Kate Posted May 22, 2022 Share Posted May 22, 2022 I have my 🕵🏻 sleuthing hat on again and I was looking at Shakespeare’s monument and the very well-known inscription... note the very slight differences which may be nothing but ... this led me to looking at a book by John Weever, who was very much intertwined with the ‘Shakespeare circle’. He spent three decades noting inscriptions on funeral monuments and produced this book in 1631 (he died shortly after). Curiously, although The Society of Antiquaries hold his notebooks in which he had mentioned Shakespeare’s monument and the inscription, there is no mention of it, or Shakespeare, in this detailed book. There is also no page 33. It skips 32-34. 💥 It contains lots of fascinating info about Saint Alban, Saint German (Germain) and an interesting introduction and of course things about Philip Sidney, the de Veres, Nicholas Bacon and mentions of Francis - although no mention of his burial, even though he had died 5 years before publication. I have taken some screenshots (pinch to enlarge) It’s a book definitely worthy of further scrutiny by contributors or visitors to this forum due to mentions of Apollo and Minerva, Latin inscriptions and other titbits. Kate Note the mention above (in relation to Gorhambury) of Astrologie! 3 "For nothing is born without unity or without the point." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Light-of-Truth Posted May 22, 2022 Share Posted May 22, 2022 Here is a version of Weever's book that has two page 32's. So basically page 33 is mis-numbered as 32. Interesting. https://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?id=gri.ark:/13960/t79s5c364&view=2up&seq=59 3 T A A A A A A A A A A A T 157 www.Light-of-Truth.com 287 <-- 1 8 8 1 1 O 1 1 8 8 1 --> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Light-of-Truth Posted May 22, 2022 Share Posted May 22, 2022 For what its worth, on page 157 and 287, "Saint Albans" is in the 4th line from the bottom of the page. Page 157 https://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?id=gri.ark:/13960/t79s5c364&view=1up&seq=179&skin=2021 Page 287 https://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?id=gri.ark:/13960/t79s5c364&view=1up&seq=307&skin=2021 1 T A A A A A A A A A A A T 157 www.Light-of-Truth.com 287 <-- 1 8 8 1 1 O 1 1 8 8 1 --> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allisnum2er Posted May 22, 2022 Share Posted May 22, 2022 "For what its worth, on page 157 and 287, "Saint Albans" is in the 4th line from the bottom of the page" 😀❤️ Great find Rob , this can effectively be an ingenious way to hide the number 44. Kate, I think that you have made another remarkable discovery and found another gold mine ! 🙏❤️ https://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?id=gri.ark:/13960/t79s5c364&view=1up&seq=9&skin=2021 If the page 33 is misnumbered (32) this is also the case of the page 93 (92) 93 or IC, I see, Iesus Christ. Moreover, the page 102 is missing being also misnumbered ( 103 the simple cipher of SHAKESPEARE) ONE HUNDRED TWO = WILLIAM TUDOR I = 157 simple cipher and 287 Kaye cipher. It can be a way to conceal that WILLIAM TUDOR I (BACON) was SHAKESPEARE. 53 is the simple cipher of POET/SOW/SWAN And 53 is the "De furtivis" cipher of TUDOR. This can be just a coincidence but, interestingly, we have BACON - TUDOR - PILATE interwoven. and the "Pilate" comes from the Latin word "Pilum" meaning SPEAR. I let you discover the "Thirty three" on page 54 😉 https://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?id=gri.ark:/13960/t79s5c364&view=1up&seq=80&skin=2021 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allisnum2er Posted May 22, 2022 Share Posted May 22, 2022 I noticed a space that should not be there in the word "ab le". Here is what I have just found thanks to it.😃 Coincidence ? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allisnum2er Posted May 22, 2022 Share Posted May 22, 2022 What do you think about this one ? 😃 177 is the simple cipher of WILLIAM SHAKESPEARE. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Light-of-Truth Posted May 22, 2022 Share Posted May 22, 2022 Indeed 33 on page 54. Not hard to build some "BACON" in this section. 😉 Funny, July 16 is Day 197 and is mostly contained in Sonnet 84. 84 is the Simple cipher of ELIZABETH. http://www.light-of-truth.com/pyramid-GMT.php#Day197 The cipher numbers of Sonnet 84 are interesting: http://www.light-of-truth.com/pyramid-GMT.php#cipherSonnet084 Simple cipher 183, ONE EIGHTY THREE is 157 Simple and 365 Kaye cipher. Short cipher 39 the same as the Short cipher of ELIZABETH. Kaye cipher 287 the same Kaye cipher as WILLIAM TUDOR I. Modern alphabet 182 Reverse cipher, ONE EIGHTY TWO is 157 Simple and 287 Kaye ciphers. Modern alphabet Short cipher 52, the Simple cipher of WILL. The Sonnets is speaking to Elizabeth, "In whose confine immured is the store - Which should example where your equal grew." In the 26 Tiered design, Day 197 begins the 15th Tier right after the 14th Tier is passed. That would be Day 365 in the 14 Tier design. http://www.light-of-truth.com/pyras10.htm 2 T A A A A A A A A A A A T 157 www.Light-of-Truth.com 287 <-- 1 8 8 1 1 O 1 1 8 8 1 --> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Light-of-Truth Posted May 22, 2022 Share Posted May 22, 2022 10 minutes ago, Allisnum2er said: What do you think about this one ? 😃 177 is the simple cipher of WILLIAM SHAKESPEARE. The words "by any number" works too! 🙂 2 T A A A A A A A A A A A T 157 www.Light-of-Truth.com 287 <-- 1 8 8 1 1 O 1 1 8 8 1 --> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Light-of-Truth Posted May 22, 2022 Share Posted May 22, 2022 (edited) Also curious in the mis-numbered page 102 (numbered 103) are the words "one hundred and three": And the date March 10 which is Day 69 in the Sonnets with the first full line number is 404 on the Sonnets in Sonnet 29: http://www.light-of-truth.com/pyramid-GMT.php#Sonnet029 Look a the cipher numbers of Sonnet 29: http://www.light-of-truth.com/pyramid-GMT.php#cipherSonnet029 157 Simple and 365 Kaye ciphers, and with the 11 letters (lines 2-12) the Simple cipher is 111. The Short cipher is 58 the same as the Short cipher of WILLIAM TUDOR I. Interesting in the Pyramid design with the main 14 Tier Pyramid when we go from Sonnet 66 to Sonnet 67 we enter Day 157. In the Tier design we go from Day 66 to Day 67 and we see the Sonnet 29 cipher numbers with 157 and 365. Plus both Sonnet 29 and Sonnet 67 have the 11 letter Simple cipher of 111. http://www.light-of-truth.com/pyramid-GMT.php#cipherSonnet066 It is so exciting to me! And remember ONE HUNDRED THREE is 157 Simple and 365 Kaye ciphers. Edited May 22, 2022 by Light-of-Truth 2 T A A A A A A A A A A A T 157 www.Light-of-Truth.com 287 <-- 1 8 8 1 1 O 1 1 8 8 1 --> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allisnum2er Posted May 22, 2022 Share Posted May 22, 2022 It is also exciting to me ! 😀 A great Seal can hide another ! 😉 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allisnum2er Posted May 22, 2022 Share Posted May 22, 2022 (edited) Back to page 53 ... https://archive.org/details/ancientfunerallm00weev/page/52/mode/2up It is interesting, isn't it ? (Shake-speare's Monument did not exist yet in 1631.) Edited May 22, 2022 by Allisnum2er 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Light-of-Truth Posted May 22, 2022 Share Posted May 22, 2022 Very interesting!!! 1 T A A A A A A A A A A A T 157 www.Light-of-Truth.com 287 <-- 1 8 8 1 1 O 1 1 8 8 1 --> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A Phoenix Posted May 22, 2022 Share Posted May 22, 2022 JOHN WEEVER REVEALS THAT FRANCIS BACON IS SHAKESPEARE. In 1599 the English poet and antiquary John Weever (1575/6-1632) published his Epigrammes in the Oldest Cut, and Newest Fashion containing epigrams on (among others) to Shakespeare. Very little is known about his early life before he was admitted to Queen’s College, Cambridge on 30 April 1594 where Bacon had been at Trinity College, Cambridge two decades before. Throughout his lifetime Bacon was in continual contact with the professors and grandees of Cambridge University to whom he later dedicated The Wisdom of the Ancients. His visits to Cambridge University may have marked the beginning of his hidden and obscured relationship with Weever who a few years later after his graduation from Cambridge in the spring of 1598 was moving in the same literary circles as Bacon, Jonson, Michael Drayton, Samuel Daniel and John Marston. Sometime after moving to London Weever purchased a house in Gray’s Inn a stone throw away from Bacon’s own private quarters at Gray’s Inn where for the previous two decades he had been de facto Master of the Revels producing masques, plays and other dramatic devices and entertainments. The poem ‘Ad Gulielmum Shakespeare’ in Weever’s Epigrammes (1599) is the earliest known complete poem addressed to Shakespeare and is the only poem in the volume to take the same form of a Shakespearean sonnet which suggests that he may have seen or was in possession of some of the unpublished Shakespeare sonnets which then only circulated in manuscript before their publication a decade later. In 1600 Weever published a curious volume entitled Faunus and Melliflora that commences with an erotic poem in the style of Venus and Adonis but which after a thousand lines abruptly changes to a mythical account of satires. It concludes with comments relating to the burning of the satirical books ordered by the Archbishop of Canterbury on 4 June 1599 and the two satirists Joseph Hall and John Marston who (although of course this is not mentioned by Weever) in a series of satires between 1597 to 1599 revealed that Bacon was the concealed author of the two Shakespeare poems Venus and Adonis and The Rape of Lucrece. In his 1599 volume Epigram no 11 which is also clearly about ‘Shakespeare’ and Venus and Adonis is headed ‘In Spurium quendam scriptorem’ which implies it has been fathered upon some other writer, in other words set forth, behind a living mask or pseudonym. Furthermore, Weever knows the true identity of the concealed author of the Shakespeare poems Venus and Adonis and The Rape of Lucrece, Romeo and Juliet, and the early Shakespeare history plays, which he cryptically reveals for those with eyes to see. The first poem is numbered 11 and the second poem addressed to ‘Ad Gulielmum Shakespeare’ is numbered 22: 11+22=33 Bacon in simple cipher and in the second verse he likens ‘Shakespeare’, whom he knows to be Bacon, to Apollo. Shortly after the supposed death of Francis Bacon in 1626 his private secretary and Rosicrucian Brother Dr William Rawley issued the Memoriae Honoratissimi Domini Francisci, Baronis De Verulamio, Vice-Comitis Sancti Albani Sacrum containing thirty-two Latin elegies wherein eleven of the versifiers held Bacon up as the leader of Apollo and the Nine Muses.1 Herein he is called another Apollo, described as greater than Apollo, and said that Apollo was fearful Bacon would replace him as King of the Muses. In elegy XII we are unreservedly informed that Bacon is Apollo ‘How has it happened to us, the disciples of the Muses, that Apollo, the leader of the choir, should die?’ and in Elegy XXI ‘Apollo, the darling, learned Bacon, of your native land’. In Elegy XXIII Bacon is portrayed as the leader of Apollo and the Muses ‘Think you, foolish traveller, that the leader of the choir of the Muses and of Phoebus is interred in the cold marble?’ and in elegy XX Bacon has replaced Apollo the god of poetry as the tenth muse ‘O Bacon! none, trust me, none will there be. Lament now sincerely, O Clio! and sisters of Clio, ah! the tenth muse and the glory of the choir has perished.’ Likewise, the muses are directly referred to on thirteen occasions: Elegy II …which the power of great Bacon brought forth, a muse more rare than the nine muses...2 Elegy IV The Columbus of Apollo with his lordly crew passes beyond the Pillars of Hercules in order to bestow a new world and new arts. . .Come, mourning Muses, gather frankincense from the heights of Libanus.3 Elegy V Wherefore, ye Muses, would you cultivate the useless laurels of your sad garden?. . .He hath left the living, whom alone it was wont to bear the laurel crown for. Verulam reigning in the citadel of the gods shines with a golden crown;…Than whom no inhabitant of Earth was master of greater intellectual gifts; nor does any survivor so skilfully unite Themis and Pallas. While he flourished the sacred choir of the Muses influenced by these arts poured forth all their eloquence in his praise….4 Elegy IX Muses pour forth your perennial waters in lamentations, and let Apollo shed tears (plentiful as the water) which even the Castalian stream contains…5 Elegy XII How has it happened to us, the disciples of the Muses, that Apollo, the leader of our choir, should die.... Elegy XVIII The day-star of the Muses has set before his hour!...Melpomene rebuking would not endure this; and addressed the dire goddesses in these words:-“Atropos, never before truly cruel; take the whole world, only give me back my Phoebus. Ah! woe is me! neither heaven, nor death, nor the muse O Bacon! nor my prayers prevented your doom. Elegy XIX ….O Bacon! as much as you have given to the world and to the Muses, or if you mean to be a creditor, love, the world, the Muses, Jove’s treasury, prayers, heaven, poetry, incense, grief will stop payment.8 Elegy XX …O Bacon! none, trust me, none will there be. Lament now sincerely, O Clio! and sisters of Clio, ah! the tenth Muse and the glory of the choir has perished. Ah! never before has Apollo himself been truly unhappy! Whence will there be another to love him so? Ah! he is no longer going to have the full number; and unavoidable is it now for Apollo to be content with nine Muses.9 Elegy XXIII Think you, foolish traveller, that the leader of the choir of the Muses and of Phoebus is interred in the cold marble? Away, you are deceived. The Verulamian star now glitters in ruddy Olympus….10 Elegy XXIX ….And you, who were able to immortalize the Muses, could you die yourself, O Bacon?11 Elegy XXX ….and the fountain of the Muses shall have become dry, resolving itself into tiny tears.12 Elegy XXXI …so Death relentless on a day hostile to the Muses smites this man much skilled in warding off a blow.13 1. William Rawley, ed., Memoriae Honoratissimi Domini Francisci, Baronis De Vervlamio, Vice-Comitis Sancti Albani Sacrum (Londoni: In Officini Johannis Haviland, 1626). 2. W. G. C. Gundry, ed., Manes Verulamiani (London: The Chiswick Press, 1950), p. 38. 3. Ibid., p. 39. 4. Ibid., pp. 39-40. 5. Ibid., p. 41. 6. Ibid., p. 41. 7. Ibid., p. 43. 8. Ibid., p. 43. 9. Ibid., p. 43. 10. Ibid., p. 44. 11. Ibid., p. 45. 12. Ibid., p. 46. 13. Ibid., p. 46. [I am primarily indebted for the information about the life and publications of John Weever to David Kathman, John Weever (1575/6-1632), Oxford Dictionary of National Biography (Oxford University Press, 2004-22)] 2 1 https://aphoenix1.academia.edu/ https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCrY7wzlXnZiT1Urwx7jP6fQ/videos Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allisnum2er Posted May 22, 2022 Share Posted May 22, 2022 (edited) Good Evening A Phoenix. You are our indispensable well of knowledge 🙏! I did not know the story of John Weever . Thank you for this insightful historical perspective and masterful presentation. ❤️ Edited May 22, 2022 by Allisnum2er 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A Phoenix Posted May 22, 2022 Share Posted May 22, 2022 Good Evening Yann, it is always a privilege and a pleasure to share with you, Rob and Kate, any evidence, knowledge and information about Bacon-Shakespeare on our combined majestic and sublime journey toward the day when all will be revealed. 3 https://aphoenix1.academia.edu/ https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCrY7wzlXnZiT1Urwx7jP6fQ/videos Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Light-of-Truth Posted May 22, 2022 Share Posted May 22, 2022 With knowing the connection between Weever and Bacon, the mis-numbered pages make sense along with other clues. On page 476 Weever says this about Bacon: https://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?id=gri.ark:/13960/t79s5c364&view=1up&seq=496&skin=2021 Whosoeuer would know further of this king, let him reade his History, wherein hee is delineated to the life, by the matchlesse and neuer enough admired penne of that famous, learned, and eloquent knight, Sir Francis Bacon, not long since deceased, Lord Verulam and Viscount Saint Alban. 3 T A A A A A A A A A A A T 157 www.Light-of-Truth.com 287 <-- 1 8 8 1 1 O 1 1 8 8 1 --> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Light-of-Truth Posted May 22, 2022 Share Posted May 22, 2022 Some further and interesting reading in regard to Weever (starts in page 61): https://sirbacon.org/archives/baconiana/1945_Baconiana_No 115.pdf 4 T A A A A A A A A A A A T 157 www.Light-of-Truth.com 287 <-- 1 8 8 1 1 O 1 1 8 8 1 --> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christie Waldman Posted May 23, 2022 Share Posted May 23, 2022 Mention of John Weever in Cockburn: In N. B. Cockburn, The Bacon Shakespeare Question: The Baconian Theory Made Sane (1998), in a discussion of a Latin play performed at Cambridge, Laelia, Cockburn suggests Laelia may have been a source for Twelfth Night. Two of the men who had acted in the Queen's Day device presented by Essex (written by Bacon, said Spedding and E.K. Chambers) had also performed in the Cambridge performance of Laelia, March 1, 1595 (229-233, 229). They were George Meriton and George Mountaine, we know from John Weever's Eipgrams in the oldest cut and newest fashion (1594-1599) (Epigram 19 in the "Fourth Week") and also a letter (Rowland Whyte to Robert Sidney (229). Cockburn suggests it could be inferred that Bacon, having seen these actors in Laelia, arranged for these two actors to perform in the Essex device for Queen's Day (230). 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kate Posted May 29, 2022 Author Share Posted May 29, 2022 Have we already got this monument up somewhere? Memorial to John Heminge and Henry Condell, London - Wiki https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/3.0/deed.en Credit: Nicholas Jackson 3 "For nothing is born without unity or without the point." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allisnum2er Posted May 29, 2022 Share Posted May 29, 2022 Good evening Kate ! The "b" of "buried" is the only "b" on the plaque which praise John Heminge and Henry Condell. Here is a way to "reveal" Francis Bacon. To the Memory of John Heminge and Henry Condell Fellow Actors and Personal Friends of Shakespeare they lived many years in this parish and are buried here 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kate Posted June 8, 2022 Author Share Posted June 8, 2022 (edited) There’s another monument I’d like to add to the thread, the one of Shakespeare in Wilton House dated 1743.(Wiltonhouse.co.uk) once home to William Herbert (WH). I have just uploaded a video (details in the Bacon and Art section) and at the end of watching it through, the YouTube algorithms pushed me towards a video by Alexander Waugh and I saw reference to it. I’d be most interested to hear what Baconians can see in this inscription. Alexander Waugh videos, especially the ‘they knew’ playlist ie Ben Jonson knew, Weever knew, etc., etc are a goldmine because in many (not all) you can see how he’s misreading clues that actually point to Bacon, so they are well worth watching for that reason, but hats off to him for his entertaining videos and clever graphics and leading me to the Wilton Monument. K Editing to say, I have now seen that Peter Dawkins has done a lengthy video on this memorial so I’m adding it here. Edited June 10, 2022 by Kate 3 "For nothing is born without unity or without the point." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kate Posted June 13, 2022 Author Share Posted June 13, 2022 On 5/22/2022 at 7:16 PM, A Phoenix said: JOHN WEEVER REVEALS THAT FRANCIS BACON IS SHAKESPEARE. In 1599 the English poet and antiquary John Weever (1575/6-1632) published his Epigrammes in the Oldest Cut, and Newest Fashion containing epigrams on (among others) to Shakespeare. Very little is known about his early life before he was admitted to Queen’s College, Cambridge on 30 April 1594 where Bacon had been at Trinity College, Cambridge two decades before. Throughout his lifetime Bacon was in continual contact with the professors and grandees of Cambridge University to whom he later dedicated The Wisdom of the Ancients. His visits to Cambridge University may have marked the beginning of his hidden and obscured relationship with Weever who a few years later after his graduation from Cambridge in the spring of 1598 was moving in the same literary circles as Bacon, Jonson, Michael Drayton, Samuel Daniel and John Marston. Sometime after moving to London Weever purchased a house in Gray’s Inn a stone throw away from Bacon’s own private quarters at Gray’s Inn where for the previous two decades he had been de facto Master of the Revels producing masques, plays and other dramatic devices and entertainments. The poem ‘Ad Gulielmum Shakespeare’ in Weever’s Epigrammes (1599) is the earliest known complete poem addressed to Shakespeare and is the only poem in the volume to take the same form of a Shakespearean sonnet which suggests that he may have seen or was in possession of some of the unpublished Shakespeare sonnets which then only circulated in manuscript before their publication a decade later. In 1600 Weever published a curious volume entitled Faunus and Melliflora that commences with an erotic poem in the style of Venus and Adonis but which after a thousand lines abruptly changes to a mythical account of satires. It concludes with comments relating to the burning of the satirical books ordered by the Archbishop of Canterbury on 4 June 1599 and the two satirists Joseph Hall and John Marston who (although of course this is not mentioned by Weever) in a series of satires between 1597 to 1599 revealed that Bacon was the concealed author of the two Shakespeare poems Venus and Adonis and The Rape of Lucrece. In his 1599 volume Epigram no 11 which is also clearly about ‘Shakespeare’ and Venus and Adonis is headed ‘In Spurium quendam scriptorem’ which implies it has been fathered upon some other writer, in other words set forth, behind a living mask or pseudonym. Furthermore, Weever knows the true identity of the concealed author of the Shakespeare poems Venus and Adonis and The Rape of Lucrece, Romeo and Juliet, and the early Shakespeare history plays, which he cryptically reveals for those with eyes to see. The first poem is numbered 11 and the second poem addressed to ‘Ad Gulielmum Shakespeare’ is numbered 22: 11+22=33 Bacon in simple cipher and in the second verse he likens ‘Shakespeare’, whom he knows to be Bacon, to Apollo. Shortly after the supposed death of Francis Bacon in 1626 his private secretary and Rosicrucian Brother Dr William Rawley issued the Memoriae Honoratissimi Domini Francisci, Baronis De Verulamio, Vice-Comitis Sancti Albani Sacrum containing thirty-two Latin elegies wherein eleven of the versifiers held Bacon up as the leader of Apollo and the Nine Muses.1 Herein he is called another Apollo, described as greater than Apollo, and said that Apollo was fearful Bacon would replace him as King of the Muses. In elegy XII we are unreservedly informed that Bacon is Apollo ‘How has it happened to us, the disciples of the Muses, that Apollo, the leader of the choir, should die?’ and in Elegy XXI ‘Apollo, the darling, learned Bacon, of your native land’. In Elegy XXIII Bacon is portrayed as the leader of Apollo and the Muses ‘Think you, foolish traveller, that the leader of the choir of the Muses and of Phoebus is interred in the cold marble?’ and in elegy XX Bacon has replaced Apollo the god of poetry as the tenth muse ‘O Bacon! none, trust me, none will there be. Lament now sincerely, O Clio! and sisters of Clio, ah! the tenth muse and the glory of the choir has perished.’ Likewise, the muses are directly referred to on thirteen occasions: Elegy II …which the power of great Bacon brought forth, a muse more rare than the nine muses...2 Elegy IV The Columbus of Apollo with his lordly crew passes beyond the Pillars of Hercules in order to bestow a new world and new arts. . .Come, mourning Muses, gather frankincense from the heights of Libanus.3 Elegy V Wherefore, ye Muses, would you cultivate the useless laurels of your sad garden?. . .He hath left the living, whom alone it was wont to bear the laurel crown for. Verulam reigning in the citadel of the gods shines with a golden crown;…Than whom no inhabitant of Earth was master of greater intellectual gifts; nor does any survivor so skilfully unite Themis and Pallas. While he flourished the sacred choir of the Muses influenced by these arts poured forth all their eloquence in his praise….4 Elegy IX Muses pour forth your perennial waters in lamentations, and let Apollo shed tears (plentiful as the water) which even the Castalian stream contains…5 Elegy XII How has it happened to us, the disciples of the Muses, that Apollo, the leader of our choir, should die.... Elegy XVIII The day-star of the Muses has set before his hour!...Melpomene rebuking would not endure this; and addressed the dire goddesses in these words:-“Atropos, never before truly cruel; take the whole world, only give me back my Phoebus. Ah! woe is me! neither heaven, nor death, nor the muse O Bacon! nor my prayers prevented your doom. Elegy XIX ….O Bacon! as much as you have given to the world and to the Muses, or if you mean to be a creditor, love, the world, the Muses, Jove’s treasury, prayers, heaven, poetry, incense, grief will stop payment.8 Elegy XX …O Bacon! none, trust me, none will there be. Lament now sincerely, O Clio! and sisters of Clio, ah! the tenth Muse and the glory of the choir has perished. Ah! never before has Apollo himself been truly unhappy! Whence will there be another to love him so? Ah! he is no longer going to have the full number; and unavoidable is it now for Apollo to be content with nine Muses.9 Elegy XXIII Think you, foolish traveller, that the leader of the choir of the Muses and of Phoebus is interred in the cold marble? Away, you are deceived. The Verulamian star now glitters in ruddy Olympus….10 Elegy XXIX ….And you, who were able to immortalize the Muses, could you die yourself, O Bacon?11 Elegy XXX ….and the fountain of the Muses shall have become dry, resolving itself into tiny tears.12 Elegy XXXI …so Death relentless on a day hostile to the Muses smites this man much skilled in warding off a blow.13 1. William Rawley, ed., Memoriae Honoratissimi Domini Francisci, Baronis De Vervlamio, Vice-Comitis Sancti Albani Sacrum (Londoni: In Officini Johannis Haviland, 1626). 2. W. G. C. Gundry, ed., Manes Verulamiani (London: The Chiswick Press, 1950), p. 38. 3. Ibid., p. 39. 4. Ibid., pp. 39-40. 5. Ibid., p. 41. 6. Ibid., p. 41. 7. Ibid., p. 43. 8. Ibid., p. 43. 9. Ibid., p. 43. 10. Ibid., p. 44. 11. Ibid., p. 45. 12. Ibid., p. 46. 13. Ibid., p. 46. [I am primarily indebted for the information about the life and publications of John Weever to David Kathman, John Weever (1575/6-1632), Oxford Dictionary of National Biography (Oxford University Press, 2004-22)] Hmm. I just took a look at Faunus and Melliflora and we are missing an a but M, for Master or F Bcon is on the page with the Rosicrucian double AA headpiece. Amazing references to Apollo in your post. Thank you for sharing. 3 "For nothing is born without unity or without the point." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allisnum2er Posted June 13, 2022 Share Posted June 13, 2022 (edited) Hi Kate, I do not think that the "a" is missing. On the contrary, this is the most visible letter ! 😉 https://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?id=hvd.32044011235850&view=1up&seq=13&skin=2021&size=125 Could the secret message be : " Me , Worshipful Master F. BACON" ? with W+M = 12 + 21 = 33 = BACON Edited June 13, 2022 by Allisnum2er 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Light-of-Truth Posted June 13, 2022 Share Posted June 13, 2022 Quote Could the secret message be : " Me , Worshipful Master F. BACON" ? with W+M = 12 + 21 = 33 = BACON Love it!! For Kate... WM is W is 21 and M is 12 to make 2112. Two 2's with 11 between? And the 11 can be 1+1=2 to make 222. 2112 always takes me back the Rush album. Just watched this video, caught a few Bacon things but will have to watch again to even get a grip on what Rush was even thinking! Lately even in my non-Bacon world the number 2 is showing up. Of course it was always around, but now it is catching my attention. 😉 2 T A A A A A A A A A A A T 157 www.Light-of-Truth.com 287 <-- 1 8 8 1 1 O 1 1 8 8 1 --> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kate Posted June 24, 2022 Author Share Posted June 24, 2022 Here are the two inscriptions on the 'Twin' Westminster and Wilton Memorials, side by side. I must just say Rob and Lawrence, that it is absolutely brilliant that we are able to amass all this wealth of information pertaining to Francis Bacon and his Rosicrucian 'brotherhood' and the Works of Shakespeare in one place. - all thanks to you. Even though it's only a small group of us posting I can see the numbers of people reading are large and it's providing a wonderful service to open people's minds across the globe. Thank you again 3 1 "For nothing is born without unity or without the point." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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