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Let's start with Ben Jonson's 1616 "On Poet-Ape".

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Poor Poet-Ape, that would be thought our chief,
   Whose works are e'en the frippery of wit,
From brokage is become so bold a thief,
   As we, the robb'd, leave rage, and pity it.
At first he made low shifts, would pick and glean,
   Buy the reversion of old plays;  now grown
To a little wealth, and credit in the scene,
   He takes up all, makes each man's wit his own:
And, told of this, he slights it.  Tut, such crimes
   The sluggish gaping auditor devours;
He marks not whose 'twas first: and after-times
   May judge it to be his, as well as ours.
Fool!  as if half eyes will not know a fleece
   From locks of wool, or shreds from the whole piece?

By the way, POET-APE is 74 Simple, 101 Reverse, 29 Short, and 152 Kaye ciphers.

WILLIAM is exactly the same four numbers: 74 Simple, 101 Reverse, 29 Short, and 152 Kaye ciphers.

Let's look at Wither's Emblem 14 (or 22) in Book 1:

https://digital.libraries.psu.edu/digital/collection/emblem/id/935

Most of us have probably seen this with the idea that it is Willy pretending to be Bacon:

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WHat though an Apish-Pigmie, in attire,
His Dwarfish Body Gyant-lyke, array?
Turne Brave, and get him Stilts to seem the higher?
What would so doing, handsome him I pray?
Now, surely, such a Mimicke sight as that,
Would with excessive Laughter move your Spleene,
Till you had made the little Dandiprat,
To lye within some Auger-hole, unseene.
  I must confesse I cannot chuse but smile,
When I perceive, how Men that worthlesse are,
Piece out their Imperfections, to beguile,
By making showes, of what they never were.
For, in their borrow'd-Shapes, I know those Men,
And (through their Maskes) such insight of them have;

That I can oftentimes disclose (ev'n then)
How much they savour of the Foole or Knave.
  A Pigmey-spirit, and an Earthly-Minde,
Whose looke is onely fixt on Objects vaine;
In my esteeme, so meane a place doth finde,
That ev'ry such a one, I much refraine.
But, when in honour'd Robes I see it put,
Betrimm'd, as if some thing of Worth it were,
Looke big, and on the Stilts of Greatnesse, strut;
From scorning it, I cannot then forbeare.
For, when to grosse Vnworthinesse, Men adde
Those Dues, which to the Truest-worth pertaine;

Tis like an Ape, in Humane-Vestments clad,
Which, when most fine, deserveth most disdaine:
  And, more absurd, those Men appeare to me,
  Then this Fantasticke-Monkey seemes to thee.

 

It begins with a W woodcut:

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Now Emblem 33 in Book 3, this needs a little studying:

https://digital.libraries.psu.edu/digital/collection/emblem/id/1086

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IF you, this Emblem, well have look'd upon,
Although you cannot helpe it, yet, bemone

The Worlds blacke Impudence; and, if you can,
Continue (or become) an honest man.
The poore, and petty Pilferers, you see
On Wheeles, on Gibbets, and the Gallow-tree
Trust up; when they, that farre more guilty are,
Pearle, Silke, and costly Cloth of Tissue, weare.
   Good God! how many hath each Land of those,
Who, neither limbe, nor life, nor credit lose
(But, rather live befriended, and applauded)
Yet, have of all their livelihoods defrauded
The helplesse Widowes, in their great distresse?
And, of their Portions, robd the Fatherlesse?
Yet, censur'd others Errours, as if none
Had cause to say, that they amisse have done?
How many, have assisted to condemne
Poore soules, for what was never stolne by them?
And, persecuted others, for that Sin,
Which they themselves, had more transgressed in?
  How many worthlesse men, are great become,
By that, which they have stolne, or cheated from
Their Lords? or (by some practices unjust)
From those, by whom they had beene put in trust?
How many Lawyers, wealthy men are growne,
By taking Fees, for Causes overthrowne
By their defaults? How many, without feare,
Doe rob the King, and God, yet blamelesse are?

  God knowes how many! would I did so, too,
  So I had pow'r to make them better doe.

 

It is Emblem 33 and it definitely appears to be Bacon holding two bags of coins. Is he a Thief? Is the emblem referring to him as a thief with a Gold chain?

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On the surface it does look that way, it sure looks like Bacon with the medal hanging and flowers on his shoes. But the hat? I've never seen Bacon with an ostrich feather in his hat.

There is a resemblance between the Ape and the Thief emblem. I suspect even though the emblem is numbered 33 and we see an image like Bacon, it may suggest a theif pretending to be Bacon, just as the Ape is in Emblem 14.

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Ben Jonson:

Poor Poet-Ape, that would be thought our chief,
   Whose works are e'en the frippery of wit,
From brokage is become so bold a thief,
   As we, the robb'd, leave rage, and pity it.

Emblem 14:

For, in their borrow'd-Shapes, I know those Men,
And (through their Maskes) such insight of them have;

and:

For, when to grosse Vnworthinesse, Men adde
Those Dues, which to the Truest-worth pertaine;

Emblem 33:

  How many worthlesse men, are great become,
By that, which they have stolne, or cheated from
Their Lords?

and even though there is a mention of Lawyers, these lines tell all:

                               How many, without feare,
Doe rob the King, and God, yet blamelesse are?

 

We know Bacon was not a thief, he was robbed. Both of these emblems offer an image of Bacon, but I don't believe either one IS Bacon. Both are Willy acting like Bacon stealing his due.

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Hi Rob ! Thank you very much for this in-depth analysis ! Great work ! As I was working on Wither's Emblems, I was wondering why Bacon was depicting as a thief on the Emblems 33 (Book 3) and 21 (Book 2) ... 

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... YOU FOUND THE ANSWER !!! 🙂 

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Thanks for that Rob. Sadly the precise bit I want to look at is not a whole lot clearer than above (although the rest was, thanks). 
 

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So this is one of those strange synchronicities, where when you see something odd you suddenly start seeing it everywhere - so it could be nothing - but last night I happened across a video by Alexander Waugh who, as you will all know, firmly believes De Vere was Shakespeare. Anyway he showed this shape and explained that experts believe it is a 3 that was deliberately ambiguously  shaped so it could also be read as a 5.  

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On the side of the chair at the end of your arrow, I immediately noticed the same shape. Compare the two and you’ll see the similarity to the 3 or 5 on the building. 


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If you want to hear about it and see it in AW’s video (watch from 28 mins ). It appears above and below the doorway.  The section of the video about the whole building is fascinating .

 

As an aside, but maybe not directly related, this morning I noticed (you will all know this but I didn’t) Bacon’s signature is a 3 with a line next to it like the all-important 13 (!) but the 3 shape sometimes had a distinctive flourish in his signatures where the 3 part of the B looks slightly similar to above.  Really though I’m just pointing out the coincidence in the emblem and on the building.
 

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I don’t know what this all means as it’s a book on emblems and this was obviously a common emblem at the time.

Kate

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On 3/11/2022 at 7:52 PM, Light-of-Truth said:

We know Bacon was not a thief, he was robbed. Both of these emblems offer an image of Bacon, but I don't believe either one IS Bacon. Both are Willy acting like Bacon stealing his due.

Rob, I just made an incredible discovery !!! 😮 This is not Willy acting like Bacon, stealing his due, it is someone else ! I will share  the truth in the next few days.

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15 hours ago, Allisnum2er said:

Rob, I just made an incredible discovery !!! 😮 This is not Willy acting like Bacon, stealing his due, it is someone else ! I will share  the truth in the next few days.

Hi Rob,

First of all , my apologies for my last post that I just looked at again.

I wrote it yesterday right after my discovery, in the excitement of the moment, making a very presomptuous statement ... "I will share the truth" 😅 

In fact , I just have another avenue for research.

The fact is that during the week I watched a video about the Pyramid of Kheops and its relation with the constant Pi = 3.14 and Phi =1.618.

I thought that the year 1618 would have been an interesting year to hide secrets in the books published during this year, and I began my research.

But yesterday evening, I thought about coins and medals of that year and I made an attempt with 1618 + medal.

AND HERE IS WHAT I FOUND !

https://www.ebay.fr/itm/MEDAILLE-MEDAL-SIR-WALTER-RALEGH-1552-1618-TOBACCO-W-D-C-1924-CHAS-DICKINS-L-T-D-/272693627519

(Note that, finally ,this is not a medal from 1618, 1618 being here a reference to the year of death of Sir Walter Raleigh.)

When I saw the medal for the first time , I believed that it was Francis Bacon . Then I saw the name "SIR WALTER RALEGH" and on the reverse of the medal

" TOBACCO" ( or " TO BACCO" ? 😀) Another "sign" in the "Sands of Time" !

And finally, I discovered his hat with a feather and ... a silver cross on it !

He really looks  like the "Bacon"-like characters of Wither's emblems.

Now, if it is Sir Walter Raleigh on the emblems , and that he is the ape and the thief, what does it mean ?

Could it be related to "The History of the World" a book published  by Raleigh in 1614 and written during his 13 years of imprisonment in the Tower of London ?

https://sirbacon.org/raleigh.html

https://sirbacon.org/raleighall.html

What do you think ?

 

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Sorry, I may be off on this one ...

AND What if the "Ape and Thief" was ... King JAMES I ?

I just noticed that he wore a hat with a feather and a jewel on it in almost all his portrait ! 

https://www.nationaltrustcollections.org.uk/object/129795

https://philipmould.com/exhibitions/24-love-s-labour-s-found-elizabethan-jacobean-portraiture/works/artworks4214/?open_enquiry_form=true

Another avenue ...

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What do you think ?

 

I think you are correct on Ralegh.

In the emblems the hats, feathers, and beards do not match Bacon. The appearance matches, but it is not Bacon. They do match Ralegh, often referred to as a pirate (thief). Excellent detective work, Allisnum2ber!

 

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I believe I have an answer for you in reference to Ralegh (his spelling).

I'll be explaining all of this in my next book, The Ghosts of Bacon. The "Fra. Rosi Crosse" at its inception were only three people - Francis and Anthony Bacon, and Walt Ralegh. Ralegh and Bacon were actually quite close. I wish I could say more at this time, because the explanation will make perfect sense of much of this. Numbers to look for associated with Walter Ralegh are 123 (also James in Kaye Cipher), 51 and 34 (Short Cipher signatures for him). 

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5 hours ago, Light-of-Truth said:

 

I think you are correct on Ralegh.

In the emblems the hats, feathers, and beards do not match Bacon. The appearance matches, but it is not Bacon. They do match Ralegh, often referred to as a pirate (thief). Excellent detective work, Allisnum2ber!

 

I just found this image :

https://fineartamerica.com/featured/sir-walter-raleigh-smoking-his-pipe-mary-evans-picture-library.html

In almost all the representation of Raleigh smoking his pipe , we can see him being doused by a "white " servant.

But in this one, he is doused by a "black" servant and we can see ... two APES !!!

The "Black" and "White" reminds me another post in another topic. 🙂 

Could it be the AA in disguise ?

 

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The truth is that I did not know  Sir Walter Ralegh and his story before my finding two days ago.

My reading and the post of Jake_Roberts gave me another meaning to an emblem I was already aware of.

I had noticed the 1-2-3 pipes, a reference , for me, to Francis Bacon.

And I thought, until now, that the smoke was just a reference to "smokes and mirrors".

But I was wrong.

 

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