A FUNERALL Elegye

[Light-of-Truth]

What is this about?? 1612 or 1622?

A Funeral Elegy

In 1989, using a form of stylometric computer analysis, scholar and forensic linguist Donald Foster attributed A Funeral Elegy for Master William Peter,^[19] previously ascribed only to "W.S.", to William Shakespeare, based on an analysis of its grammatical patterns and idiosyncratic word usage.^[20] The attribution received extensive press attention from The New York Times and other newspapers.

Later analyses by scholars Gilles Monsarrat and Brian Vickers demonstrated Foster's attribution to be in error, and that the true author was probably John Ford. Foster conceded to Monsarrat in an e-mail message to the SHAKSPER e-mail list in 2002.^[21][22]

More:

https://sirbacon.org/links/funeralelegy.html

Are these lines below anonymous "W.S." or Bacon? I hear Bacon.

Whose name is like to liue a longer day.

Though not in eminent courts, or places great,

For popular concourse; yet in that soile

Where hee inioy'd his birth, life, death, and seat,

Which now sits mourning his vntimely spoile.

And as much glory is it to be good;

For priuate persons, in their priuate home;

As those descended from illustrious bloud,

In publick view of greatnesse: whence they come.

Though I rewarded with some sadder taste,

Of knowing shame; by feeling it haue prou'd

My countries thanklessse misconstruction; cast

Vpon my name and credit, both vnlou'd

By some, whose fortunes sunck into the wane

Of Plenty and Desert, haue stroue to win

Iustice by wrong; and sifted to imbane

My reputation, with a witlesse sinne,

Yet Time, the Father of vnblushing Truth,

May one day lay ope malice which hath crost it:

And right the hopes of my indangered youth,

Purchasing credit in the place I lost it.

 

 

EDIT: I want to add a few mores lines that appear later...

 

Whiles Parents to their children will make known,

And they to their posterity impart,

How such a man was sadly ouerthrowne,

By a hand guided by a cruell heart.

 

I'd love to see a facsimile to make the Bacon acrostic, and likely Will as well.

 

Maybe Bacon's pain is what inspires us to seek his Truth. Bacon, Shakespeare, should die on top if the world, yet suffered knowing he was so much more. If Elizabeth was able to call him William in public, we would not be doing what we are doing. Bacon would have written Shakespeare as William Tudor, nothing to hide, Elizabeth's son. (My theory anyway...)

 

Edited March 27, 2022 by Light-of-Truth

[Light-of-Truth]

OK, just playing my Baconian mind game a bit...

😉

W.S.

What do you see?

I see W is 21 simple cipher, as 2 (B) and 1 (A) is BA, hinting at Bacon.

S is 18 Simple cipher, or reduced 1+8=9.

9 is 3x3 (or 33) as I have seen before by other Baconians.

9 is the letter "I".

"I" is sometimes a clue to "eye'.

EYE is 33 Simple cipher.

That is also something I've seen before, not any discovery of mine, but previously mentioned by other Baconians in the past. "I is EYE, 33."

I have seen the letter "I" pop up in the Sonnets pyramid where an eye should be. So I believe there is a connection with the letter "I" and the 33 Simple cipher word "EYE" in Key places. And by now I do also see where "I" could be 33 in the right places (3x3=9, or an "S" being 18 or 1+8).

So W.S. could be "BA - 33".

Just sharing a bit. On my way to bed, my head swimming with Bacon numbers and ciphers. Makes my life the Bliss that it is. 🙂

 

 

[Allisnum2er]

Thank you so much Rob !

I did not know this "Elegye" nor its history.

The true author would probably be John Ford ? LOL 😄

You are totally right. All is about BACON !

Like you I'd like to see a facsimile to see the Acrostic and the Capital Letters in the text.

But here is what I found so far, at first glance.

As I read your post, I immediatly saw MAP in acrostic.

And I thought : "  What if it was a reference to the T.T. MAP of Shake-speare's Sonnets?"

Yet Time, the father of unblushing Truth,
May one day lay ope malice which hath crossed it,
And right the hopes of my endangered youth,
Purchasing credit in the place I lost it.
 

   And here is what I found in the Elegye :

Sith as that ever he maintained the same?
Oblivion in the darkest day to come,
When sin shall tread on merit in the dust,

SOW (Son of Wisdom , Son of the Widow)

Warrant enough in his own innocence
Against the sting of some in nature bad.
Yet who is he so absolutely blest

I suspect that the "Mid" is not so far 🙂 

Now therein lived he happy, if to be
Free from detraction happiness it be.
His younger years gave comfortable hope
To hope for comfort in his riper youth,
Which, harvest-like, did yield again the crop
Of education, bettered in his truth.
Those noble twins of heaven-infused races,
Learning and wit, refined in their kind
Did jointly both, in their peculiar graces,
Enrich the curious temple of his mind;

Free = 33 = BACON and the twins of heaven (Castor and Pollux)

Respect most in itself, as who would scan
His honesty and worth, by them might prove
He was a kind, true, perfect gentleman.
Not in the outside of disgraceful folly,
Courting opinion with unfit disguise,
Affecting fashions, nor addicted wholly
To unbeseeming blushless vanities,
But suiting so his habit and desire
As that his virtue was his best attire.
Not in the waste of many idle words
Cared he to be heard talk, nor in the float
Of fond conceit, such as this age affords,
By vain discourse upon himself to dote; (verse 100)
For his becoming silence gave such grace

F. BACON - BACON - GRACE = 33 = BACON

100 is the cimple cipher of FRANCIS BACON

So that he dies but once, but doubly lives,
Once in his proper self, then in his name;
Predestinated time, who all deprives,
Could never yet deprive him of the same.
And had the genius which attended on him
Been possibilited to keep him safe
Against the rigor that hath overgone him,
He had been to the public use a staff,
Leading by his example in the path
Which guides to doing well, wherein so few
The proneness of this age to error hath
Informed rightly in the courses true.

             BACON - William Tudor I -Genius

ALEPH ( Hebrew letter A = 111 = BACON Kaye cipher)

But whether doth the stream of my mischance
Drive me beyond myself, fast friend, soon lost,
Long may thy worthiness thy name advance
Amongst the virtuous and deserving most,
Who herein hast forever happy proved:
In life thou lived'st, in death thou died'st beloved.

                      BACON was a LAWYER

 

                       Thank you again , Rob !

 

[A Phoenix]

Hi Yann, ABSOLUTE MASTERCLASS!

[A Phoenix]

Hi Rob, thank you for bringing the Elegy written by Bacon-Shakespeare to the attention of B'Hive!

[Allisnum2er]

5 hours ago, Light-of-Truth said:

OK, just playing my Baconian mind game a bit...

😉

W.S.

What do you see?

I see W is 21 simple cipher, as 2 (B) and 1 (A) is BA, hinting at Bacon.

S is 18 Simple cipher, or reduced 1+8=9.

9 is 3x3 (or 33) as I have seen before by other Baconians.

9 is the letter "I".

"I" is sometimes a clue to "eye'.

EYE is 33 Simple cipher.

That is also something I've seen before, not any discovery of mine, but previously mentioned by other Baconians in the past. "I is EYE, 33."

I have seen the letter "I" pop up in the Sonnets pyramid where an eye should be. So I believe there is a connection with the letter "I" and the 33 Simple cipher word "EYE" in Key places. And by now I do also see where "I" could be 33 in the right places (3x3=9, or an "S" being 18 or 1+8).

So W.S. could be "BA - 33".

Just sharing a bit. On my way to bed, my head swimming with Bacon numbers and ciphers. Makes my life the Bliss that it is. 🙂

 

 

And as you said in a previous post : W.S. = 39 (24 letters simple and Kaye cipher) that is the simple cipher (24 letters) of F. BACON.

Moreover, W.S. = 42 ( 26 letters simple and Kaye cipher), 42 being  a very important number !

Masonic apron (Master) - A.S.S.R Working

Hoalinh - Own work.

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[Allisnum2er]

A bug in the Matrice or a clue ? 😀

It is time for me to investigate the year 1764 ! 🙂 

[Allisnum2er]

Just now, Allisnum2er said:

A bug in the Matrice or a clue ? 😀

It is time for me to investigate the year 1764 ! 🙂 

Oh  it is just 42 * 42  !!! 🤭 My apologies !