades. Adullam films describes itself as a Christian film ministry. They produce American Christian propaganda films. What you've detected are the ornaments of this type of effort and of a certain worldview. They popularize myths that serve them.  They should be called out for it. 

 

Edited August 31 by RoyalCraftiness

[Eric Roberts]

Frontier The Discovery of a Land, 2023

Just aired on TV here in Australia. Only relevant in that it shows what became of Bacon's vision of The New Atlantis. 

Edited September 27 by Eric Roberts

[A Phoenix]

Hi Eric,

Thanks for this, will have a watch. Can't see the link here but for all in the UK you can access it on Channel 5 https://www.channel5.com/show/the-frontier/season-1/the-discovery-of-a-land

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9 hours ago, Eric Roberts said:

Frontier The Discovery of a Land, 2023

Just aired on TV here in Australia. Only relevant in that it shows what became of Bacon's vision of The New Atlantis. 

I'll try to watch it. I love the Wild West, lived out there much of my life. Seeking arrowheads alone in the wilderness was my favorite pastime. 🙂