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Regarding the 32+1 (Minerva) characters on the fresco and the reference to Hamlet , it reminded me that The Tragedy of Hamlet was the 32nd Play of the First Folio.

As I was taking a look at the Catalogue of the Plays on page 17 of the First Folio, something caught my eyes, something that I had missed until today ...

https://internetshakespeare.uvic.ca/Library/facsimile/book/SLNSW_F1/17/index.html%3fzoom=1275.html

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40 minutes ago, Light-of-Truth said:

Gazing at this image of Bacon. I am pointing to a few things that catch my eye...

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Regarding the date, it says that between 1577 and 1578 Francis Bacon stays in Poitiers and frequentes student circles of the Law School.

Edit : Notice that both Francis Bacon and "Hamlet" wear a blue garment ! 😉 

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30 minutes ago, Allisnum2er said:

Regarding the 32+1 (Minerva) characters on the fresco and the reference to Hamlet , it reminded me that The Tragedy of Hamlet was the 32nd Play of the First Folio.

As I was taking a look at the Catalogue of the Plays on page 17 of the First Folio, something caught my eyes, something that I had missed until today ...

https://internetshakespeare.uvic.ca/Library/facsimile/book/SLNSW_F1/17/index.html%3fzoom=1275.html

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152 is the Kaye cipher WILLIAM. Just to toss that out there.

The number 152 is a number we know, here is one example:

 

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5 minutes ago, Allisnum2er said:

I asked myself the same question ! 🙂 

My initial split-second thought was the "High Priestess." But with the hanging lamp I cannot tell if this figure is male or female. And the images I Googled rarely have the High Priestess with her arms raised.

So I think I was mistaken. 😉

 

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8 minutes ago, Light-of-Truth said:

My initial split-second thought was the "High Priestess." But with the hanging lamp I cannot tell if this figure is male or female. And the images I Googled rarely have the High Priestess with her arms raised.

So I think I was mistaken. 😉

 

My initial split-second thought was "Diane de Poitiers" (Diane/Artemis/Luna/Dictynna/Britomartis/ Queen Elizabeth) but I probably confuse my wishes with reality 😅

Blog J&L Paris - Diane de Poitiers, du père au fils?!

https://www.jl-paris.com/paris-blog-lifestyle-culture-art/gossip-fr/diane-de-poitiers/

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Hmm, a guess would be Pope Eugene IV or King Charles VII?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/University_of_Poitiers

Founded in 1431 by Pope Eugene IV and chartered by King Charles VII, the University of Poitiers was originally composed of five faculties: theology, canon law, civil law, medicine, and arts

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6 minutes ago, Allisnum2er said:

I really don't know !

My second split-second thought was "the goddess cybele" with the two lions replaced by the two men.

https://www.livius.org/articles/religion/cybele/

Thank you for something else new to learn!

Where do you store all this amazing Knowledge! You must have a HUGE brain!! 🙂

Of course Cybele appears on SirBacon.org with Mather Walker mentioning a time or so:

https://sirbacon.org/mff.htm

In Canaan the goddess Anat goes down into the underworld to recover Baal who has been slain by Mot and thus brought the barren curse upon the earth. She kills Mot and scatters him like grain in the fields and the earth becomes fertile again. In Anatolia and Rome the myth of Cybele and Attis was very similar to that of Venus and Adonis. In Greece Adonis, lover of Aphrodite (Venus), is killed by a boar. Adonis is the god of vegetation.

 

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5 minutes ago, Allisnum2er said:

And my last thought was "Alchemia".

https://decoder-eglises-chateaux.fr/cathedrales-monuments-alchimistes/

Notice that one of the two men by her side looks down, and the other one looks up.

"As above, so below"

Just an idea !

 

I noticed the poses for sure. I figured you'd already know who they were and why they were posed as they were! LOL

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3 hours ago, Allisnum2er said:

Hi everyone,

I would like to share with you something that I have just found.

This is probably already known by the Baconians, but just in case ...

My last research led me to Scévole de Saint Marthe.

Scévole de Saint Marthe led me to the University of Poitiers.

https://www.univ-poitiers.fr/choisir-luniversite/decouvrir-luniversite-de-poitiers/histoire-depuis-1431/

And Francis Bacon also studied for a time at the Universty of Poitiers when he was in France between 1576 and 1579.

On the book cover at the bottom of the web page, I recognized

Francis Bacon at the foot of the Statue of Minerva, the Spear-shaker,  with the missing arm holding her spear.

And on the left of BACON we have a reference to ... HAMLET !😀

Moreover, if we count Minerva as one of the characters, there are 33 characters in total.

The fresco was painting by Pierre Girieud  in 1931 .

 

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Hi Yann. Thank you for pointing out the Poitiers mural. Even though it's 20th Century and amateurish in comparison with the Renaissance and Baroque murals it imitates, it certainly makes a statement about the University's rich history. The "portrait" of Francis as a youth seems to be clumsily derived from the Hilliard miniature, not much resemblance but the pose is the same and the Elizabethan ruff more or less confirms this. I'm not so sure about the three figures sitting and crouching beside Bacon. Does it represent the grave scene from Hamlet or a group of philosophers discussing mortality? And what is the title of the book so prominently displayed at Francis Bacon's feet? Thanks for sharing this little known mural.

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1 minute ago, Allisnum2er said:

Well spotted Rob ! Evidently, the Gemini Castor and Pollux pointing to 3 and 3 !👍❤️

Wow! Yann! I bet you are on the mark!

I suspect the middle figure is King George VII due to the history and tradition of the school. When was this fresco painted?? I'm having a hard time coming with any facts.

Bacon was an important alumni, as were a few other important names.

Now I wonder what Bacon came out of that school with on his mind. When I was 16 and 17 I was drinking beer, partying in the woods, driving an old beat up 1969 Rambler, and chasing girls. LOL

King George VII image from 1468?:

https://www.meisterdrucke.ie/fine-art-prints/French-School/520146/Ms-1468-fol.1-The-Author-Offers-his-Book-to-King-Charles-VII,-from-Les-Chroniques-de-Monstrelet-.html

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8 hours ago, Eric Roberts said:

The "portrait" of Francis as a youth seems to be clumsily derived from the Hilliard miniature, not much resemblance but the pose is the same and the Elizabethan ruff more or less confirms this.

Hi Eric,

Indeed, I recognized the reference to the Hilliard miniature.

https://www.npg.org.uk/collections/search/portrait/mw115306/Francis-Bacon-1st-Viscount-St-Alban

And I wonder if his right arm could be another reference !

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https://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:William_Shakespeare..jpg

(Notice the roses on his Buckle Shoes 🙂 )

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19 minutes ago, Allisnum2er said:

Hi Eric,

Indeed, I recognized the reference to the Hilliard miniature.

https://www.npg.org.uk/collections/search/portrait/mw115306/Francis-Bacon-1st-Viscount-St-Alban

And I wonder if his right arm could be another reference !

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File:William Shakespeare..jpg

https://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:William_Shakespeare..jpg

(Notice the roses on his Buckle Shoes 🙂 )

Hi Yann. Have you been able to find a detailed description of the mural anywhere? So far, I've struck out.

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5 minutes ago, Eric Roberts said:

Hi Yann. Have you been able to find a detailed description of the mural anywhere? So far, I've struck out.

Alas, NO ! 😞 Last night, I expected to find a detail description of the mural and its characters in a blog or a french website dedicated to the University of Poitiers. But until now I found nothing except some informations about the story of these paintings.

http://www.pierregirieud.fr/fiche_fresque.php

"In 1930, he (Pierre Girieud) was commissioned to symbolize Le Droit (LAW), Les Lettres (LETTERS), La Médecine (MEDICINE) and Les Sciences  (SCIENCES )on mounted canvas on the walls of the Council Chamber of the University of Poitiers. This decor will be presented at the Orangerie des Tuileries, making Girieud the first living painter to exhibit there. The complex was inaugurated in 1933 .
These canvases had disappeared. They were rediscovered one day, by chance, in 1991 by Mr. Yves-Bernard Brissaud, teacher at the Faculty of Law of Poitiers, in the attic of this Faculty.
They were then restored from 2002 by Mr. Benoît Dagron then put back in place on September 15, 2004 in the Salle du Conseil René Savatier."

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3 hours ago, Allisnum2er said:

Alas, NO ! 😞 Last night, I expected to find a detail description of the mural and its characters in a blog or a french website dedicated to the University of Poitiers. But until now I found nothing except some informations about the story of these paintings.

http://www.pierregirieud.fr/fiche_fresque.php

"In 1930, he (Pierre Girieud) was commissioned to symbolize Le Droit (LAW), Les Lettres (LETTERS), La Médecine (MEDICINE) and Les Sciences  (SCIENCES )on mounted canvas on the walls of the Council Chamber of the University of Poitiers. This decor will be presented at the Orangerie des Tuileries, making Girieud the first living painter to exhibit there. The complex was inaugurated in 1933 .
These canvases had disappeared. They were rediscovered one day, by chance, in 1991 by Mr. Yves-Bernard Brissaud, teacher at the Faculty of Law of Poitiers, in the attic of this Faculty.
They were then restored from 2002 by Mr. Benoît Dagron then put back in place on September 15, 2004 in the Salle du Conseil René Savatier."

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Thank you Eric !🙏 On my part, I also finally found something, and it is written in english ! 🙂 

http://www.pierregirieud.fr/fiche_tableau_gb.php?tabl=790

http://www.pierregirieud.fr/fiche_biblio_gb.php?bibl=344

"Above the door, the University sits, the wall crown in the head, clasping his arms, under the folds of his wide cloak, two figures symbolizing the Past, overwhelmed by the weight of his experience, and the Future, who, with his head held high, looks up to heaven."

My problem is that if there is a Goddess called Uni, there is no Goddess University.

And the wall crown was one of the attributes of the Goddesses CYBELE  and  TYCHE (FORTUNA 😉  ) !

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tyche

And Tyche was the mother of PLUTUS !

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Istanbul - Museo archeol. - Tyche e Plutone - sec. II d.C. - Foto G. Dall'Orto 28-5-2006.jpg

Polychrome marble statue depicting the goddess Tyche holding the infant Plutus in her arms, 2nd century AD. Istanbul Archaeological Museum

https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Istanbul_-_Museo_archeol._-_Tyche_e_Plutone_-_sec._II_d.C._-_Foto_G._Dall'Orto_28-5-2006.jpg

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I'm still dealing with "real" stuff today, but a few Google searches on the fly I see if Pierre Girieud was not a Rosicrucian, he was definitely well connected. Several links pop up.

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I apologize, by "real" I mean what pays my bills. Truly it is not as real as what we do on the B'Hive.

To have electricity in my home, I need to do "real" stuff that to me is so much less important..

LOL

 

 

 

 

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