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Two weeks ago, I received a mail in connection with another one of my passions, a mail of which the content fit exactly with our discussions of that day.
The mail referred to John Dee , the Rose Compass , and the number 365.

For me, it was a "sign".

I had absolutely no doubt in my mind that this mail contained an important key to advance in my searching.
One name was mentionned, Humphrey Moseley.
I learned that he was a prominent London publisher and bookseller in the middle seventeenth century and that he had published Sir Francis Bacon and William Shake-speare.

"On 9 September 1653, Moseley registered the play Cardenio as the work of William Shakespeare and John Fletcher, and plays titled Henry I and Henry II as
the work of Shakespeare and Robert Davenport. On 29 June 1660, he registered three plays, The History of King Stephen, Duke Humphrey, a Tragedy,
and Iphis and Iantha, or A Marriage Without a Man, a Comedy (a treatment of Ovid's story of Iphis and Ianthe) – all allegedly by Shakespeare
."  - Wikipedia 

I knew that I was on the right path, but I felt that I was missing a piece of the puzzle.

And I finally find it !

Another name was concealed in that mail, the name of a man, SIR JOHN SUCKLING , and the name of one of his play, AGLAURA, published for the first time in 1638 and reprinted
by Humphrey Moseley in his octavo collection of Suckling's works, Fragmenta Aurea, in 1646 and 1648. 

https://books.google.fr/books?id=ohGOBQfvezQC&pg=RA1-PA6&lpg=RA1-PA6&dq=fragmenta+aurea+suckling+aglaura&source=bl&ots=8fZxZi9_SN&sig=ACfU3U2qFiDHqU7eEqCsGuXUeQy_-JJZNw&hl=fr&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwidrfixxML2AhVU14UKHToWANE4ChDoAXoECBcQAw#v=onepage&q=fragmenta aurea suckling aglaura&f=false

The play is about a Prince, the Prince of Persia.

For the anecdote, it echoes a post that I made the day before my finding , a post explaining that 44 was the gematria of CHOL the Hebrew word for PHOENIX and SAND (OF TIME !).

The fact is that when I wrote SAND (OF TIME!) I had The Prince of Persia : The sands of Time  in mind.

Indeed, this is the name of a video game I played when I was younger and also the name of a film .  All is connected !!! 😊

Here are two of the interesting things that I found in the Play :

ROTA(S) the Latin for WHEEL(S) page 33 (BACON - simple cipher)

TWO - FAMA on page 58 ( BACON - "De furtivis" cipher)

 

But the most important regarding John Suckling is a Portrait that was painted in 1638 by Anthony van Dyck, a Portrait of Sir John Suckling holding a ... SHAKESPEARE FOLIO !

One year ago, I watched a video by Alexander Waugh explaining that this Portrait was another proof that Edward De Vere, the 17th Earl of Oxford, was Shake-speare.

The Time has come to bring a fresh look at this Portrait, with a Baconian point of view !

I respect the work of Mr Waugh, however he missed one important point : there is no one but two Portraits that were painted by Anthony van Dyck in 1638.

WITH FRANCIS BACON / SHAKE-SPEARE ALL WORKS BY TWO.

First of all, I invite you to watch the following superb video about the Portrait by "The Frick Collection"


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AND HERE IS WHAT I FOUND !

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COULD ANTHONY VAN DYCK, LORD GEORGE STUART AND SIR JOHN SUCKLING KNOW FRANCIS BACON'S SECRETS ?

INDEED !

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Notice that  Sir John Suckling, as a Cavalier poet, was also closed to Ben Jonson.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sons_of_Ben_(literary_group)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cavalier_poet

Moreover, Anthony van Dyck and Ben Jonson shared the same muse : Venetia Stanley.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Venetia_Stanley

https://www.poetryexplorer.net/poem.php?id=10076756

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THE BOOKMARK

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(Thanks to the work of Rob, Light-of-Truth, on the number 102)

If you want more information about the number 102 :

 

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For more information about Francis Bacon and HAMLET:

Take a look at the great work of A. Phoenix on this subject "FRANCIS BACON AND HIS EARLIEST SHAKESPEARE PLAY HAMLET A TUDOR FAMILY TRAGEDY" 

https://sirbacon.org/a-phoenix/

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Hi Yann,

I vaguely remember someone saying that Lord Bacon could makes more connections than anyone else who ever lived simply because he knew more. 

How on earth even your agile, subtle and complex mind makes some of these connections is certainly a wonder to us. Surpassing and Sublime! Keep up the great work.👍🙂♥️  

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I LET YOU IMAGINE MY SURPRISE WHEN I DISCOVERED THE SECRETS OF THE PAGES 152, 153 and 154 OF HENRY VI (PART III) !

 

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For more information about Francis Bacon and the crown'd Bowl :

 

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FIAT can also be seen as a reference to the words of the Virgin Mary in Luke 1:38 :

"And Mary said, Behold the handmaid of the Lord; be it unto me according to thy word. And the angel departed from her."

The Annunciation of the Phoenix :

I.N.R.I

Iesus Nazarenus Rex Iudaeorum

or

Igne Natura Renovatur Integram

 

For more information about "Phoenicias" in the Droeshout Portrait :

 

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For more information about the sonnet 143 and the number 143 :

 

To be continued ...

 

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"For shame, my Liege, make them your President"

Why "President" instead of "precedent" ? An error ?

NO, IT IS A CLUE !

The word "President" appears a second time in the First Folio, in the play "Antony and Cleopatra" act III scene 7

 

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I solved the Enigma of "The Book of the Kings" right in time ! 🙂 

I choose to post my take on the Portrait of John Suckling today because we are the 17th of march or 17/03 (R.C.)

Imagine the smile on my face discovering in "The Book of the Kings" a reference  to a passage in 2. Chronicles 3 : 17   😀

THERE IS NO COINCIDENCE.

SIR FRANCIS BACON / SHAKE-SPEARE, MASTER OF THE ROSIE-CROSS, WAS INVOLVED IN THE EDITION OF THE KING JAMES BIBLE.

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https://archive.org/details/1611TheAuthorizedKingJamesBible/page/n445/mode/2up?q=king

https://archive.org/details/1611TheAuthorizedKingJamesBible/page/n541/mode/2up?q=king

 

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There is another artist thread connecting Bacon and Suckling.

William Marshall,  the engraver.

https://www.npg.org.uk/collections/search/portrait/mw132863/Sir-John-Suckling?LinkID=mp04363&role=sit&rNo=2

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SUCKLIN is 136 Kaye cipher, the Simple cipher of BACON-SHAKESPEARE.

SUCKLIN is 84 Simple cipher the same as ELIZABETH.

Marshall did an engraving of Elizabeth too.

https://www.npg.org.uk/collections/search/portrait/mw126379/Queen-Elizabeth-I?LinkID=mp13298&role=art&displayNo=60&wPage=1&rNo=114

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Of course Suckling was a poet with some respect, so might be just a coincidence. I would venture a guess that Marshall was well aware of Bacon's secrets. He worked with George Withers also. It is curious though, "SUCKLIN (spelled that way) whose numbers could invite Alike to wonder and delight"

 

 

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59 minutes ago, Light-of-Truth said:

There is another artist thread connecting Bacon and Suckling.

William Marshall,  the engraver.

https://www.npg.org.uk/collections/search/portrait/mw132863/Sir-John-Suckling?LinkID=mp04363&role=sit&rNo=2

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SUCKLIN is 136 Kaye cipher, the Simple cipher of BACON-SHAKESPEARE.

SUCKLIN is 84 Simple cipher the same as ELIZABETH.

Marshall did an engraving of Elizabeth too.

https://www.npg.org.uk/collections/search/portrait/mw126379/Queen-Elizabeth-I?LinkID=mp13298&role=art&displayNo=60&wPage=1&rNo=114

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Of course Suckling was a poet with some respect, so might be just a coincidence. I would venture a guess that Marshall was well aware of Bacon's secrets. He worked with George Withers also. It is curious though, "SUCKLIN (spelled that way) whose numbers could invite Alike to wonder and delight"

 

 

Great finding, Rob !

Notice that Thespian (the 18th word) and Delphick (the 21th word) are in bold as well as the W.M of W.Marshall (but not in the engraving of Elizabeth)

18 + 21 = 39 the simple count of F. BACON 🙂 

If we take the first word "SUCKLIN" in count, it gives us 18 + 21 + 1 = 40 or Four T , the Cross.

W(21) + M(12) = 33 = BACON (simple cipher) and the acronym of Worshipful Master

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The mail referred to John Dee , the Rose Compass , and the number 365.

Studying your entire thread, I am still on Mosely (with some previous research), Suckling, Van Dyck (which has also come up in research lately with the Bacon's last portrait artist), and Thomas Howard (who seems to be popping up everywhere with everyone). There is quite a web woven all relating to and with Bacon. You brought it together for us! And names from other threads appear in my research as well; Withers, Hollar, I even came across Sir Christopher Wren. All woven together, and more.

Henry Jermyn, Earl of St Albans came up who A. Phoenix mentioned a while back in another post. All in this Baconian web you started to weave that is taking on a life of its own from a letter your received! 🙂

Back to the beginning, Rose Compass and 365 have come up.

What about Dee? I am very interested in Dee.

Bacon is my passion. I have him appear in dreams, I feel his presence when deep into cipher work directing me on some level. But Dee, he has come right out of the past and told me stories that I can almost hear audibly, and I could ask him questions with getting answers back. 😉

Dee is missing from your discovery. Did he come up?

EDIT: Just read this piece that suggests a son of Sir John Davies who worked with Dee married one of poet Sir John Suckling's sisters.

http://roy25booth.blogspot.com/2009/08/lucky-to-have-got-there-in-one-piece.html

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8 hours ago, Light-of-Truth said:

Dee is missing from your discovery. Did he come up?

Hi Rob,

Dee did not come up directly from my discovery, but few days ago I made another finding that brought me to the page of a book ( the one with the 183 characters of the Title page 🙂 ) talking about a "compass" and another page of the same book talking about Dee, without mentionning his name, and with F. BACON concealed !  More to come ... 😉 

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The mention of Dee's Aztec mirror caught my attention in that article. 😉

The cabinet of curiosities was born, a place where you could see a dried mermaid, a cyclops skull, red coral, carved mother of pearl, the sword of Charlemagne, an Aztec obsidian mirror and a painting by Teniers.

https://www.smithsonianmag.com/smart-news/magic-mirror-used-by-queen-elizabeth-is-court-astrologer-has-aztec-origins-180978830/

So if Dee spent time with mirrors and crystals attempting to communicate with "Angels" or whoever is available in the future, how do we intercept those messages today?

Are there windows from the past just floating around that Dee put out there, waiting for someone to peek through back in time?

I have to say it is possible based on a few spontaneous experiences I have had.

 

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