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Hi A Phoenix, Facing your last great slides about Ben Jonson and Thomas Nashe, I wondered if Ben Jonson had written something about Thomas Nashe. Indeed ! Ben Jonson's Elegy on Thomas Nashe https://universitypublishingonline.org/cambridge/benjonson/k/works/nashe/facing/# https://www.euppublishing.com/doi/abs/10.3366/bjj.1996.3.1.2?journalCode=bjj The beginning of the Elegy is interesting 😊 Mortals, that yet respire with plenteous breath, View here a trophy of that tyrant Death, And let the object strike your melting eyes Blind as the night, when you but read Here lies Conquered by destiny and turned to earth The man whose want hath caused a general dearth Of wit throughout this land; none left behind To equal him in his ingenious kind.’ I urge not this as being his parasite; Who loved him least will do him greater right. No well-deserving muse but will impart Her flowers to crown his industry and art.
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The Droeshout Portrait : a new discovery ?
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Hi Kate, Your reference to the symbolism of the furnace in both Mystic Chistianity and Rosicrucianism reminded two Emblems from a Rosicrucian Book published for the first time in 1617 by Daniel Cramer. Here are these two Emblems in the 1624 Edition (Emblemata Sacra) https://archive.org/details/emblematasacraho00cram/page/n147/mode/2up?ref=ol&view=theater EMBLEM 33 SUFFER - LEARN Emblem 24 33 + 24 = 57 I also love Emblem 26 😉 "Under the Shadow of thy Wing" But since many years my preference really goes to two Emblems from the 2nd Part (1624 Edition) -
The Droeshout Portrait : a new discovery ?
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The Droeshout Portrait : a new discovery ?
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The name Panurgus is a reference to Panurge in Pantagruel by Francois Rabelais. Chapter 33 of Pantagruel translated by Thomas Urquhart and Peter Antony Motteux - How Pantagruel became sick, and the manner how he was recovered - https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Pantagruel/Chapter_XXXIII And in Chapter 30 https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Pantagruel/Chapter_XXX "Pantagruel withdrew himself to the place of the flagons, and called for Panurge and the rest" We have a list of famous individuals. The 26th one is ... Scipio Africanus !!! For me, this says it all ! 😊 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_Urquhart https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Pantagruel -
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Here is a last suggestion ... https://quod.lib.umich.edu/e/eebo/A02367.0001.001/1:5.13?rgn=div2;view=fulltext In the Book, there is a page dedicated to ... Wisdome ! A man may be deuoute enough: too much, when their zeale is like the horne in the Vnicorns head: it doth more hurt then good. You would not haue wished Baal Priests doe more for their Maister: loe, the gashes and mouthes of their selfe-giuen wounds, speake their forwardnesse: they wanted a Lampe of direction, to Guide it to Gods Altar. Aristotl• e•lls Discretion,*virtutum normam et form•m: the eye of the soule, the soule of vertue. I would to God, some amongst vs had one Dramme of this grace, ming∣led with their whole handfuls of zeale. It would a little Coole the preter naturall heate of the slng-brand fraternitie; as one wittily calleth them. Hollerius writes of an Italian, that by often smelling to the herbe Basil, had Scorpions bred in his braine. Proud Faction is the weed they so much smell on, and make poesies of, that the serpents bred in their braines, doe stinge and wound the bosome of the Church. These Binde, and with Cordes, but not to the Altar, Deuotion is not their scope, but distraction. O may the spirit of meeknesse Binde their Sacrifice to the Altar: direct their zeale with Discretion, to the glory of God. And let vs euery one say resolutely with Daui•: I will wa•h my hands in innocencie,*O Lord; and so will I compasse thine Altar. Wise∣dome is a faire Daughter in this Progenie. Bind the Sa∣crifice with Cords to the Altar. F.BAC. I have not found a facsimile. Thus, I do not know if we have the same arrangement and the same Capital letters in the Book. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Basil Basil, the "Royal" herb. And could Hollerius be our Doctor Panurgus, or "Le Medicin Guarissant" ? https://dental.nyu.edu/aboutus/rare-book-collection/16-c/jacques-houllier.html https://data.bnf.fr/13484964/jacques_houllier/ -
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AWESOME !!! https://quod.lib.umich.edu/e/eebo/A02367.0001.001/1:11?rgn=div1;view=fulltext This book was written by ADAMS THOMAS who was called the SHAKESPEARE OF THE PURITANS !!! I agree, it was by the english poet Robert Southey (1774 - 1883) but it remains a good omen ! 😄 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_Adams_(priest) Moreover "he was on intimate terms with William Herbert, 3rd Earl of Pembroke ". https://sirbacon.org/mcompeer3of3.htm And here is a link to the work of Mather Walker, explaining that Thomas Adams would be one of the masks of ... Francis Bacon ! -
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The Three Divine Sisters : Faith, Hope and Charity 😊 https://quod.lib.umich.edu/e/eebo/A02367.0001.001/1:11?rgn=div1;view=fulltext -
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And talking about Religion Truth Plaine dealing and Honesty ... Here is a book published in 1616 that tweaks now my interest ! 😊 "The sacrifice of thankefulnesse" https://quod.lib.umich.edu/e/eebo/A02367.0001.001/1:6?rgn=div1;view=fulltext -
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I think that I've just found another possible hidden meaning regarding one of the Ingredients ! 😊 In Doctor Panurgus, Francis Bacon's Councell is : "A dosis Sir where the Ingredients be Religion Truth plaine dealing Honestie." In "Le Medicin Guarissant" Truth and Plaine dealing are not there. But "Honestie" is present ... almost in the middle (Mediocra). https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/c/ca/A_surgery_where_all_fantasy_and_follies_are_purged_and_good_Wellcome_V0011656.jpg Then I wondered if I could find Continency and Consideration. I found "Consideration" that as if by chance is the 33rd Ingredient but not "Continency". Instead of "Continency" we have "Contentment", that is not the same thing. And guess what I found as I was looking for the meaning of Continency/Continence in the 16th century ? 😊 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Continence_of_Scipio https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Continence_of_Scipio#/media/File:Nicolò_dell'Abate_-_The_Continence_of_Scipio_-_WGA00015.jpg SCIPIO AFRICANUS ... our TERENCE ! 🙂 I think that we have to take it into "Consideration" ! 😊 -
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The fact is that the Tric Trac and the Deck of cards that we see in the Droeshout's engraving appear in the Emblem 44 of Emblemata Saecularia, but not in "Le Medicin Guarissant". This is a good proof the persons at the origin of the Droehout's engraving were perfectly familiar with Emblemata Saecularia and "Le medecin Guarissant". -
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Hi Kate , No, despite the fact that there are more "ingredients" (35) in "Le Medicin Guarissant" than in the Droeshout's engraving (26) Faith, Hope and Charity are just not there ! 🙂 Piety is there, this is the 3rd bottle ! -
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The great article shared by Kate talks about Emblemata Seacularia (1596) as the origin of "Le Médecin Guarissant". https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Emblemata_Saecularia_(1596)# Emblemata Saecularia - Planche 44 ARTE MEA CEREBRUM NISI SIT SAPIENTIATOTUM "By my art everyone's brain becomes wisdom" I wonder if one element of Droeshout's Engraving could be, under the supervision of Francis Bacon, a reference to Emblemata Saecularia. https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/9/9d/"Doctor_Panurgus"_curing_the_folly_of_his_patients_by_purgat_Wellcome_L0023713.jpg?uselang=fr Note the vestment that is different than the one in "Le Médecin Guarissant"... https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:A_surgery_where_all_fantasy_and_follies_are_purged_and_good_Wellcome_V0011656.jpg Emblemata Saecularia - Planche 33 Emblemata Saecularia - Planche 29 Emblemata Saecularia - Planche 5 If I am right, the same kind of vestment appears in only 3 emblems of Emblemata Saecularia : 33 , 29 , 5 And still playing with numbers ... 33 = BACON 33 + 29 = 62 # F.B. 33 + 29 + 5 = 67 = FRANCIS Once again, these are just some ideas that I share with you on the fly. I know that it was kind of a clothing in fashion at that time, but in my view, the link with the numbers is interesting. -
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Hi Rob, I've had the same question. And I've had the same thought. 😊 Regarding, Panurgus, this is a reference to Panurge a character of Gargantua and Pantagruel by Francois Rabelais, and it can be linked to the french expression "Mouton de Panurge". https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Panurge For me, the story of Panurge and the sheeps of Dindenault echoes Matthew 8:30-33 : 30. And there was a good way off from them an herd of many swine feeding. 31. So the devils besought him, saying, If thou cast us out, suffer us to go away into the herd of swine. 32.And he said unto them, Go. And when they were come out, they went into the herd of swine: and, behold, the whole herd of swine ran violently down a steep place into the sea, and perished in the waters. 33.And they that kept them fled, and went their ways into the city, and told every thing, and what was befallen to the possessed of the devils. And the fact is that Shakespeare makes reference to Matthew 8:30-33 in The Merchant of Venice ... https://internetshakespeare.uvic.ca/Library/facsimile/book/Bran_F1/184/index.html%3fzoom=1200.html And as a reminder, here is my solution (that I shared with you last year) to the double meaning of the sentence : "Yes to smell Porke, to eate of the habitation ..." "Yes to smell Porke, to eat BACON " I showed that Bacon used many times the shape of a HOUSE (The Habitaton) a reference, I think, both to the House of Solomon and to the Constellation Cepheus ( CEPHEUS = 74 = TUDOR) -
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Here is another interesting thing regarding Doctor Panurgus 😊. The only two (B) Ingredients beginning with "Con" are "Consideration"(16) and "Continency"(17). 16 + 17 = 33 = BACON https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/9/9d/"Doctor_Panurgus"_curing_the_folly_of_his_patients_by_purgat_Wellcome_L0023713.jpg?uselang=fr Good Sir Francis Bacon -
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Hi Rob, Well spotted !!! ❤️ I really don't know if it is just your "strange, and idle imagination" (Page 57).😊 As you know, "good things come in threes". And here are also more ideas by using "mediocria" 😉 WILL, OLD Tudor SON (h)OLD pen ? ON CHEV'RILL = 111 = BACON (Kay cipher) , THE LAWYER ON OLD COLT = 103 = SHAKE-SPEARE (Simple cipher) -
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Thank you Rob (Light-of-Truth)! ❤️ Now, I look forward to discovering your take on it !😊 By the way, I forget to mention one detail ... Doctor Panurgus (c. 1620 ?) https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/9/9d/"Doctor_Panurgus"_curing_the_folly_of_his_patients_by_purgat_Wellcome_L0023713.jpg?uselang=fr One more time, we found the same peculiar "w" than the one in use for the text written on the parchment of Shakespeare's memorial (1740). https://sirbacon.org/gallery/west.htm -
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Good Evening A Phoenix, Thank you very much, even if for me YOU are the TRUE wonder of the Baconian world. 🙏❤️ -
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https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:"Doctor_Panurgus"_curing_the_folly_of_his_patients_by_purgat_Wellcome_L0023713.jpg?uselang=fr Here is F.Bacon's Councell : A Dosis Sir where the ingredients be Religion Truth plaine dealing Honestie. Note that we have "plaine dealing" instead of "Plaine dealing" with a capital letter P. Here plain dealing seems to be an adjective for Honestie. "plaine dealing Honestie" By the way, nowadays, "Plain dealing" is synonym of Honest. Moreover, " Religion" is not one of the ingredients avalaible. This is , in my view, a part of the code, a hidden reference to the three theological vertues "Faith, Hope and Charity" and to "Piety". And here is a last idea ... Doctor Panurgus holds the "Wisdome" Bottle that ,being a bottle, belongs to the series of Bottles on the top of the Cabinet. Thus "Understanding" is, in reality, the 26th ingredient. What is the real number behind the "Wisdome" Bottle ? I think that "Wisdome" is the 7th Bottle, between Reason and Councell. -
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I would like to share with you some of my thoughts on Doctor Panurgus. https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:"Doctor_Panurgus"_curing_the_folly_of_his_patients_by_purgat_Wellcome_L0023713.jpg?uselang=fr Thanks to the great work of A Phoenix who recently brought to our attention this incredible engraving , I decided to take a closer look at it yesterday and to see if Francis Bacon had concealed more clues in it. Here are the fruits of my research. Interestingly, still playing (for fun) with numbers : 21 spikes of the Tric Trac + the 6 on the card + 30 (the sum of the visible sides of the dices) = 57 57 = FRA. BACON The two Tobacco pipes remind me an Emblem by Jacob cats in Proteus (1618) https://emblems.hum.uu.nl/c161812.html From "MORAL EMBLEMS" by John Leighton and Richard Pigot (1860) To be continued ... -
Hi Rob, Great finding ! And I totally agree with you. The Jonson "Works" collection is indeed a playground for we cipher people. And this is something that I have already shared but regarding Ben Jonson and the number 222 my preference goes to this page 😊 https://archive.org/details/workesofbenjamin00jons/page/222/mode/2up?ref=ol&view=theater
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Hi everyone, Here is, in my view, another subterfuge used by Francis Bacon at the end of The Tempest in order to conceal his Authorship. The 5 Spirits mentionned at the very end of the play and Ariell (the aerial spirit) are mentionned only one more time all together, on page 15 of the play that is the 33rd page of the First Folio.
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Hi A Phoenix ! Triple WOW ! 😮 I have not finished reading your previous amazing book yet, that you are already sharing another incredible Work of yours. I just watched your last video. This is once again a MAJOR WORK, rehabiliting with mastery the truth about the relationship between Francis Bacon and Ben Jonson. And I am in awe facing your historical perspective on Ben Jonson's Work (I was blown away by your take on Every man ... , Poetaster, and must of all , the Epigrams On Chev'ril ) ❤️❤️❤️ Many thanks for all your unvaliable work.🙏 BRAVISSIMO !