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  1. https://sirbacon.org/overheard.htm

    This exchange appeared in Francis Carr's Fortnighly News Sheet between Professor Jonathan Bate, a British scholar of Shakespeare and Romanticism and Barry Ide, Cervantes Professor of Spanish at Stratford University :


    Jonathan Bate : What do you think of Francis Carr's book, Who Wrote Don Quixote?
    Barry Ide : I'd rather not say anything at the moment.
    Bate : I've been asked by the Daily Telegraph to review it. Can you tell me if you think it's ridiculous?
    Ide : I'd rather not comment, as you can understand.
    Bate : If I don't write this review, they will think that Carr is right. Have they got in touch with you?
    Ide : Yes, I told them I couldn't say anything now. But you don't want Bacon to get any publicity, do you?
    Bate : No. But I don't think we can do nothing.
    Ide : Why not?
    Bate : Too many questions are being asked. That damned Internet! Is Carr right? Tell me, are you 100% certain that Cervantes wrote Don Quixote?
    Ide : No. Can you wait before putting pen to paper?
    Bate : Sooner or later we will have to come clean.
    Ide : I'll write to you next week about this.
    A week later .....

    Bate : I am still waiting for your letter about Francis Carr's Who Wrote Don Quixote?
    Ide : I'm sorry I have not got around to writing it.
    Bate : The Telegraph rang me yesterday. They want to put my review in a special feature next month.
    Ide : About what?
    Bate : The Novel. They want to start with Don Quixote.
    Ide : Oh dear!
    Bate : They are suprised I have not said anything about Carr's book. I have asked them to postpone this feature. The press have been told not to review this book, and there has been very little advertising. But more and more of my students are asking me what I think of it.
    Ide : What is your reply?
    Bate : I would like to be able to tell them what you think. We have known about Cervantes, of course, for a long time. But we never encourage students to study Cervantes himself. When can you write to me?
    Ide : Give me another week......

    Jonathan Bate was educated at Sevenoaks School and the University of Cambridge. He teaches at Warwick University.His publications include Shakespeare and Ovid (1993), the Arden edition of Titus Andronicus (1995), The Genius of Shakespeare (1997), and he is currently editing a new edition of Shakespeare's Complete Works for the Royal Shakespeare Company.

    Winning and Losing

    Competition creates losers. The losers naturally resent the winner, who deprives them of victory. In the race to win the real Shakespeare prize, all the contenders are----for the time being enjoying the challenge. The one event that they fear is defeat, when the winning post is reached. So it is natural that they refrain from giving their rivals any publicity. They would not review a book which supports someone who is not their favourite---unless, of course, they can rubbish it.
    The Stratfordians, Oxfordians and Marlovians have all been struck dumb by Francis Carr's
    Who Wrote Don Quixote. It clearly demonstrates Bacon's authorship of the Spanish novel and the Shakespeare plays. Attacks on Bacon's authorship claim are more difficult, so the professors prefer to keep their mouths shut. They have agreed with their Spanish counterparts perhaps that they will not uncover Bacon's authorship of Don Quixote, as that will also uncover his creation of the Shakespeare plays. With the publication of Carr's book the case for Bacon becomes even more difficult to refute. It is in fact impossible.

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  2. 9 hours ago, Light-of-Truth said:

    Interesting! But it is funny that the twisting double helix is a vision that is seen by some. 🙂


    There's a Twist to the DNA Double-Helix  origins. Seems that there is another "authorship " controversy surrounding the discovery. Check out who Rosalind Franklin is. https://www.forbes.com/sites/johncumbers/2019/11/21/the-woman-who-first-showed-us-the-double-helix-a-personal-look-at-rosalind-franklin/?sh=43f9b6f4856c

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  3. On 2/21/2024 at 5:57 PM, CAB said:

    The Bacon-Tobey acrostic, Part 5  (Sorry but I couldn't get this in fewer posts).

    However, there are several points of argument that supports the supposition that it can convey the meaning of ‘Bandito’. 1) the sounding is nearly the same; 2) Shakespeare used a very similar spelling of the word as “Bandetto” in The Second Part of Henry VI on page 138 (25th line) of the First Folio and this is known to come from Italian ‘bandito’ which derived from earlier roots of bannire or old French ‘banir’ and we know Bacon was familiar with old French (and Italian) since some Law works were in that language.  http://www.etymonline.com/index.php?search=banish  3) the similar sounds seem perfectly acceptable to the Friedmans who wrote: “since the Folio does not (and could not without arousing suspicion) contain the name of the author’s distinguished contemporaries, it would be reasonable to expect some such phonetic approximation. We do not therefore question certain strikingly odd spellings.” [p. 44]; 4) the scene’s context of ‘Banito’ is about Prospero discussing his own ‘banishment’ from Milan;  5) the idea of being banished fits perfectly BOTH Francis Bacon and his alter ego friend Tobie Matthew.  Bacon, after his impeachment for taking bribes in office was convicted and banished from London, the law courts, and Parliament.


    Tobie Matthew was banished twice during the reign of King James I for declining to take the Oath of Allegiance. 
    The first time in 1607-8. About these events Matthew used the term ‘banished’, but didn’t want to think of it as such: 
    “Some nine years since, I was not banished, but absented only, with this clause, that I was not to returne, 
    till his (Majestie’s) pleasure were first knowne.” The second time was a little after he returned to England in 1617 
    and is again referred to with the word ‘banished’. In December of 1618 the Rev. Thomas Larkin, in a letter to 
    Sir Thomas Pickering, says "Toby Matthew was yesterday, now a second time, banished the land,..”

    And lastly, 6) there was a curious volume published anonymously in 1620 that connects the epithet ‘bandito’ to Tobie Matthew. In this translation it was titled A Relation of the Death of the Most Illustrious Lord Signor Troilo Savelli, a Baron of Rome / [translated from Italian] by Sir T.M. Knight.  This was ascribed to Sir Tobie Matthew by Henry Peacham in Truth of our Time (p. 102). A 1663 edition was titled The Penitent Bandito, or the Historie of the conversion and Death of the most illustrious Lord Signior Troilo Saavelli, a Baron of Rome. This edition is said to have Tobie Matthew’s name in Anthony a Wood’s handwriting. Wood was an antiquarian and ‘professed Rosicrucian’—a topic to be addressed later. But why the book was renamed ‘The Penitent Bandito’ isn’t known. Bacon would likely have known and read any book by his closest friend, and perhaps there is something in the book related to banishment which later came to mind in the preparation of The Tempest in the First Folio.

    In any case, all of these apparent acrostics, associated by their clear parallel locations in successive columns, and with names and phrases perfectly suited to each other, must be extremely unlikely (in my opinion) to be a coincidence. Mather Walker calculated the probability at 181,606,990,000,000,000,000,000,000 to 1, using the Friedman’s table of first-line letter occurrences in the Folio. The Friedman’s own test of authorship through acrostic or cipher put the odds necessary for validation at “1 chance in a thousand million” [p. 21] or 1,000,000,000 to 1.  If the probability of the Bacon-Tobey acrostic can be professionally calculated to be at or beyond this number then that by itself, according to the Friedmans, would prove Bacon’s authorship. But if the acrostic does not actually reach that probability, or if the ‘impure’ acrostic pattern is still a little questionable, then other possible ‘hidden bard’ signatures may be enough to settle any doubt.


    And here is Mather Walker’s full article:


    End of this 5 part series.

    Great work CAB! Greatly appreciate it.

    Mather's favorite play was  The Tempest. He wrote about having a peak experience revelation once while viewing the play. His discovery of the Tobey-Bacon Fun Pun Acrostic deserves more attention while William Friedman  deserves  more attention for MISSING IT!

    Two A Like : TObey or not TObey can be answered as TWO BE as One.

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    Joy Hancox is a History researcher that touches on esoteric topics and Francis Bacon and John Dee & Freemasonry, Elizabethan Playhouses. and more. She has  been interviewed  by Jamie Theakston  Series 1 , Episode 6, on the Yesterday Channel. https://www.justwatch.com/us/tv-show/forbidden-history/season-1

    Years ago Mather Walker wrote a great Review of one of Joy's books  "Kingdom For A Stage : Magicians & Aristocrats in the Elizabethan Theatre" See : https://sirbacon.org/mkingdomstagereview.htm


    Possible burial at St.Michaels, Tintern, examined in recent book "The Hidden Chapter."

    See : http://joyhancox.co.uk/references/

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  5. Mather Walker had a deep passion about all things Francis Bacon and gave me permission to host his many essays and digital books. He was on a mission with his knowledge & inimitable writing style along with a great sense of humor.

    My condolences to his son Wayne and to all that cherished Mather. He will be truly missed.
    Lawrence Gerald

    Special Thanks to Travis Dodge for letting Rob and I know about Mather's passing

    If anyone would like to share about Mather in the Forum please do and or write a message of sympathy can go here




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  6. You are right Christie, Eisley really gets FB.

    One of my first excursions into Bacon was through Loren Eisley's insightful and easy to read book, FB and the Modern Dilemma : The Man Who Saw Through Time


    "Bacon himself was seeking the road by which the human mind might be opened to the full
    image of the world, not reduced to the little compass of a state machine."


    "The world without Shakespeare's insights is a lesser world, our griefs shut more in-
    articulately in upon themselves. We grow mute at the thought just as an element seems to disappear
    from sunlight without Van Gogh. Yet these creations we might call particle episodes in the human universe acts without precedent, a kind of disobedience of normality, unprophesiable by science, unduplicable
    by other individuals on demand."


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  7. On 2/16/2024 at 1:49 PM, Christie Waldman said:

    I posted a comment at the youtube page, and I saw it up, but the next time I looked, it was not there, so had apparently been taken down. What I said was that even the most fair-minded and judicious people can have blind spots, and that the real significance of N. B. Cockburn's 740-page book, The Bacon Shakespeare Question: The Baconian Question Made Sane, was that he tried to cover the whole scope of the case for Bacon's authorship of Shakespeare--what he considered the chief points, as the case existed in 1998, in one book. I might add that, being a barrister, he probably gravitated more towards arguments that could be proven with concrete facts, as in a court of law, rather than towards opinion-based evidence. Even if he didn't say so explicitly, that could be one reason he put the Manes Verulumiani in an appendix.

    Christie, if you do a Newest First on the Sort by logo your comment is still there.

    Even "fair, open-minded and judicious scholars" may have blind spots. Reasonable minds can differ on matters of opinion. What British barrister N. B. Cockburn's book does in his 740-page book is try to set out fully the strongest points in the case for Bacon, as he saw them, 26 years ago. Cockburn considered only 4 of the 32 elegies in his appendix. I am surprised you were able to find a copy of Cockburn's book; it is so rare.  @alexanderwaugh7036 
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  8. 6 hours ago, Eric Roberts said:


    To Lawrence


    It would be remiss of us to let your riposte, your broadside, your lethal blow to that bastion of Oxfordian baloney, Alexander Waugh, to pass without comment.

    You blew him out of the water. Remind me to never go bowling with you. Your strike ratio is out of my league. Seriously on behalf of all of us, very well done!

    As of yesterday, no reply from Waughsie was forthcoming. 


    P.S. I had to look up the meaning of the phrase "like turkeys voting for Christmas" as I'd not heard it before. Once I got your gist, I considered photoshopping waugh's head onto a turkey's body, but then I realised it would be an insult to turkeys everywhere.






    Thank You Eric but credit should all be given to AP who I asked for support and he delivered the turkeys for christmas! Does this mean we can still go bowling sir?

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  9. One of Marvin's list of  likes : Dr. Strangelove; or, How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Love the Bomb


    Hi Marvin,
    One of our generous contributors to sirbacon.org has been the writer,  Harvey Wheeler,  a life long admirer of the political philosophy and Constitutional law  writings of Francis Bacon. Harvey  also co wrote a very successful  novel, "Fail Safe" which was adapted to make the screenplay for Dr. Strangeglove.


    Fail-Safe (1962) Eugene Burdick & Harvey Wheeler, McGraw Hill; Re-published, 1999, by Ecco Press, now part of Harper-Collins.


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  10. On 2/11/2024 at 5:20 AM, A Phoenix said:

    Hi Eric,

    We feel honoured and privileged to have the opportunity to finally bring the critically important Memoriae verses into the full light of day together with their four translations on B'Hive/sirbacon.org to provide Baconians and other interested scholars with ready and easy access to them in perpetuity. 

    It is also provides a further opportunity for our B'Hive community with its unusual minds and learning to further illuminate and explain aspects of the verses which have remained hidden and obscure for the last four hundred years as part of our collective efforts to bring forth the Secret Truth about Lord Bacon to a much wider audience.  

    Thank you.   

    Thank You A. Phoenix for bringing  Focus to these 4  Memoriae Translations. Invaluable!

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