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My research for a video brought me to "The Ruins of Time" by Edmund Spenser (Francis Bacon's Mask). Cambden is mentionned by E.S. https://www.luminarium.org/renascence-editions/ruines.html Cambden the nourice of antiquitie, And lanterne vnto late succeeding age, To see the light of simple veritie, Buried in ruines, through the great outrage Of her owne people, led with warlike rage; Cambden, though Time all moniments obscure, Yet thy iust labours euer shall endure. "To see the light of simple veritie" 😊

Hi Eric, Thank you for sharing. This is very intringuing. Here is at a first glance, the first ideas regarding a possible link to Francis Bacon : - The year of publication : 1632 # AFCB or F. BAC. Francis Bacon - You have a little HOG/PIG/BOAR and a Phoenix. The Boar with the sun above , reminds me one of the versions of "Dies meliora". https://www.emblems.arts.gla.ac.uk/alciato/emblem.php?id=A15a045 - Notice the latin sentence "NON 3ST MORTAL3 QUOD OPTO" with the only two letters E of the engraving that look like two inverted 3. 33= BACON - When I see a Hog, I look for the Hang. And trying to translate what is said by the Phoenix, I have just learned the meanings of Haeres. 😊 https://www.perseus.tufts.edu/hopper/text?doc=Perseus:text:1999.04.0059:entry=haereo https://www.perseus.tufts.edu/hopper/text?doc=Perseus:text:1999.04.0059:entry=dignor Interestingly, instead of a "n" (dignor), this is a letter "m" (digmor). Could it be a clue ? I think that I have to dig more !!! 😄

Hi A Phoenix, I don't know if someone already made the link between The Droeshout Portrait and Act IV Scene 3 of The Taming of the Shrew by the past. Most likely ! In any case, here are some suggestions 😉 ...

Thank you Eric, This is very interesting ! "Chev'ril" appears only once in Shakespeare's Work, on the same page of the famous "M.O.A.I.", that is the 282th page (FRANCIS BACON Kay cipher) of the First Folio. https://internetshakespeare.uvic.ca/Library/facsimile/book/SLNSW_F1/282/?work=&zoom=1723

Hi, A Phoenix Great deciphering ! As Eric said, thank you for pointing "Chev'ril" out ! And my apologies if this is something that you have mentioned and that I have missed out, but by counting from "On Chev'ril" there are ... 33 words.

Hi A Phoenix, I lack of words and superlatives to express my feelings after having watched your last videos ! ❤️ Your 1 minute Trailer is captivating, it goes straight to the point and looks the urge of to know more about it. Regarding your video about Ben Jonson's "To The Reader" and the Droeshout Mask, I second all that has been said so far. Those are two new Masterclasses in Baconian studies, in research, synthesis and presentation. A thousand thanks for your brilliant Work and for your unstoppable, unwavering dedication to bring Francis Bacon's Work within everyone's reach ! 🙏

The word Bacon appears once in "Eastward Hoe". Here are some ideas ... Eastward Hoe was published in 1605 , the same year as "Advancement of Learning" by Francis Bacon. "Temperate" reminded me a sentence of Cicero that I saw once, a sentence related to mediocria. "Is est enim eloquens qui et humilia subtiliter et alta graviter et mediocria temperate potest." "He in fact is eloquent who can discuss commonplace matters simply, lofty subjects impressively, and topics ranging between in a tempered style " Edit : Ben Jonson about Cicero and Francis Bacon ... https://archive.org/details/workesofbenjamin00jons/page/n653/mode/2up?ref=ol&view=theater

A great deciphering for a great Epilogus !😊 Well done ! I would like to share something that I have just noticed. So , I do not have an explanation yet. Yesterday, I wondered what were the Numbers hidden behind "Eastward Hoe". Here is the answer ... And 10 min ago, facing your last slide , I wondered what was the sum of the two "roman" words "Pageant" and "Shew" among the 33 italic words. The answer ? EASTWARD HOE = PAGEANT SHEW 😊

Hi , I totally agree with you Eric. This is another great finding A Phoenix ! ❤️ I wonder if here "Qui" could be seen as the French for "Who ?" like in "Hony soit qui mal y pence". Qui ? Bacon ! ( Who? Bacon ! )

Bacon is in the air ! 😊

Great finding Rob ! I did not understand why you said that the first page of "Under-woods" was page 157. In my mind, it was page 161. When I discovered your take on numbers 157 and 287 , I took a look at this pages in the Folio and I also noticed the strange ponctuation in the Title Page of Mortimer. But for me, 157 was not linked with "Under-wood". I would have remembered ! 😊 Here is the explanation. There are (at least) two versions of Ben Jonson's 2nd Folio. https://archive.org/details/workesofbenjamin00jons/page/n635/mode/2up https://archive.org/details/vvorkesofbeniami00jons/page/84/mode/2up In the first one , the 3 plays "The Magnetick Lady" , "A tale of a Tub" and "The Sad Shepherd" are in the end. In the second one, this 3 plays are in the middle of the book. 🙂

For me, Ben Jonson's Second Folio really is a Goldmine. Here is a "Birth-day" Gift for this special day 😉. Few years ago, an Ode from "Underwood", written by Ben jonson in 1630, immediatly caught my attention. https://archive.org/details/workesofbenjamin00jons/page/230/mode/2up An Ode, or Song, by all the Muses. In celebration of her Majesties Birth-day. Why ? Because the 3 first Muses were CLIO , MELPOMENE and THALIA, the muses of HISTORIE, TRAGEDIE AND COMEDIE. And facing the words "shake" and "lance" in the Ode, I felt that all this was hiding something. https://internetshakespeare.uvic.ca/Library/facsimile/book/SLNSW_F1/3/index.html%3Fzoom=1275.html And here is what I found ... In the 3rd part, dedicating to Thalia the Muse of Comedy, the lines 16 and 17 ( 16+17 =33=BACON) tell us : Let every Lyre be strung, Harp ,Lute,Theorbo sprung. It is a Joke ! (that fits with the muse of Comedy 🙂 ) Indeed, Lyre, Harp, Lute are not the attributes of Thalia but the attributes of Terpsichore the Muse of Danse. Clio, Thalia, Erato, Euterpe, PolyHymnia, Calliope, Terpsichore, Urania, Melpomene. Louvre Museum, Public domain, via Wikimedia Commons I took it as an invitation to look closely the passage dedicated to Terpsichore. I noticed that Terpsichore was the Muse "in the midst". That could be a reference to Mediocria firma, Francis bacon's motto. And I noticed an error in the word "Daughtrr". What if this error was intended ? DAUGHTRR = 93 (simple cipher) # I.C. , I see, Eye See. As if by chance "Daughtrr" was the 119 words and 119 is the simple cipher of : MEDIOCRIA FIRMA This is the 26th line : 26 # B.F. and F.BACO = 26 simple cipher "The Daughtrr of the great HARRY" = 260 (simple cipher) And don't ask me why, but at that time I wondered what was the value of "Daughtrr"(the word with an error) + "HARRY"(the word in capital Letters) The answer is 159. So, I decided to take a look at page 159 of Comedies in Shakespeare's First Folio. I still remember, as if it was yesterday, my surprise and my excitement discovering the content of this page ... https://internetshakespeare.uvic.ca/Library/facsimile/book/SLNSW_F1/177/?zoom=1275 I discovered for the very first time the only page of the First Folio that mentions the 9 muses 3x3 muses On the 177th page of the First Folio 177 = WILIIAM SHAKESPEARE Happy Birth-day Light-of-Truth ! ❤️

The same goes for me, Rob. What is more, this Bacon is Cholesterol-free ! 😊

Give me a deep-crown'd bowl, that I may sing In raising him, our dear Friend, our Brother, Light-of-Truth. Happy Birthday and much love, Rob ! 🍾🥂 Have a great day.

Hi everyone, I apologize for the digression but I would like to share something that I've just noticed. Few days ago, I made a stunning discovery that sent me back this evening to Ben Jonson's Eulogy, and I noticed two or three points that I had missed until now. By using two different counts for the numbering of the verses, the famous passage with "to shake a lance, as brandish't at the eyes of Ignorance" is framed by numbers 67 and 33 ... FRANCIS BACON !!! The 33rd line of the page is "The Sweet Swan of Avon". The 67th line of the poem is "Of Shakespeare's minde". I wonder if the two following lines : "Of all, that insolent Greece, or haugthie Rome" "Of Shakespeare's minde" (The only two verses of the poem beginning by "of") could be a hidden reference to Bacon's Essays. Finally, there are 33 words from SHAKESPEARE to SWAN. BACON 😊

Hi Rob, This is a very interesting finding. After some quick research, the verb "fly" appears only once in Shakespeare's Sonnets, right here in Sonnet 78. 😊

??? Thank you, Kate. I have just learned a new English word thanks to you. (Antsy 😄) And do not worry ! I am not antsy with you at all ! 😊 My apologies if my answer gave you this feeling.🙏 Much love, ❤️

Hi Kate, I would say that it is difficult to not be seen by the outside world as Bacon obsessives in a forum about Bacon, made by Baconians for the Baconians ! 😄 For example, I am a Baconian , in my "Heart" and in my "Eye". But sometimes, my eyes also see De Vere during my research. Thus, I am a Baconian opened to the possibility that De Vere could be involved. After all, there is no smoke without fire ( to keep in the theme of Emblem XXII 😊 ). And two or three times by the past, I shared with you the fruit of my research when I saw Bacon and De Vere hidden on the same page, by using the same technics. Back to Emblemata Sacra, the fact is that there are a Shakespeare-like figure and a Francis Bacon-figure with the motto Ne Quid Nimis (From Terence, and Shakespeare was Called Our English Terence by John Davies of Hereford). And Ne Quid Nimis can be related , as I showed you, to Mediocria Firma (That is Indeed Bacon's Familly motto and ipso facto Francis Bacon's motto). For example, Ne Quid Nimis can not be related to "Vero Nihil Verius" (Edward De Vere's motto) nor to "Quod menustrit me destruit " (Christopher Marlowe's motto). You mention "code and cipher pointing to Francis Bacon absolutely everywhere, when some acrostics, numbers etc, by the law of averages, will just be chance". The fact is that in my demonstration ( some will say suggestion 🙂) there were, for once, no acrostics. And that is exactly why I did not mentioned this ... 33 "words" by counting from 100. (But I keep opened to the possibity that it was planned.) Regarding the end of my previous post, and your remark, no Kate, everybody is not there, on B'Hive, for the Shakespeare Authorship Question ! And I have no problems with that. It was just a way to say to those who are really interested in the subject that the study of this Book was, in my opinion, worthwhile. The Emblem on page number 41 (Notice number 41) depicts the same Heart on an Altar than the one on the Symbol that crowns the Mastery of the Doctrine. Couldan "History of the winds" be in play ? I don't know. I just ask myself the question. 🙂 Finally, regarding your last question, I think that those are just lines, but I keep opened to all possibilities. 😊 « This art of memory is but built upon two intentions ; the one prenotion, the other emblem. Prenotion dischargeth the indefinite seeking of that we would remember, and directeth us to seek in a narrow compass, that is, somewhat that hath congruity with our place of memory. Emblem reduceth conceits intellectual to images sensible, which strike the memory more ; out of which axioms may be drawn much better practice than that in use ; and besides which axioms, there are divers more touching help of memory not inferior to them. » Francis Bacon - Advancement of Learning - Second Book

It is never too late, Rob ! 😊 https://archive.org/details/amorumfigurisaen00veen/page/42/mode/2up

AMAZING !!! The unvaluable Work of A Phoenix is now a bright Light illuminating the Net ! 😍 Thank you Lawrence and Rob for this marvellous idea. ❤️❤️❤️

Hi everyone, As I said yesterday, this book was my very first contact with Books of Emblems in 2014 a long time before the beginning of my Baconian/Shakespearean Research. I think that it is in 2018 that, as I was taking a look to Shakespeare's Sonnets, the Sonnet 46 (The Eye - the Heart) brought this book back to my memory. It is at that time that I discovered there were, interestingly, in Emblemata Sacra one Emblem depicting a man with a Shakespeare's like head holding a mask on his head (well spotted Rob 😉) and a mask in his hand and, a few pages after, another Emblem depicting a Francis Bacon's like figure with the motto Ne Quid Nimis . I did not know yet that Ne Quid Nimis was a reference to Terence in Andria Act I 30-35. https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Terence_Andria_1.1_Vat3868f4v.jpg?uselang=fr (Notice the masks) Later on, I understood that Mediocra firma and Ne Quid Nimis could be linked. Here is the printer mark of Gilles Robinot Ier (French printer from the 16th century) that links Ne Quid Nimis to the flight of Icarus http://www.bvh.univ-tours.fr/batyr/beta/notice_devise.php?devise=260 And Chapter XXVII of Francis Bacon's Book "Wisdome of the Ancients" is : The Flight of Icarus, also Scylla and Charybdis, or the Middle Way. https://www.bartleby.com/lit-hub/of-the-wisdom-of-the-ancients/xxvii-the-flight-of-icarus-also-scylla-and-charybdis-francis-bacon-15611626-of-the-wisdom-of-the-ancients-1857/ Francis Bacon's motto is Mediocria firma ... The Middle Way is safe ! In parallel, I began to take a closer look to other books of Emblems , discovering the books of Cesare Ripa and Alciati, and one day, I noticed an Emblem with a Fox holding a Mask with a reference to an actor's mask. Mentem, non formam plus pollere https://www.emblems.arts.gla.ac.uk/alciato/emblem.php?id=FALa048 "A fox, entering the store-room of a theatrical producer, found an actor’s mask, skilfully shaped, so finely fashioned that the spirit alone was missing, in all else it seemed alive. Taking it up, the fox addressed it - What a head is this, but it has no brain!" Once again, it reminded me Emblemata Sacra and I wondered if it could exist a link between this emblem and emblem XXII. That is when I decided to translate the Latin text and Irealised that the passage talked about ... A CUNNING FOX ! This is also when I decided to take a true closer look to this book. CJ , Kate, I respect your point of view. Kate , it doesn't matter if you think that it is a dead end. However, CJ, I do not interpret things with a desired end in mind !!! Most often, when I find something, my first thought is "No, it is not possible!" By my second thought is " What if ?" Then, I explore the possibility ! If the 1617 Edition of the Books contains 50 emblems, the 1624 edition contains 100 Emblems. 100 = FRANCIS BACON 100 emblems, really ? No, there is a one more Emblem (101) almost in the middle of the Book ... https://archive.org/details/emblematasacraho00cram/page/n225/mode/2up?ref=ol&view=theater Note the Harp of Apollo. By the way, the Lyre (ancestor ot the Harp) was invented by Mercury, the Trickster ! 😉 One of the two Angels holds and shows us an open book. Could it a be a clue ? There are only two other emblems with an open book in Emblemata Sacra (1624)... This is at this occasion, that I noticed that the arm holding the lamp looked like the head of a SWAN ! Thus, on one side I had the head of a Swan and on the other side the head of shakespeare. Shortly after, I noticed the misprinted page 103 ( SHAKESPEARE, simple cipher) with an Emblem that, in my view, was similar to the one on the Title page of Minerva Brittanna. Once again, my first reaction was "No, it is not possible !". But my second reaction was : "What if ?" In Minerva Britanna's Emblem , Mente Videbori means ... "By the mind I shall be seen !" Note that in "PRAEDESTINATOR" we have IESI and not IESU or IESUS. I wondered if it could be another clue. 119 = MEDIOCRIA FIRMA (Simple cipher) 77 = MINERVA (Simple cipher) 41 ... I did not know. Then, I had the idea to take a closer look at Emblems XLI of Part I and II ... By chance, the two emblems XLI were on both pages 177, the simple cipher of WILLIAM SHAKE-SPEARE. I will stop there. There is, in my view, more to find in this book for those who are opened to the idea of a potential link with the Shakespeare Authorship Question. Regards.

https://archive.org/details/emblematasacraho00cram/page/n84/mode/1up?ref=ol&view=theater https://archive.org/details/emblematasacraho00cram/page/17/mode/1up?ref=ol&view=theater https://archive.org/details/emblematasacraho00cram/page/n108/mode/1up?ref=ol&view=theater https://archive.org/details/minervabritannao00peac/page/n5/mode/2up

Hi A Phoenix, Interestingly enough, I've just noticed that the play had also been printed in 1600 for Nicholas Linge. https://www.alamy.com/every-man-out-of-his-humour-title-page-of-the-1600-edition-of-the-play-by-ben-jonson-image334255615.html By spotting the differences, I think that I found something ... https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/b/b4/Every_Man_Out.jpg AS IT WAS FIRST COMPOSED by the Author B.I. = 33 letters 33 = BACON (Simple cipher) Containing more than hath been publickely Spo - = 39 letters 39 = F. BACON (Simple cipher)

Hi Kate, Here is a translation of the first passage in latin on top of page 100 (Francis Bacon - simple cipher) https://archive.org/details/emblematasacraho00cram/page/100/mode/2up?ref=ol&view=theater Aut Lupus,aut certè Vulpecula callida formam Prae se sert fidei, nec pietate calet. Quid specie fallente lates, homo Polype? Virtus Doctrinae & Fidei non amat hanc speciem. Or a Wolf, or certainly a cunning Fox. Faith is set before him, and he is not warmed by piety. What is it that you conceal by deceitful appearance, man Polypus? Strength, Doctrine and Faith do not love this species. EDIT : I forgot to mention that , still in my view, the "cunning fox" is a reference to an oldest emblem : Mentem, non formam plus pollere https://www.emblems.arts.gla.ac.uk/alciato/emblem.php?id=FALa048 "A fox, entering the store-room of a theatrical producer, found an actor’s mask, skilfully shaped, so finely fashioned that the spirit alone was missing, in all else it seemed alive. Taking it up, the fox addressed it - What a head is this, but it has no brain!" -------------------------------------------------------------------- Regarding "Rhodo-stauros" this term is used by Ben Jonson in his Masque " The Fortunate Isles and their union" when he makes a reference to Julian de Campis and "The Castle in the Aire". 😉 https://archive.org/details/workesofbenjamin00jons/page/n389/mode/2up?ref=ol&view=theater https://archive.org/details/workesofbenjamin00jons/page/n389/mode/2up?ref=ol&view=theater And regarding "The Castle in the aire" here is a part of one of your recent post : https://www.britishmuseum.org/collection/object/P_1854-1113-154 Though concentrating on the foibles and follies of the gallant, who is by definition youthful, the verse makes clear that the Millions who resort to the Doctor come from Cuntry, Citty & the Court – i.e. that folly is no respecter of a person’s rank or origins. By his Waters Drugges ,Conserves & Potions, the Doctor purgeth fancies follies, Idle motions, many of which are detailed in the verses below the image, but also visualised in the phantasmagoria that escapes from the Gallants Fornace. The Doctor is currently pouring a dose labelled Wisdome and Understanding down the throat of a rude Rusticall who sits on a close-stool and through whom passe various animals and birds, including an ass, which is being milked by a man (in the German original only three little fools are excreted). The Doctor informs us that taking the Gallants Braine out and washing it had proved ineffective, but now, subliming his head in the furnace has yielded good Successe - in the form of the Strange Chimaera-Crotchetts visible in the smoke above. They are later referred to as both Projects and ayrie Castles - i.e. 'castles in the air', cf. from Burton’s contemporary Anatomy of Melancholy (1621): That castle in the ayr, that crochet, that whimsie[4] - and include cards, dice, backgammon-board, tobacco-pipes, violin, tennis, masks, feathers, plumed hat, swords, a dressed ape, a woman with a fan, a man teaching a horse to perform tricks, a bear-baiting, a boy flying a kite, a man with wings strapped to his shoulders (attempt at human flight? No Elizabethan/Jacobean candidate known to me, though doubtless they existed – for a while...), a man sliding down a rope from the tower of (Old) St. Paul's (a popular contemporary feat), jug and goblet, limed branch for bird-catching, a man walking a pair of hounds, and a fencer (with wings). Most of these are copied from the German original - the interest for us lies chiefly in those which were not, and which we may thus reasonably consider peculiarly English: they include the bear-baiting, the tobacco-pipes,[5] the St. Paul's rope-slider and the horse being taught tricks - perhaps intended to be William Banks and his celebrated horse 'Marocco'.[6]

Hi Eric, Hi Eric, Thank you. For the anecdote, this Book is my very first contact with The Book of Emblems in 2014. At that time I knew nothing about Shakespeare, Francis Bacon and the Authorship Question. I was interested in Oracles and I purchased a peculiar one with strange Emblems, and I felt the need to buy the 2013 edition of this Book to find out more about them. Two years later, I discovered the Shakespeare Authorship Question and one day my research sent me back to this Book and I began to see the Emblems from an alternate aspect. And yes, in my view Emblem XXII part II could be a reference to the Mask of Shakespeare. And Emblem XXXI a reference to Francis Bacon , our English TERENCE ( Ne quid nimis is a quote from Terence and is the equivalent ofMediocria firma ). Note that 22+ 31 = 53 = SWAN, SOW, POET And talking about SWAN ... https://archive.org/details/emblematasacraho00cram/page/n39/mode/2up?ref=ol&view=theater Note the arm that hold the Lamp ! 😉 Sonnet 46 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sonnet_46#/media/File:Sonnet_46_1609.jpg