Kate Posted May 20, 2022 Share Posted May 20, 2022 (edited) Hi I have a little bit of trepidation about posting this as I don’t want to appear foolish, but could this be a hog’s head? I was reading Baconiana for 1892 and I saw this letter. This led me to look at paintings of Shakespeare that had belonged to the Duke of Buckingham - whether it’s this one the writer is referring to or not I don’t know for sure, but I saved it then played around with the exposure. I was looking to find what Shakespeare was pointing to and what I found looked to me like a hog’s head - obv this is an animal we know is associated with Bacon. Then I looked even more closely and could see what appears to be writing. The one above is from Wiki, this is when I played around with it to see what he may be pointing at. If it’s his knee it’s very oddly positioned. Here’s the (potential) writing. It’s actually much clearer but the photo doesn’t show it. I’ll see if I can get a better picture. Look carefully there are large letters with a row of smaller ones right underneath. I wasn’t sure if I had the right image (that this man was referring to back in 1892) so I googled around until I found an 1876 edition of Shakespeare plays. It had the Droeshout Portrait at the front. so I looked closely at that and again, in really high definition, it looks like the artist/engraver has woven something into the background and if you turn it on its side it looks like writing. Straight on however it looks like some sort of emblem. more defined it looks like this That looks a bit like a B. I would imagine this engraving has been scanned and looked at with a microscope by the Folger Library and others on many occasions over the years, but you never know? I will write to them and ask if it has. Kate Edited May 21, 2022 by Kate Typo 3 "For nothing is born without unity or without the point." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kate Posted May 20, 2022 Author Share Posted May 20, 2022 He could just be pointing at the burning lamp which is resting on the book in front of the arm of the chair. This below is from FBRT.org.uk. (Peter Dawkins) “Nay, the same Salomon the king affirmeth directly that the glory of God is to conceal a thing, but the glory of the king is to find it out [Proverbs 25:2], as if according to the innocent play of children the divine Majesty took delight to hide his works, to the end to have them found out; for in naming the king he intendeth man, taking such a condition of man as hath most excellency and greatest commandment of wits and means, alluding also to his own person, being truly one of those clearest burning lamps, whereof himself speaketh in another place, when he saith the spirit of man is as the lamp of god, wherewith he searcheth all inwardness [Proverbs 20:27]…” (Francis Bacon, Valerius Terminus, Of the Interpretation of Nature.) Kate 3 "For nothing is born without unity or without the point." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A Phoenix Posted May 20, 2022 Share Posted May 20, 2022 Hi Kate, we have missed you and your posts. I completely agree with you. It certainly looks like a Hog's head. Regarding the writing. Looking straightforward I think I can see the shape of a Coney (Baconey) on his/her hind legs and when looked at in landscape there does appear to be some small writing and also possibly the initials FB, the letter F being larger than the letter B. It will be recalled that the 1623 First Folio was dedicated to William Herbert, Earl of Pembroke, then Grand Master of England and the letters F and B appear over the Freemasonic headpiece of 1723-5 (one hundred years later: 100 Francis Bacon in simple cipher) edition of the Shakespeare Sonnets by the poet and Freemason Alexander Pope and Dr Sewell. Great Work, Kate. 2 https://aphoenix1.academia.edu/ https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCrY7wzlXnZiT1Urwx7jP6fQ/videos Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kate Posted May 20, 2022 Author Share Posted May 20, 2022 (edited) Thank you AP ☺️ What I haven’t told you is that I was looking back to the 1800s due to the astrology! I’ll post about that in a separate place later or over the weekend. It’s all getting curiouser and curiouser, because I’ve looked at the writing in more filters and it says S (although it looks like a B until you really zoom in) and then the next line appears to say Essex! I’d say that with 90% certainty. It’s difficult to show here but the E is right next to his arm. it looks like a B just above it (not the large letter). There is writing under the word Essex too. Also under the desk is a strange shape thing. It looks like either a soft crown-like hat, almost like Maharajah’s wear with a jewel in the centre which would rest between the eyebrows. Maybe you know what that may be? It might be something else but that’s what it looks like. 99% sure it’s a jewel. Kate Edited May 20, 2022 by Kate 2 "For nothing is born without unity or without the point." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A Phoenix Posted May 20, 2022 Share Posted May 20, 2022 Like you say Kate, it becomes curiouser and curiouser. Maybe Yann can shed some more light on it. 1 https://aphoenix1.academia.edu/ https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCrY7wzlXnZiT1Urwx7jP6fQ/videos Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Light-of-Truth Posted May 20, 2022 Share Posted May 20, 2022 Quote What I haven’t told you is that I was looking back to the 1800s due to the astrology! Just curious, Kate. Few things in my life this week, this morning (and yesterday) being a peak on multiple levels with multiple threads of importance. We had a full Lunar eclipse earlier this week, I have looked at the Sonnets and posted where we are with plenty of significance. I see planets every morning in the eastern sky as the sun is rising. Hurricane season is about to kick in. Lot going on. My wife retires at the end of next week. Curious what the charts are showing. 🙂 1 T A A A A A A A A A A A T 157 www.Light-of-Truth.com 287 <-- 1 8 8 1 1 O 1 1 8 8 1 --> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allisnum2er Posted May 21, 2022 Share Posted May 21, 2022 (edited) This is awesome Kate ! Great work ! 😃 You're totally right. And now I do not see anything other but this Hog's Head ! 😄 The fact is that I examined this Portrait last week (synchronicity !) and I planned to share my findings in the next few days. So I believe that it is the right time, and the right place. Notice that in Chesterfield Portrait, Shakespeare's right hand is placed on the First Folio that is open right in its middle. This is a reference to Mediocria Firma , Francis Bacon's motto (The Middle Way is safe). And it is an invitation to take a look at the middle of the Book. There are 907 pages in the First Folio. So let's take a look at the 453th page and at the 454th page. The play is "The First Part of Henry the Sixth" (Pages 99 and 100) https://internetshakespeare.uvic.ca/Library/facsimile/book/Bran_F1/453/index.html%3fzoom=1200.html https://internetshakespeare.uvic.ca/Library/facsimile/book/SLNSW_F1/454/index.html%3Fzoom=850.html https://www.pinterest.fr/pin/constellation-of-the-gemini-galaxy-antique-map-of-the-moon--675258537884557414/ To conclude , here is something that I noticed in an engraving of Georges Vertue ... https://www.britishmuseum.org/collection/object/P_1868-0822-5113 Edited May 21, 2022 by Allisnum2er 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kate Posted May 21, 2022 Author Share Posted May 21, 2022 (edited) Thanks Yann. That Mermaid Tavern picture is interesting. That’s Bacon at the back, yes? Got to love those men in tights eh! I’ll have a closer look at that. Regarding my comment about what is under the desk, I realise I hadn’t posted an image to show it, so here it is. It could be a skull I guess, but looking at it in many hues it is definitely a jewel in the middle so I think it’s a hat. The hand in the book is also pointing to the V on the cloth, this V is symbolic of the number 5 (beauty, harmony, love) and of the downward pointing triangle. Looks like a W further down? By the way, the S May also be the number 5. Also, re your message Rob, as Moderator you’ll know best, but my feeling is that in order to keep these matters separate it may be best to reply to you about that in the thread I created the other day about Bacon and Astrology. I’ll hop over there now. Kate Edited May 21, 2022 by Kate To add about S perhaps being the number 5 3 "For nothing is born without unity or without the point." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allisnum2er Posted May 21, 2022 Share Posted May 21, 2022 (edited) It could be a reference to Robert Dudley, Queen Elizabeth's Lover and the real father of Francis Bacon. http://www.tudorbritain.org/joust/popup9.asp Edited May 21, 2022 by Allisnum2er 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kate Posted May 22, 2022 Author Share Posted May 22, 2022 Love the Robert Dudley symbol in the link, Yann. I also notice, now I look again at the Chesterfield image, that the collar is literally pointing to the word Essex. Does this somehow refer to the Earl(e) of Essex, Robert Devereaux? Here’s another paper from Peter Dawkins entitled Francis Bacon, Shakespeare & the Earl of Essex. https://www.fbrt.org.uk/wp-content/uploads/2020/06/Francis_Bacon_Shakespeare__the_Earl_of_Essex.pdf Kate 2 "For nothing is born without unity or without the point." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A Phoenix Posted May 22, 2022 Share Posted May 22, 2022 Hi Kate, Bacon's cousin Sir Henry Wotton wrote an interesting work entitled A Parallel between the late Robert, Earl of Essex and George, late Duke of Buckingham (1641) wherein he compared the two Elizabethan and Jacobean favourites. 2 1 https://aphoenix1.academia.edu/ https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCrY7wzlXnZiT1Urwx7jP6fQ/videos Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kate Posted May 25, 2022 Author Share Posted May 25, 2022 (edited) On 5/20/2022 at 5:41 PM, Kate said: He could just be pointing at the burning lamp which is resting on the book in front of the arm of the chair. This below is from FBRT.org.uk. (Peter Dawkins) “Nay, the same Salomon the king affirmeth directly that the glory of God is to conceal a thing, but the glory of the king is to find it out [Proverbs 25:2], as if according to the innocent play of children the divine Majesty took delight to hide his works, to the end to have them found out; for in naming the king he intendeth man, taking such a condition of man as hath most excellency and greatest commandment of wits and means, alluding also to his own person, being truly one of those clearest burning lamps, whereof himself speaketh in another place, when he saith the spirit of man is as the lamp of god, wherewith he searcheth all inwardness [Proverbs 20:27]…” (Francis Bacon, Valerius Terminus, Of the Interpretation of Nature.) Kate Just noticed another thing about the lamp. While reading Ryan Murtha’s excellent PDF in The Esoteric Francis Bacon (on this forum) I noticed this So Yann’s observation of the finger in the middle of the book coupled with the lamp alludes strongly to Bacon. We now just need to definitively link the hat(?) under the table and the word Essex at the point of the collar. Kate One other thought. No artist would paint a picture of Shakespeare and cut off half his name. The first thing one thinks of is, it’s deliberate and conceals a code, like Yann mentioned, but the other option is that there is a larger picture and, if so, what else has been cut off? I need to check if all images show it truncated. It may just be that it was cropped by whoever uploaded it to Wiki. Further comment: just scrolled back and OMG, Yann, you are right. It’s not a hat, it’s a bear. The eye is visible. Edited May 25, 2022 by Kate 3 "For nothing is born without unity or without the point." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kate Posted May 25, 2022 Author Share Posted May 25, 2022 (edited) Another finding. I think I’m getting hang of this! The Mirrour of Eloquence about Bacon came out in 1656. In 1719 this engraving was done by George Vertue. The word Mirrour is in the inscription and if we play around with the hues again, the letter F is revealed in the centre left. Over to the bottom right there is some writing. So far I can only make out something that may be Latin. It looks like Sairno? There may be 3 or 4 lines. I can make out other letters but, so far, not complete words. Kate The shadow bottom left forms a B. Ignore the word brilliance. That’s the light setting. Edited May 25, 2022 by Kate 2 "For nothing is born without unity or without the point." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A Phoenix Posted May 25, 2022 Share Posted May 25, 2022 Great find Kate. Just took a quick look and the verse on the plinth which gives the mirror clue contains 11 roman letters (Shakespeare) and 28 italic words: 11+28=39 F. Bacon in simple cipher. 2 https://aphoenix1.academia.edu/ https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCrY7wzlXnZiT1Urwx7jP6fQ/videos Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A Phoenix Posted May 25, 2022 Share Posted May 25, 2022 FRANCIS BACON AND THE ANONYMOUS 1620 TRANSLATION OF BOCCACCIO'S DECAMERON PRINTED BY ISAAC JAGGARD (PRINTER OF THE 1623 SHAKESPEARE FIRST FOLIO) WHOSE SPECIAL TITLE PAGE CONTAINS ELABORATE DECORATIVE IMAGES REPRESENTING THE LETTERS FB. The original Italian and the early French translation of Boccaccio's Decameron were drawn upon by Bacon as a source of inspiration for some of his Sonnets (in particular sonnet 38) and used as a source for Romeo and Juliet, Troilus and Cressida, The Merry Wives of Windsor, The Two Noble Kinsmen, Cymbeline, The Winter's Tale and All's Well That Ends Well. A little known anonymous translation of the Decameron appeared in 1620 whose translator has hitherto never been determined. Long after its publication some scholars wrongly attributed it to John Florio and in more recent times some Oxfordians have suggested it was translated by the Earl of Oxford, which, of course, falls beneath serious notice. The article on 'THE SECRET, HIDDEN, AND OBSCURED, RELATIONSHIP BETWEEN FRANCIS BACON AND THE JAGGARDS, PRINTERS AND PUBLISHERS OF HIS ESSAYS AND THE FIRST FOLIO OF THE SHAKESPEARE WORKS' extensively revealed and confirmed the connection between Lord Bacon and the Jaggard family. The anonymous translation of the Decameron was printed by Isaac Jaggard who with his father William Jaggard printed and published the Shakespeare First Folio. It is my understanding that the translation is dedicated to Philip Herbert, Earl of Montgomery, to whom with his brother William Herbert, Earl of Pembroke (then Grand Master of England), Lord Bacon dedicated the Shakespeare First Folio. The title page of the 1620 anonymous translation of the Decameron is of some especial interest. The whole page has 69 italic letters, 22 words which with the addition of the date (1+6+2+0=9): 69+22+9=100 Francis Bacon in simple cipher and moreover the page contains 72 roman letters which added to the 22 words and the addition of the date: 72+22+9=103 Shakespeare in simple cipher, conveying the concealed cryptographic message that Francis Bacon is Shakespeare. The title page is adorned with what appears to be sixteen elaborate decorative images which on closer inspection are representations of the letters FB for Francis Bacon (some of which are mirror images). It should be noted that the whole page contains 141 letters which when added to the 16 'FB's' equals 157 Fra Rosicrosse in simple cipher. 2 1 https://aphoenix1.academia.edu/ https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCrY7wzlXnZiT1Urwx7jP6fQ/videos Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allisnum2er Posted May 25, 2022 Share Posted May 25, 2022 1 hour ago, Kate said: Another finding. I think I’m getting hang of this! The Mirrour of Eloquence about Bacon came out in 1656. In 1719 this engraving was done by George Vertue Another great finding Kate ! 😃 A quick message from my office to tell you that thanks to you we have a new candidate using the special "w" ! 😉 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kate Posted May 25, 2022 Author Share Posted May 25, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, Allisnum2er said: Another great finding Kate ! 😃 A quick message from my office to tell you that thanks to you we have a new candidate using the special "w" ! 😉 Oh yes! So we do in words and just look at the three F’s in the inscription too. With the B in the shadow it’s a 🎯 is Fancy Features (of the) Face, asking us to look more closely at the face? The mouth area is strange. Thanks Yann and thanks, as ever, to AP (and Rob) for the continual nuggets. Come on onlookers, join the forum and chip in! Kate PS. Can we have a ‘wow’ button Rob! I wanted to use one for all the FB’s on that cover AP posted! Edited May 25, 2022 by Kate 3 "For nothing is born without unity or without the point." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Light-of-Truth Posted May 25, 2022 Share Posted May 25, 2022 Quote PS. Can we have a ‘wow’ button Rob! I'll look into. 🙂 1 T A A A A A A A A A A A T 157 www.Light-of-Truth.com 287 <-- 1 8 8 1 1 O 1 1 8 8 1 --> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A Phoenix Posted May 25, 2022 Share Posted May 25, 2022 (edited) Hi Grand Master Kate, in the absence of a WOW button-for your brilliant find this will have to do for now: WOW, WOW, AND ONCE AGAIN, WOW. Edited May 25, 2022 by A Phoenix 2 1 https://aphoenix1.academia.edu/ https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCrY7wzlXnZiT1Urwx7jP6fQ/videos Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Light-of-Truth Posted May 25, 2022 Share Posted May 25, 2022 I added a Wow! button. I may keep me eyes open for a better icon, but we have Wow! now. 😉 1 2 T A A A A A A A A A A A T 157 www.Light-of-Truth.com 287 <-- 1 8 8 1 1 O 1 1 8 8 1 --> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kate Posted May 25, 2022 Author Share Posted May 25, 2022 Ha! Thank you! Didn’t mean for it to be used for me. Much obliged. K 3 "For nothing is born without unity or without the point." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Light-of-Truth Posted May 25, 2022 Share Posted May 25, 2022 Kate, you have earned many Wows. 🙂 2 1 T A A A A A A A A A A A T 157 www.Light-of-Truth.com 287 <-- 1 8 8 1 1 O 1 1 8 8 1 --> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allisnum2er Posted May 25, 2022 Share Posted May 25, 2022 6 hours ago, A Phoenix said: FRANCIS BACON AND THE ANONYMOUS 1620 TRANSLATION OF BOCCACCIO'S DECAMERON PRINTED BY ISAAC JAGGARD (PRINTER OF THE 1623 SHAKESPEARE FIRST FOLIO) WHOSE SPECIAL TITLE PAGE CONTAINS ELABORATE DECORATIVE IMAGES REPRESENTING THE LETTERS FB. The original Italian and the early French translation of Boccaccio's Decameron were drawn upon by Bacon as a source of inspiration for some of his Sonnets (in particular sonnet 38) and used as a source for Romeo and Juliet, Troilus and Cressida, The Merry Wives of Windsor, The Two Noble Kinsmen, Cymbeline, The Winter's Tale and All's Well That Ends Well. A little known anonymous translation of the Decameron appeared in 1620 whose translator has hitherto never been determined. Long after its publication some scholars wrongly attributed it to John Florio and in more recent times some Oxfordians have suggested it was translated by the Earl of Oxford, which, of course, falls beneath serious notice. The article on 'THE SECRET, HIDDEN, AND OBSCURED, RELATIONSHIP BETWEEN FRANCIS BACON AND THE JAGGARDS, PRINTERS AND PUBLISHERS OF HIS ESSAYS AND THE FIRST FOLIO OF THE SHAKESPEARE WORKS' extensively revealed and confirmed the connection between Lord Bacon and the Jaggard family. The anonymous translation of the Decameron was printed by Isaac Jaggard who with his father William Jaggard printed and published the Shakespeare First Folio. It is my understanding that the translation is dedicated to Philip Herbert, Earl of Montgomery, to whom with his brother William Herbert, Earl of Pembroke (then Grand Master of England), Lord Bacon dedicated the Shakespeare First Folio. The title page of the 1620 anonymous translation of the Decameron is of some especial interest. The whole page has 69 italic letters, 22 words which with the addition of the date (1+6+2+0=9): 69+22+9=100 Francis Bacon in simple cipher and moroever the page contains 72 roman letters which added to the 22 words and the addition of the date: 72+22+9=103 Shakespeare in simple cipher, conveying the concealed cryptographic message that Francis Bacon is Shakespeare. The title page is adorned with what appears to be sixteen elaborate decorative images which on closer inspection are representations of the letters FB for Francis Bacon (some of which are mirror images). It should be noted that the whole page contains 141 letters which when added to the 16 'FB's' equals 157 Fra Rosicrosse in simple cipher. Good evening A Phoenix. I just have to say that this is Fabulously Brilliant !!! ❤️ 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kate Posted May 26, 2022 Author Share Posted May 26, 2022 Did anyone have any thoughts on the word on the clothing? K "For nothing is born without unity or without the point." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allisnum2er Posted May 26, 2022 Share Posted May 26, 2022 46 minutes ago, Kate said: Did anyone have any thoughts on the word on the clothing? K Hi Kate, I am not sure for the text bacause I think that it is easy to see what we want to see. You say that you see "SAIRNO". If we admit that this is not a O but a C, and taking in count what looks like an "f" on its right, we have "SAIRNCF" that is an angram of "FRANCIS" ! In contrast (in both senses of the word 😀), I clearly see a face. And I don't know why but my first thought was " MEDUSA". 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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