Sacred Geometry on Title Pages

[peethagoras]

Original artwork before 1609 Sonnets changes:

1: Hayward, 'Concerning Succession', 1603.

Modified artwork (as in sonnets title):

1: Shakes-peares 'Sonnets', 1609. Title.
2: Drummond, 'Poems', Edinburgh, 1616: "Flowres" Title.
3: Ben Jonson, 'Workes', 1616.

Note: Jonson knew Drummond, in fact, he walked to Scotland to visit him. Both published using Sonnets version header in 1616: same year WS died.

Note: both published seven years after Sonnets. (not counting 1609)
Sonnets (Aspley) title page shows seven lines of text. Seventh line is 'date' 1609: reduces to seven.

Seven rays of light come from head of the little boy:

Note Ben Jonson's son Benjamin died age seven. Could this be his son?

     sonnet 7

  LOe in the Orient when the gracious light, *
Lifts up his burning head,each under eye
Doth homage to his new appearing sight,                       
Serving with lookes his sacred majesty,
And having climb'd the steepe up heavenly hill,
Resembling strong youth in his middle age,
Yet mortall lookes adore his beauty still,    *
Attending on his goulden pilgrimage:
But when from high-most pich with wery car,
Like feeble age he reeleth from the day,
The eyes(fore dutious )now converted are
From his low tract and looke an other way:
   So thou,thy selfe out-going in thy noon:
   Unlok'd on diest unlesse thou get a sonne.

* Line seven word seven gracious begins with seventh of alphabet.

* Line seven word seven "still" another word for dead.

First seven letters of line seven are:  "Yet mort"    ?

Ben Jonson's elegy is called “On My First Son” for his eldest son, who died of  plague in 1603 when he was just seven years old.

1603 to 1609 all the years = seven (counting 1603).

    Here's the little head isolated from the main artwork:

 

[Light-of-Truth]

10 hours ago, peethagoras said:

I see a serpent biting an ankle, as per Old Testament. I do not see a dolphin, it is either a lion (as in dande-lione) or a dog  as in dog-rose). It's all

vegetation.

I did scan the thread and am not sure what image you speak about.

Any clues will help me if I can offer anything. 🙂

 

[Light-of-Truth]

5 hours ago, peethagoras said:

Original artwork before 1609 Sonnets changes:

1: Hayward, 'Concerning Succession', 1603.

Modified artwork (as in sonnets title):

1: Shakes-peares 'Sonnets', 1609. Title.
2: Drummond, 'Poems', Edinburgh, 1616: "Flowres" Title.
3: Ben Jonson, 'Workes', 1616.

Note: Jonson knew Drummond, in fact, he walked to Scotland to visit him. Both published using Sonnets version header in 1616: same year WS died.

Note: both published seven years after Sonnets. (not counting 1609)
Sonnets (Aspley) title page shows seven lines of text. Seventh line is 'date' 1609: reduces to seven.

Seven rays of light come from head of the little boy:

Note Ben Jonson's son Benjamin died age seven. Could this be his son?

     sonnet 7

  LOe in the Orient when the gracious light, *
Lifts up his burning head,each under eye
Doth homage to his new appearing sight,                       
Serving with lookes his sacred majesty,
And having climb'd the steepe up heavenly hill,
Resembling strong youth in his middle age,
Yet mortall lookes adore his beauty still,    *
Attending on his goulden pilgrimage:
But when from high-most pich with wery car,
Like feeble age he reeleth from the day,
The eyes(fore dutious )now converted are
From his low tract and looke an other way:
   So thou,thy selfe out-going in thy noon:
   Unlok'd on diest unlesse thou get a sonne.

* Line seven word seven gracious begins with seventh of alphabet.

* Line seven word seven "still" another word for dead.

First seven letters of line seven are:  "Yet mort"    ?

Ben Jonson's elegy is called “On My First Son” for his eldest son, who died of  plague in 1603 when he was just seven years old.

1603 to 1609 all the years = seven (counting 1603).

    Here's the little head isolated from the main artwork:

 

The number 7 keeps popping in my world yesterday and today. 🙂

But I am kind of lost in the above thread. Please share what images you are discussing. You can link to images or refer or copy/paste from the thread, etc. The "little head" is familiar of course, but I can't place it anywhere in particular.

I'm lost in my own research hoping to post something tonight, but always eager to be up on what everyone else talks about here.

[Allisnum2er]

57 minutes ago, Light-of-Truth said:

I did scan the thread and am not sure what image you speak about.

Any clues will help me if I can offer anything. 🙂

 

Hi Rob,

I think that Peethagoras talks about this image ...

Hi Peethagoras,

I will answer you that, for me, a Serpent with wings is a DRAGON.😊

And for me, those are Dolphin's Heads. This is very similar to the way Dolphins were portrayed at that Time.

https://collections.lacma.org/node/2279932

https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:French_early_16th_Century,_"You_Are_Tying_a_Dolphin_by_the_Tail"_(fol._17_recto),_c._1512-1515,_NGA_86049.jpg

https://www.metmuseum.org/art/collection/search/189350

 

 

[Light-of-Truth]

2 hours ago, Allisnum2er said:

And for me, those are Dolphin's Heads. This is very similar to the way Dolphins were portrayed at that Time.

Love the Two Cupids riding Dolphins!

Here are two of my favorites:

And here is another one with two Dolphins:

[Light-of-Truth]

Seeking explanation about Leicester's "mechanical dolphin" of 1575

 

Greenblatt's Will in the World describes elaborate festivities that the Earl of Leicester staged in 1575 for the visiting Queen Elizabeth I:

In the single most extravagant entertainment Leicester staged for the queen during her long stay, a twenty-four-foot-long mechanical dolphin rose up out of the waters of the lake adjacent to the castle. On the back of the dolphin -- in whose belly was concealed a consort of wind instruments -- sat the figure of Arion, the legendary Greek musician, who sang, as Langham put it, "a delectable ditty" to the queen....

Wikipedia's account calls the dolphin a "float", but whether it floated or was borne in a parade like a modern "float", I can't tell.

Of what was such a "mechanical dolphin" constructed? Could it really have borne musicians and wind instruments while immersed in a lake? What lifted it out of the lake?

 

Dolphins have a very long history with our culture. 🙂

For fun, knowing ORION is 67 Simple cipher:

https://internetshakespeare.uvic.ca/Library/facsimile/book/SLNSW_F1/273/index.html%3Fzoom=850.html

[peethagoras]

Hi Rob apologies for non-clarity.

Hi Allisnum2er. One man's  snake is another man's dragon. (That's a sηake-speare quote 😄

 

Genesis 3:14,

So the LORD God said to the serpent, 'Because you have done this, cursed are you above all the livestock and all the wild animals! You will crawl on your belly and you will eat dust all the days of your life.

From this passage one can only be left with the notion that the serpent was at first able to walk or fly.

Genesis 3:15

I will put enmity between you and the woman,
and between your offspring and her offspring;
he shall bruise your head,
and you shall bruise his heel.”

In my opinion, this is what the original sonnets title artwork contains: a serpent biting the heel and being injured in return.

Revelation 12:9 and 20:2 both describe Satan as a serpent. "He seized the dragon, that ancient serpent, who is the devil, or Satan, and bound him for a thousand years" (Revelation 20:2). "The great dragon was hurled down, that ancient serpent called the devil, or Satan, who leads the whole world astray. He was hurled to the earth, and his angels with him" (Revelation 12:9).

       Snakes with wings are a type of dragon known as an Amphiptere

An Amphiptere; meaning bi-winged,is a type of winged serpent found in European heraldry.

Amphiptere by Edward Topsell (1608). The History of Four-Footed Beasts and Serpents (Woodcuts), published in 1658.

As for that "dolphin": the grotesque beast shown in the sonnets ornamental headpiece is constructed from vegetation, one can link the garden of Eden with these beasts, and also to the serpent-dragons and Genesis chapter 3.

The sonnets beasts have legs by the way, also ears, and a tail which ends in a flower head.  Dolphins have none of these.

If they really were meant to be dolphins, what are those tongue-like things?

 

 

[Light-of-Truth]

2 hours ago, peethagoras said:

The sonnets beasts have legs by the way, also ears, and a tail which ends in a flower head.  Dolphins have none of these.

If they really were meant to be dolphins, what are those tongue-like things?

I sure don't know, but dolphins in Bacon's time don't look much like real dolphins. This one is from 1579:

https://gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/btv1b8608301g/f246.item

It is similar to the ones in the headpiece 1607:

https://www.loc.gov/resource/rbctos.2017gen58402c2/?sp=33&r=0.213,0.102,0.409,0.329,0

[peethagoras]

There is certainly a good resemblence to that dolphin, at least in the face, bu what about those legs?

Or am I seeing it all wrong?

 

 

 

 

[Light-of-Truth]

1 hour ago, peethagoras said:

There is certainly a good resemblence to that dolphin, at least in the face, bu what about those legs?

Or am I seeing it all wrong?

I see fins or waves, but that's just me.

Dolphins in heraldry have a funny look to them. I live in Florida where we can see dolphins every day if we want. They don't look like the engravings. LOL

https://www.businessinsider.com/powers-of-queen-elizabeth-ii-swans-dolphins-longest-reign-2015-9