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  1. 19 hours ago, CAB said:

    Here's one that with the usual cues shown earlier but with a different signature number.

    15)  Being alerted to possible clues in the text to a hidden signature earlier researchers knew that a number or the word ‘name’ or ‘count’ can indicate that one of Bacon’s significant numbers is very close by. In the ‘Rossilion’ candidate we have the words ‘name’ and ‘count’ together along with the number ‘one’.

     

    Now in the play Twelfth Night, soon after Act 1, Scene 4 begins, on page 257 of the Comedies, in the first column, we have this exchange:

     

        Enter Duke, Curio, and Attendants

    Vio. I thanke you: heere comes the Count.

    Duke. Who saw Cesario, hoa?

     

    Now, the word “count”, or “Count” as the title of a character is used often in the plays. There’s no suggestion that each one would be a signal of some cipher or code. It’s just that sometimes the text is such that it seems to hint at this and so stands out from other instances. Here, the line count reveals nothing, but the name Cesario, being emphasized with “Who saw….” appeared to be the best place to test. The Simple count for “Cesario” is 67, the same count as for “Francis” in the Simple alphabet. This finding wasn’t identified by earlier Baconians, nor was the Count Rossillion example but searching through the options with the key word ‘count’ led to them as promising candidates. To judge whether or not they are unlikely to be by coincidence we need to look at more examples.

     

    Cesario.jpg

    Using the great tool of Rob (Light-of-Truth) it seems that CESARIO share more than just the same simple cipher with "FRANCIS" 🙂

    image.png.757148db11aea2faf14dc24b7cb13f74.png

    image.png.147f73611ce345ea3c70fd9fe0300271.png

    In this case, it is easily understandable as the E  and the O of cEsariO  transform themselves into the F and the N of FraNcis.

     

    EDIT :

    Did you notice the reference to Sir Toby on the same "line" ?

    https://internetshakespeare.uvic.ca/Library/facsimile/book/Bran_F1/275/index.html%3fzoom=1200.html

    image.png.7e45094119c003e5de5eda6a24b905e6.png

    Another hidden reference to Toby/Tobie Matthews, Bacon's best friend and alter ego ?

    image.png.bbe1e3358e844c5df1118c5fcc8b9750.png

    https://internetshakespeare.uvic.ca/Library/facsimile/book/Bran_F1/20/index.html%3fzoom=1200.html

    (Sorry for the lack of references but I do not know who noticed these acrostics in the first instance.)

     

     

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  2. 19 hours ago, CAB said:

    Very very interesting again. Okay, here is a short but sweet one that wouldn't surprise me if you all already are familiar with it. So just to make sure, since I didn't see it in my first perusal, here it is:

    11)  A line count of 33 is also found in the Prologue of The Life of Henry the Fift. It’s worth a mention because the line has the word “Cyphers” in it as well as the word “Figure’ nearby. It can suggest that we can be “Cyphers” in the sense of having numerical names. It seems to say that the writer, at least, is a ‘cypher’ and he’s associated this claim with the number 33.

    The word “Accompt”, though outwardly meaning a “narrative” accords with “Figure” and “Cyphers” in its other usage as a term related to “reckoning” or “counting”.

     

     

    Ciphers_Accompt.jpg

    Hi CAB,

    Thank you. Personally, I was not familiar with this one.

    image.png.fdb5c51f444587376a1088324af4a024.png

    https://internetshakespeare.uvic.ca/Library/facsimile/book/Bran_F1/423/index.html%3fzoom=1200.html

    Here is something interesting.

    If the last line has 33 letters, the previous line has 27 letters (3^3).

    And these two lines are lines 16 and 17.

    16 + 17 = 33

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  3. 4 minutes ago, Eric Roberts said:

    I forgot to mention for those who may not be aware that this beautiful woman was the wife of Sir Francis Bacon's biological brother, Robert Devereux.

    Hi Eric,

    Personnely, I  pushed the "WOW" button after reading the incredible story of this painting, thanks to the link you provided. 🙂

    Thank you for sharing.🙏

     

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  4. About Adam's skull:

    https://golgotha.site/adams-skull/

    I see a link with page 277 of Hamlet.

    277 = 100 (FRANCIS BACON) + 177 (WILLIAM SHAKESPEARE)

    https://internetshakespeare.uvic.ca/Library/facsimile/book/SLNSW_F1/785/index.html%3fzoom=1275.html

    And I have already shared my thoughts and the fruits of my research on this page and its link ,in my view, with Shakespeare's monument, in another topic.

    image.png.83a174b18561b8c50c971c556e0938e6.pngAbout the harrowing of Hell :

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harrowing_of_Hell

    "For just as Jonah was three days and three nights in the belly of the sea monster,

    so for three days and three nights the Son of Man will be in the heart of the earth."

    Matthew 12:40

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  5. I think that there are far more things hidden on this page 365.

    https://internetshakespeare.uvic.ca/Library/facsimile/book/SLNSW_F1/873/index.html%3fzoom=1275.html

    image.png.3188ab2a9645404ac8956e5a0c795cdd.png

    "Looke him i'th'Face" is line 33 (33 = BACON).

    Interestingly, if there was not this contraction of "in the Face" then Face would be the 33rd word by counting from "Pray you ... ".

    Right below "Looke" we have a hanged HOG in acrostic.

    And as you know HANG-HOG is latten for BACON.

    But can we find the word "hang" ?

    Indeed !

    On line 67 🙂 (67 = FRANCIS)

    image.png.baa19173ae3ad54288b17cbabf5f48bb.png

    One last idea ...

    "Royal Queene" is on line 39 (C.I.) that is the simple cipher of F. BACON

     

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  6. 7 hours ago, CAB said:

    I suppose you all may also know of this next one. 

    In Anthony and Cleopatra (page 365) there is a another suggestive finding, when we have:

     

    Cleo. What’s thy name?

    Pro. My name is Proculeius.

    Cleo.  Anthony

     

    Here, neither the name “Proculeius” nor the letter count of this line or the line directly across equals a significant number. However, the following line with Cleopatra speaking “Anthony”, which is the only word on that line, is across from the line in the next column which is

     

    “It shall content me best: Be gentle to her”.

     

    This line does have a count of 33, again the simple count for “Bacon”. And being opposite the name of Anthony we have the name of Francis’ brother “Anthony Bacon”. This Anthony, who likewise had superb language skills, has received some speculation as being a collaborator with Francis in writing plays.  Elsewhere Anthony seems to be likened to the mythical Phoenix in “Thou Arabian bird!”, and in this same play, this would make another unlikely coincidence, if that’s what it is. Now in this case the line count of 33 is found in the adjacent column directly across from the name Anthony. We know now that this is not so strange since we are seeing it multiple times.

     

    Anthony_33.jpg

    Great find CAB !

    I also C BACON 😊

    image.png.920ec78a4a1be960fb8da5b9db6bab10.png

    https://internetshakespeare.uvic.ca/Library/facsimile/book/SLNSW_F1/873/index.html%3fzoom=1275.html

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  7. 7 hours ago, CAB said:

    My gosh, and here I was concerned I might be stretching your imaginations a bit too much! So now I doubt that's even possible as yours are already stretched much beyond mine! Thank you all for your knowledge, insights, and sharing! And though I said we may not be able to use hardly any of these cipher discoveries in a court case if we ever had that chance, still there are good reasons for this avenue of research. 1. Since we know that Bacon was a cipher expert and learned to use them while still a youth, and since many writers of the time used them, and with all the non-cipher evidence of his authorship, it would have thrown up a very big red flag if no or few hidden cipher candidates were found in the Shak works.  2. Bacon wanted the world, especially that of the sciences but also with everyday people, to use the inductive aspect of reasoning, and searching for cipher patterns in the works can help with that.  3. The more we find the better we can understand his own thinking and how stretched his mind really was.  4. And if we ever had a chance to compare some of our cipher evidence with that of the Oxfordians, I'm sure the Baconians were come out very favorable and it may even be enough to end the debate over the best alternate authorship candidate.

    Now a couple of you, Light-of-Truth and Allisnum2er, mentioned the 'Lord Bacon' cipher so I will show that next. I've liked it very much too! 

    This is in the play of Anthony and Cleopatra, Act 3, Scene 13, pg 357.  Again, we have an asking of a name:

     

    Cleo. What’s your name?

     The line following that of Cleopatra’s also does not seem to have the potential as a hidden signature:

     “Thid.  My name is Thidias.”

     

    But directly across from “What’s your name?” in the next column is “And plighter of high hearts. O that I were” which has a letter count of 33. Again, the meaning of the sentence is not the pertinent factor when we’re looking for numerical signatures. Just in front of this line, and in the previous column where we find “What’s your name” is the second syllable of “Land-lord”, so just “lord”, one of Bacon’s most common titles and how others often referred to him. Together they can be read as “lord 33” and so “Lord Bacon”. Whether this might be a planned cipher or just a suggestive coincidence we cannot know for sure. But it’s associated with an identity question as well as a significant letter count and title for Bacon. Here's the screen shot:

     

     

    Lord_33-Bacon.jpg

    Thank you again CAB !

    I love this one too. 😊

    image.png.9f6a35e5e45033f55e57a4ceadf4dcd2.png

    https://internetshakespeare.uvic.ca/Library/facsimile/book/SLNSW_F1/865/index.html%3fzoom=1275.html

    Notice that by counting from "To let a Fellow ..." , "were" is the 33rd word.

    Thus "And plighter of high hearts. O that I were" has 33 letters and ends on the 33rd word.

    Rob, yesterday you asked me to find TUDOR bu t I did not find one that satisfied me.

    But today, I found an interesting one thanks to "Kingly Seale" 😉 

    image.png.d56fc0c07ca11cc1fa448d241a720af8.png

    W. TUDOR

    And here is another possible reference to Anthony Bacon a few lines earlier ...

    image.png.98db745bbffbce15d740d8a8dcdb2a65.png

    I am Anthony BAcon

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  8. 10 minutes ago, Light-of-Truth said:

    Perfect! 🙂

    Did you notice the “What’s his name?” then across the page “Lord Bacon” that I missed on my giant PC but saw on my tiny phone just now eating lunch and having a beer? Lol

    Yes, Indeed ! I noticed the possibility of  "Lord f bacOn" with the "f" of "farre" and the "c" of respect.

    Edit:

    But I just noticed the C of Cap 😅

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  9. Thank you for sharing CAB,

    Here are some thoughts regarding the passage you mention ...

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    I f we take the two "Count" in count 😊 ...

    They provide us with two letters C : CC # 33 = BACON

    "Countriman" is the 6th word

    "Count" is the 20th word

    20 + 6 = 26 # B.F.

    Moreover,

    "eare" is the 30th word and "heares" is the 32nd word

    30 + 32 = 62 # F.B.

    The 26th word ot this passage is "one"

    Is there a link between "one" and "twenty-six" ?

    Indeed! In hebrew the letter A(1) is Aleph (ALP = 1 + 30 + 80 = 111)

    It is said that the letter aleph א is made of one letter vav(6) and two letter yod(10)

    Thus Aleph = 1 but also 26 and 111(ALP)

     And here is another possibility ...

    image.png.2827e9c2bc6fccff5c533227b3b877e4.png

    His name I pray you ?

    baCon

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  10. Hi A Phoenix,

    First of all, many thanks (once again) for your top-notch work on the Memoriae.❤️

    I would like to share with you a very short video that I have just made on the fly, inspired by your last posts and based on a discovery made last summer, and some slides that I had prepared at that time for a video that I did not finished. 😅

     

     

     

     

     

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  11. 6 hours ago, peethagoras said:

    Yes Allisnum2er and thanks: I see the 5 men, not sure what to say here except that the labels set under that image indicate the first 5 letters of the alphabet:

    Noting the sign on the cross: I N R I and considering our modern abc, which as you know, was derived from it, set it out as a 3 row by 9 table and you will see a cross in the center made from NEW (in column 5) crossed by J N R J (using the same J):
          

    ABCDEFGHI

    JKLMNOPQR

    STUVWXYZ

             But what do you make of them?

    I also see the skull and single bone, but I don't think there's any RC connection, I think they are meant to represent Golgatha: place of the skull on Mount Calvary.

    On a lighter note, the horse in the front does not agree with the three crucifixions: neigh, neigh neigh.

     

    Hi Peethagoras,

    You asked if there was a link between the Skull, the bones and the RC.

    It shows you the link between the Skull, the bones and the Cross. (The Skull being the one of Adam)

    Here are some ideas that I have already shared by the past.

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    https://books.google.fr/books?id=YXtSAAAAcAAJ&pg=PA222-IA2&hl=fr&source=gbs_selected_pages&cad=1#v=onepage&q&f=false

    image.png.1f0fc7e7e872f299a0bb85c5134bcc78.png

    And in the 2nd image that I shared (with the 5 men around the Christ), I see the Cross and the Rose of Venus.

    (Do I have to draw a picture ? 🙂 )

    https://briankoberlein.com/post/rose-of-venus/

    Rob, Emblem 33 represents the Parable of the Good Samaritan.

    https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Luke 10%3A25-37&version=NIV

     

     

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  12. 8 hours ago, peethagoras said:

    The big problem as I see things, a vertebrae is a column of bones. I see two skulls in the monument, and I get the Bacon-Dee-Jonson Rosicrucian thing, but is there any reference anywhere to "bones" related to that subject? Did a skull and crossed bones symbolize the RC?

    Book page image

    https://archive.org/details/EvangelicaeHistoriaeImagines/page/n139/mode/2up?view=theater

    Book page image

    https://archive.org/details/EvangelicaeHistoriaeImagines/page/n141/mode/2up?view=theater

    (Notice the placement of the 5 men around the Christ.)

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  13. 23 minutes ago, Light-of-Truth said:

    Hmmmm...

    "Free..."

    Of course even CJ must recognize the word "Free" as FREE which is 33 Simple cipher the same as BACON.

    Obviously Bacon knew that 400 years ago as he was not an idiot during a time when Cabala was being enjoyed.

    "Free we are to try."

    FREE WE ARE TO TRY is 174 Simple cipher which is the same as FRANCIS BACON TUDOR.

    Count the words:

    05 - Free we are to try.

    10 - But in order to succeed, patience and perseverance are needed,

    09 - As well as good knowledge of the hermetic language.

    02 - "Corde incipite "

    07 - Never forget ! Apply thy heart unto Wisdome.

    5 + 10 + 9 + 2 + 7 = 33 which is the Simple cipher of BACON.

    Can't miss the acrostic:

    F
    B
    A
    Co
    N

    Add up all the uppercase letters, F B A C N A W and we have 177 Kaye cipher which I would expect in this series of coincidences as 177 is the Simple cipher for WILLIAM SHAKESPEARE.

    A few hours ago CJ said, "177 does not tell you anything."

    See now is the time for Allisnum2er to tell us all that he never intended any hidden meaning and everything is all merely coincidences. And then I would agree. We might all say we support what CJ says that 177 means nothing and that gematria is something Bacon would ever even consider using for any purpose. Nor would we. Don't chop off our heads in the town square!

    Yea, perfect! 🙂

    Now I hope I can poke around for more coincidences. 😉

     

    Well done Rob ! 😊❤️

    You're right. Here are the missing elements.

    I am very proud of my FBCANAW that is indeed 177 Kay cipher and ... 47 simple cipher.

    47 is the simple cipher of ATHENA, the spear-shaker, Francis Bacon's muse and the Goddess of "Wisdome".

    Thus, the W of Wisdome gives the final count of 47(ATHENA) / 177 (WILLIAM SHAKESPEARE)

    "Wisdome" with a final "e" was also on purpose , giving a total of 155 letters ( WILL SHAKESPEARE simple cipher).

    Before "Wisdome" there are 148 letters ( WILLIAM TUDOR simple cipher).

    "Corde incipite" is the motto of "Saint FRANCIS International School"

    And "Apply thy heart unto Wisdome" is a reference to  one of Bacon's Prayers.

    "Teach us, O Lord, so to NUMBER our days, that we may apply our hearts unto wisdom; make us ever mindful of our last end, and continually to exercise the knowledge of grace in our hearts, that in the said divorce of soul and body, we may be translated here to that kingdom of glory prepared for all those that love thee, and shall trust in thee."

    https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/The_Works_of_Francis_Bacon/Volume_2/Bacons_Prayers

    There are also references to your post:

     In your post :

    "Try" is the 33rd word (33 = BACON)

    " needed" is the 100th and last word (100 = FRANCIS BACON)

    "language" is the 55th word (55 = WILL)

    I thought it was a good "example". 😉 

     

     

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  14. 17 hours ago, Light-of-Truth said:

    I am reasonably sure Bacon suggested a perfect cipher could not be proved. I know we who have used ciphers totally get that concept. "You think I said what? Never! You can try to prove it, but you will never be able to!"

    Yet entire conversations can be shared by those who understand the language.

    So yes, Bacon and others left examples describing ciphers that have rigid rules. The biliteral is a perfect example.

    Gematria, acrostics, anagrams, visual symbology and subtle hints in plain text can and sometimes do tell secrets yet have the quality of being denied when needed.

    😉

     

     Free we are to try.

    But in order to succeed, patience and perseverance are needed,

    As well as good knowledge of the hermetic language.

    "Corde incipite "

    Never forget ! Apply thy heart unto Wisdome.

    😉

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  15. 3 hours ago, peethagoras said:

    There seems to be some interest in ALC in another place, so I thought I would add a few

    comments on the same here:  A lovers complaint stanza 1

    Line 6 (F) says:
    Tearing of papers breaking rings a twaine.

    Letter O looks remarkably like a ring

    Line 6 (F) word 2 (B) is "OF"

    Breaking O in two: O = 14, divided by 2 = 7
    So O when 'broken' represents 7 and 7.

    The stanza contains 7 lines.

    Numeric acrostic 7 letters on left-hand side = 62 = FB
    Numeric acrostic 7 letters on right-hand side = 33 = BACON

    sum of 62 and 33 = 95 = ELIZABETH + L **(see 11 later)

    1st initials all words line 1 sum: 91

    1st initials all words line 7 (count stops at comma) sum: 86

    91 + 86 = 177 = WILLIAM SHAKESPEARE = 91 + VERULAM

    The remaining two initials after the comma sum to 38 (T T).

    adding 91 to 38 gives 129, so we have altogether:

          FRANCIS BACON VERULAM 29 WILLIAM SHAKESPEARE

      where B = 2 and I = 9: Ignoring one of the men involved, Ben Ionson:


                          FRANCIS BACON VERULAM  B  WILLIAM SHAKESPEARE

     

    Hi Peethagoras,

    The counts in acrostic (62) and telestic (33) are interesting.

    You've made a mistake in your count after the comma : "wind and raine" => W(21) + A(1) + R(17) = 39

    So, following your idea, it gives us  91 + 86 + 39

    91 + 86 = 177 = WILLIAM SHAKESPEARE    39 = F. BACON

    Interestingly, 86 + 39 = 125 = 5^3 = 5 x 5 x 5

    91 + 86 + 39  = 216 = 6^3 = 6 x 6 x 6

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  16. 19 hours ago, RoyalCraftiness said:

    I am not one to subscribe to the idea that Francis Bacon was given initials FB to allow for this coincidence. Should we think that Bacon's parents saw him as a Christ figure? That's something that I am much more willing to suspect is a belief held in a cult of Francis Bacon.

    I do not necessarily subscribe to the idea that Francis Bacon was given initials FB to allow for this coincidence, but I am open to the possibility that Francis Bacon might have played with this coincidence.

    "Should we think that Bacon's parents saw him as a Christ figure?"

    6 years ago, I did not have preconceived ideas, even if I had heard about the Tudor Theory.

    What I think today is based on my research.

    Few years ago, they led me to decipher one passage of a play in which I found a reference to one painting and two engravings by Albrecht Dürer.  I only knew one of the two engravings ... Melencholia I.

    The second engraving was the following one...

    image.png.5624164e6a95e69c6b723014a664767e.png

    And the painting was The Madonna of the Carnation.

    image.png.cf77b454e20bcd2608eda61c5a8353cc.png

    This painting of Dürer with the Child Jesus holding an apple, reminded me the painting of Francis Bacon as a child.

    In the same passage I found a reference to the Phoenix Nest, and I learned that it was the title of a book dedicated to Robert Dudley( known to be the lover of the "Virgin" Queen) with a poem telling us that he lived "as a God".

    image.png.87a9257ba618bb9912483f05971973c9.png

    https://archive.org/details/bim_early-english-books-1475-1640_the-phoenix-nest-_s-r_1593/page/n11/mode/2up

    From there, I connected the dots.

    In passing, there are some medals from the 16th century related with the Fall of man and the Crucifixion.

    https://subastas.monedalia.es/en/lot/900/alemania-1536-germany-medal-1536-the-/

    https://www.coinworld.com/news/world-coins/1557-gold-medal-tells-bible-story-of-adam-and-eve.html

     

     

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