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Some readers may immediately recoil at the positioning of the word Astrology in a section on science. As you can read from this fascinating paper on academia.edu by H. Darrel Rutkin, however, Francis Bacon did mention astrology and how it could be profitably applied (see 2nd image, first half of page) to certain subjects, but only within a certain degree of specificity. 

I’d be interested to see other papers or images added to this thread showing any mention of astrology by FB.

Just to be clear. Astronomy is the study of the heavens and its physical movements.

Astrology gives meaning, through the language of symbolism, correlation and correspondence to those movements. The microcosm is mirrored in the macrocosm and vice versa. This was a central tenet of the ancient wisdom teachings.

I’ll also add in here the cover page of Lilly’s Christian Astrology. Lilly and Ashmole were inextricably linked.

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Rob (Light of Truth) asked me a question about astrology on the thread entitled ‘Another New Exciting Discovery’. I indicated that I’d answer here to keep all the astrology stuff in one place. Before I answer his question about what’s going on with the planets at this time, I just want to take the opportunity to expand on the subject a little more...

Astrology is often ridiculed as many people are ignorant (i.e., in the dark) about what it actually is.  So for anyone reading, very simplistically speaking; astrology and astronomy were once indivisible. The 12-fold division of the heavens following the path of the Sun (Tropical Zodiac) as viewed from Earth (Geocentric)was used as far back as the 4/5th Century BC. Looking at the heavens and finding meaning however, is as old as Mankind itself.

Later in time when Hipparchus formally demarcated the Vernal Equinox as the First Point of Aries around 130BC, the increasing movement of the equinoctial point away from the constellation of Aries (due to precession of the equinoxes it’s approx 1 degree backwards slippage every 72 years) meant that eventually the Vernal Equinox gradually began to appear in Pisces and not Aries. 

With the rise of organised religion the Catholic Church increasingly denounced any form of reading meaning from the heavens (they called it divination) as paganism. They wanted to control the narrative!  Consequently ...

The Church Fathers were willing to impose strong sanctions against astrology to protect their flocks. In A.D. 120, the noted mathematician Aquila Ponticus was excommunicated from the Church at Rome for astrological heresies. Augustine records that such sanctions were still in force in his day, three centuries later, and could result in a person’s being excommunicated.” - Catholic.com

This continued throughout the centuries.

So, by the time of the spread of wider education for the common people, and the rise of “science” in the 17th C, the two systems started to become publicly divorced from each other, although privately many still used Astrology.

With the formalisation by the IAU of coordinate systems and the fixing of the location of the Prime Meridian to Greenwich in the 1800s, science and spirituality became further divided and modern astrology was born. 

Astronomers began to openly deride Astrology when Sun Sign horoscopes appeared in the Press in the 1930s and it became wrongly assumed to be synonymous with psychic ability and end-of-pier fortune telling. Any scientist who supported astrology would quickly be “cancelled”. A few tried - like Dr Percy Seymour - but at great cost to their career.

The distinction between astronomy and astrology nowadays is that Astronomers look up at the sky and constellations and they measure by Right Ascension and Declination around and from the Celestial Equator (The Equatorial System). They do not attribute meaning to the movements.
 

Meanwhile, Astrologers don’t look up at the sky anymore. They use books called Ephemerides (or nowadays computer software) and a system based on Celestial Longitude and Latitude measured around and from the Ecliptic (Ecliptic System). It utilises 12 divisions of 360° - although there are 13 constellations -  and these divisions are called signs and no longer align to the constellations of the same name.

Astrology is based on an amalgamation of symbolism, correspondence and correlation utilising the angular geometric relationship between points in the circle.  So to divide 360 by 4 is 90°= square. Divide by 3 is 120°= trine (triangle) Divide by 5 = 72° = Quintile etc., and just like musical notes in a score can be translated into music by the musician, these alignments can translate into meaning to the person who speaks the language of astrology. 

Human Consciousness seems somehow allied or synchronised to nature’s geometry and life seems to unfold in repeating cycles and spirals. No direct causation is attributed to the planets rather it’s all seen as part of an indivisible unity of ‘above and below’.  As the ancients knew, there’s an essential oneness to the universe.

To answer your question then Rob, Jupiter just changed signs on 11 May and there was also a Sun/Moon opposition (a Full Moon, eclipse) 5 days later and Mercury is in retrograde motion, so all these things correlate to shifts in the pace of life and focus. Jupiter in Aries is the start of a new 12-year cycle where Jupiter spends around a year in each of the 12 signs. The sign of Aries is seen to pick up the pace of events and can be impulsive, hot headed, fast, combative, competitive, warmongering and whips things up, but also it correlates to added impetus, new beginnings, new conditions that will mark out the next 12 years.  

It coincided with the crash of cryptocurrencies.

The Lunar Eclipse was in a particularly potent part of the 360 degrees related to finances and also all lunar eclipses tend to bring things to a head or a peak then draw things to a close and a new beginning. However a confluence of major cycles are active at this time and for the rest of this year, so for the collective, astrologers will say this is going to be a year full of big change and transformation.
 

That’s a bit vague for you I know Rob, but one has to look at each individual’s birthchart or at the chart of countries or businesses or even to the publication of books to determine what’s unfolding more precisely, so I’ll post about what I saw in the chart of the First Folio from 1623 later.

Kate

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There is a great site, packed full of old astrological texts, some of which predate Bacon, here http://www.skyscript.co.uk/books.html

There are a number of articles and papers about John Dee (Queen Elizabeth 1st's Astrologer) and two particularly good articles on the Monas Hieroglyphica by Dylan Warren Davies, who was another 'teacher' of mine, to whom I am eternally indebted, dating back 25 years. http://www.skyscript.co.uk/monas.html (2 links in there).

Please do not think of astrology as 'Oh, are you a Virgo, are we compatible' and all that. It is the most ancient of arts and I'd go as far as to say that without an understanding of ancient astrology one can't hope to really understand the 'as above, so below' Hermetic axiom.

Pluto moves into the tropical sign of Aquarius in March 2023 and permanently in Jan 2024 (it shifts out in 2023 due to retrograde motion, hence the two dates). Francis Bacon was an Aquarian. The 400th anniversary will see some sort of incredible transformation of attitude around Francis Bacon as author but by 2024/5 it'll be in full swing. You heard it here first!

By the way, if Sir Bacon is 25 years old this coincides with when we'd expect to see the 'enterprise' either restructure and go to a new level or to fold, as it will be its first 'Saturn Return'. One way or another then, the truth of who wrote Shakespeare will  likely surface in the next 2-5 years.

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Strange day today. Three website crises which is very unusual. One was a big popular website that the host shutdown claiming it was using too many resources, which it was not. At one point someone mentioned something with the poles was happening, then I remembered five planets were in conjunction peaking when I woke up this morning. I said, "There we go! We know what's happening now!" LOL

I'm sure that is totally off-base, but funny you bring up Astrology as I was thinking about you, Kate! 🙂

 

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1 hour ago, Kate said:

By the way, if Sir Bacon is 25 years old this coincides with when we'd expect to see the 'enterprise' either restructure and go to a new level or to fold, as it will be its first 'Saturn Return'.

As long as either Lawrence or I am alive, SirBacon.org will survive. And we'll make certain it lives on after we are gone. So I don't see it "folding", unless the NSA takes it down for sharing too many secrets. 😉

 

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Just been alerted to a 1929 book 

https://archive.org/details/cumberland-clark-shakespeare-science-9781906267391
 

which is all about the astrology and study of natural phenomena in the plays of Shakespeare. 
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The author denounces the possibility that Bacon could be the author in the first few pages, but I’m posting as it’s a great book about Astrology in Elizabethan times and contains innumerable possibilities for those with the eyes to see, to observe parallels between Bacon’s words and Shakespeares.

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Thank you Kate !🙏 

I would like to share with you a great synchronicity.

Yesterday evening, I wondered if I should share, or not, something that I discovered 5 years ago.

It revolves around the constellations and I evidently thought of you, because your expertise would be welcome to expand this discovery.

And believe me or not, in the chain of the events that led me to this finding, I found a coin from the 18th century engraved for PRINCE WILLIAM, Duke of CUMBERLAND.

So, I had Prince William Cumberland in mind yesterday evening, and today you share a Book on Astrology written by ... CLARK CUMBERLAND !

I think that it is the sign that Time has come to share my discovery. 🙂 

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Hi Kate, I will share away, I promess ! I am working on it ! 😊 Please note that Prince William, Duke of Cumberland appeared, as I said , in a chain of events in the course of my research. He is not involved (as far as I know) in any astrologic work. I found the token  'by chance' on ebay thanks to its reverse. Then, I discovered its observe with the portrait of the Duke of Cumberland. 

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"No Roses without Thorns"

(Except Rosa sine Spina 😉 )

 

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14 hours ago, Light-of-Truth said:

Hmmm, a worn "Rosa sine Spina" coin (1547 to 1603) sells reasonably when available. I'd love an old Elizabethan coin to hold onto when thinking of Bacon.

Indeed, two Three Farthings (1561) would be a good Remuneration 😉 

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