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What’s the 72 at the bottom. Was that his age at death? Also, notice the A under the desk. It’s on the FB one too. Looks like a very definite A in the middle but could be shadow and nothing?

Is this guy above on the right Devereux? He’s identical to the Dr Panargus guy. (We can’t pick and choose when we want it to be Bacon just to make it fit.) Here’s the higher resolution picture of Wotton again from further up. Certainly there is a black mark around the chin making it look like the Droeshout mask, but I also see a black area under his elbow on the chair, so I’m not sure. It was you, Eric, who first pointed out last year (or earlier) how common it was for engravings and pictures to be reused and reworked. A sceptic would say it’s nothing more than that but I still think (I have lightened this one a little so you can see the buttons more clearly) that there are subtle nods to the Droeshout here. They couldn’t have made the doublet identical - it would have been too obvious in such close proximity to 1623, and they were still executing/beheading people well into the 1700s, so as you say, they’d surely only add clues for those with the eyes to see (?). The high forehead and the bottom lip are very ‘Droeshout’ too.

So, apologies if this is stuff you’ve already covered, but I’m struck by how the striped arm markings and pattern within the stripes on the Wotton picture, on the doublet, are so similar to the Droeshout. There is also a row of buttons down the front. Plus, if you brought the collar together under the chin it would form a shield/spade shape like on the Droeshout with vaguely similar rays on. This is cryptically showing everyone in 1657 that Shakespeare lies under the mask of Wotton (because he’s wearing a very similar pattern to that on the shoulder of the Droeshout). Plus it is showing that Shakespeare is Bacon, because it’s exactly the same picture as we see for Bacon on the frontispiece of his Advancement of Learning Book (yes?). This has to be some of the most compelling evidence I’ve seen. What about the inscription? What is concealed in that? What is written on “Wotton’s” book? I can see a single G. Can we get any clearer? Again, sorry if this is something you’ve covered. It’s subtle similarities but enough to convince me.

Hi AP, I can usually follow your train of thought but I’m hitting a blind spot here. What do you mean by Henry being a mask for the former (Bacon). Obviously (I think?) you mean Bacon used Wotton’s name to pass off his own work undetected, but why and where? Is the answer in one of your papers? Thanks

Thanks for sharing that link. I’ve just skip read through it all. You can see why he became a Shakespeare candidate. Fascinating. What strikes me is, are there no letters bemoaning the passing of Shakespeare in 1616? Has anyone ever heard of any, anywhere. I had no idea Wotton was Provost of Eton. Interesting to see it spelt as Eaton too. This is another strange link to my life which seems to have followed this band of men (Dudley, Dee, Bacon and now Wotton) around, because my daughter went to Eton College. It was her first pre-school. A school within the college set up for the children (hence male and female) of the Masters. They offered a few places for those in the area who were not children of the ‘Beaks’. I never knew Bacon had wanted to be Provost. This is the first I’ve read of it in here. Eric, I also noticed this reference to Thomas Wentworth - remember the picture of him in the Droeshout ruff.

Just reposted the ‘fly through the Shakespeare Folger Library’ YouTube video on social media. I noticed a poem that seems carved in a way that may suggest cipher - equally may not! Tried the Bi-literal cipher, but so far can’t see anything. Might be worth a look. There’s a slight difference in the h’s and p’s as well as the obvious ones. Here’s another. Like I say, could be ‘nothing to see here’. Nice to see them anyway.

Thanks for posting all this AP. Nothing about De Morte then?

Not convinced. This is great. The other is good, but imo just seems different in flow and why would he talk about the seven ages of man but now truncate it to six? A great find to debate. Found this too This group is claiming Wotton to be Shakespeare.

That’s really interesting re the 287, and I do see the All the World's a stage link, but I secretly rather hope it’s not Bacon as it’s incredibly clunky. Doesn’t have that beautiful Shakespearean flow, imo.

Could only get to 5. What the heck is entablature? I’m about to find out by asking Google!

This tragic event happened at Wilton House recently. I had never heard the family name Threipland before. I guess if he was stepfather it’s a different lineage. So sad. https://www.salisburyjournal.co.uk/news/23607948.earl-pembrokes-stepfather-found-dead-wilton-estate/

This is great! Can you tweet it x

Do your stuff, Baconians!

Hi Eric Yes, regarding the mask, I agree. I thought I’d just mention the connection to St Alban and his lack of eyes as the emblem came straight to mind. Thanks for putting your view. We have to be sure not to try and make things fit or we just become guilty of what we (I) accuse Stratfordians of! 😬 With regards to the ruff. I say this because I’m a bit of a pedant, not to be defensive, but in my article I didn’t say the shape of this ruff wasn’t around, it’s on the Cobbe and is obviously a vaguely similar shape to the collar on the Chandos that I’ve heard it said Droeshout may have been working from. I was pointing out that they usually had lace on them, not sun rays, except on the warriors and Court military that Peethagoras had introduced in the thread we have on it. The top one is interesting for although it has lace there are some lines on it. I’m not sure the middle two above are comparable though, as neither come right under the chin, they have a deep V. That said my assertion is now blown out of the water if this last picture you’ve posted above is proved to be from before the Droeshout made an appearance. There are definitely similar sun rays on it. It seems to say Wentworth, First Earl of Stafford? There are 6 pages of portraits of him online but no similar ruff that I could see. Great find. We perhaps need to keep digging!

Thank you, Lawrence. By some coincidence this just happened tonight at Windsor Castle. https://mol.im/a/12312267 It includes a couple of pictures of some Shakespeare ‘thespians’, and the new King Charles with a First Folio. There’s a write up on Reuters newsfeed, and in The Telegraph too.

Just learned something new, which immediately made me think of this: Francis Bacon, Peter Dawkins once taught me, was given the title of Viscount St Alban - not Viscount (of) St Albans. I just learned from a video about the Saint that (in legend) when St Alban was executed, his eyes rolled out of his skull. It made me immediately think of this emblem. If it is depicting a mask relating to the Shakespeare authorship, it could be telling us it’s someone connected to St Alban, as there are no eyes on the right. Bacon!

Why thank you so much, Eric. That was my intention - to try and make it easy to understand - so I’m really pleased by your comment. Thanks again 😊

Thank you so much, Yann

Through some strange synchronicity or even serendipity, I just RT’d something by Massimo about anamorphosis. Most people are aware this was a technique Holbein used in his famous work ‘The Ambassadors’ to hide a skull, but in the replies someone had posted a video from The Met which shows the technique was often used in woodcuts too. I think we may need to revisit some woodcuts with fresh eyes. Here’s the video. It’s about half way through. It’s bad quality but watch anyway from there to the end (or all of it!)

Happy for any feedback, thanks RC. I must admit though, I'm having trouble pinpointing exactly what it is you are objecting to. I obviously get that you think I should have let a neutral party look it over, but is your main concern the title? You feel it doesn't fit the body of the text and misleads the reader? I can easily change the title and lose the word 'mystery'. Can you perhaps suggest a new one that would better reflect the content? K

Thank you!

Here’s an article I just posted on Twitter. I asked AP to look it over before posting and he kindly replied using a lot of adjectives, which left me flattered and in no doubt that he thought it’s rather good! ☺️Hope everyone else likes it. If so please share on socials, especially FB and others as I’m only on Twitter. It’s not new info for us Baconians as we know all this, but for those who are still quite confused by all the fuss and confusion over the authorship of the First Folio and sonnets and its connection to the Rosicrucians. https://the-power-paradox.shorthandstories.com/the-shakespeare-authorship-question-unravelling-the-mystery/index.html Thank you

What a fabulous book, Eric! I’ve just looked through it. Really fascinating. Thanks

I thought someone might like to see this original 1618 picture from The Mirror of the Wisdom of the Rosy Cross, that I stumbled across in a Bodleian Library blog. https://blogs.bodleian.ox.ac.uk/archivesandmanuscripts/2020/04/14/the-mirror-of-wisdom-in-the-weston-stacks-ms-lat-misc-e-74/ There's one more picture there too As far as I can make out, the black and white is the well known engraving from this original picture. "In 1618, Speculum sophicum Rhodo-Stauroticum (The Mirror of the Wisdom of the Rosy Cross) was published by one “Theophilus Schweighardt” (a pseudonym, thought to be the German alchemist Daniel Mögling)." (It is hi-res so you can zoom in)

Standing at one point he grasps all things (Taken from book of emblems and Shakespeare posted in separate topic)