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  1. Ryan Murtha : Is anyone interested in dissecting the Oxford argument? Maybe just for the sake of being objective and thorough we should. Of course Oxford was a ward of Bacon's uncle Lord Burghley, so any biographical correspondences can be adduced in Bacon's favor as well, he would have been well aware of De Vere's biography. If we are looking at a group of writers, is Oxford one of them? If I remember Larry told me he and Bacon didn't get along, but I haven't read anything about that. Many people are persuaded by these arguments, I haven't gotten into them deeply but I tend to think the whole thing has been manufactured as a smokescreen, as someone put it once to me. It could be seen in a wider context of pretty severe hostility towards Bacon in academia, the things they have said are just incredible. My intuitive guess is that because of Bacon's contribution to science, if he were acknowledged as the principal genius behind Shakespeare, the academic community would have to deal with a colossus and his influence would be hegemonic, everyone would have to defer to him and philosophy departments would probably be eviscerated, nobody would want to read people like Wittgenstein and Derrida etc. Nietzsche knew, but just as he became a Baconian he went nuts, go figure. I used a quote from him as an epigraph in my book, and I had the hardest time finding it in a search, I had to go to the actual book and find it. Google is hiding the fact that Nietzsche was a Baconian. 


    These two links cast light on how Ben Jonson and Bacon thought very little of Edward de Vere.


    This article explores in Ben Jonson's "Staple of News" what he thought of DeVere. (search the page for DeVere past the mid point of article)



    Bacon being a non blood related cousin to DeVere both being temporary wards to the Cecil  Family was able to  observe DeVere up close and use it as grist for the mill. So it's no surprise that Bacon would write about him in an unfavorable light in "All's Well That End's Well. "

    Also Bacon would have known about the tragic incident that took place in William Cecil's household (Lord Burleigh) where DeVere stabbed to death a young unarmed cook.
    Cecil got DeVere off the legal hook for that.  Oxfordians today overlook DeVere's  despicable character because they have to. Hard to defend  a spoiled rich kid  misogynist  who did not take all of knowledge to be his province for the betterment and relief of man's estate.


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  2. 11 hours ago, Light-of-Truth said:

    We all hear that "possession is 9 tenths of the law." I don't know if that is true, but it appears the Strats "own" Shakespeare right now because they took ownership in the mid 1600's based on the name appearing on the First Folio.

    There is no evidence anywhere that Willy Shakspur ever owned a copy of a play, nor wrote one. But the name "William Shakespeare" does appear on them.

    There is no evidence Willy ever owned a book, or wrote anything but a few scribbles there and there.

    Baconians have a wealth of circumstantial evidence, and many people have been convicted of crimes by circumstantial evidence. Many of those were innocent.

    To "prove" in a Court of Law that Willy Shakspur did not write the works of William Shakespeare would be a nearly impossible burden. It would be a moot point to attempt.

    Same goes for "proving" Bacon wrote the works. Unless, of course, we found the body of handwritten Shakespeare manuscripts with notes in Bacon's handwriting along with his own papers. In a Court of Law, we need the Body.

    So we are attempting to sway public opinion. And even then if you ask 100 people who wrote Shakespeare, over 90 will probably say "Shakespeare" did, and not care one little bit if he didn't. Now the Oxies have taken over the lead with the few who do question the authorship because they have a money engine behind them luring in celebrities and others who want to be in that exclusive club. We who are Baconians see the facts, but are a loosely connected not-so-wealthy group of individuals that accept the evidence as discovered and revealed.

    I believe we are making progress, but we need to be realistic in that proving anything is burden likely to fail, but we can possibly persuade many of those who care about Truth that Bacon was probably the author, or at least the leader of authors, who created the works of Shakespeare.


    Sometimes possession is 9 tenths of the flaw.


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  3. That's A. L. Rowse, a Stratfordian  embarrassment.

    When the prima facie Oxfraudians call themselves "Legally trained Oxfraudians" along with their "imposing, intimidating photograph of the gavel," as Christina states,  it makes me laugh and think of Putin's  pernicious invaders in Ukraine that he spins as  a "Peacekeepers Operation."


    One thing I can say about Francis Bacon  is he did a pretty good job of revealing and concealing his Authorship so that every  generation  would have a chance to engage and test out  his notions on Mediocra Firma and The Four Idols while undergoing the  inquiry and treasure hunt.

    What does anyone think of the use of Stylometrics by some researchers  as a way of determinating Authorship?

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    On 2/13/2022 at 12:29 PM, Light-of-Truth said:

    I skimmed the paper quickly. I didn't see Dodd mentioned. It is in the paper he makes the statement about Dodd?

    5.4 After the Fall – The Baconian  Enlightenment  Postponed 
    For the more adventurous  and  patient  reader  there  is  a  mine  of  supplementary information  i n  the writings  of  Alfred Dodd, but be warned that Dodd was a fanatical believer in the claim that Bacon wrote the Shakespeare plays. If one can sift out the credulity and hero worship from Dodd's writings, there is a useful quantity of historical information that can be separated from Dodd's thesis.)
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