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  1. There are a lot of wise words above Rob and Marvin. I appreciate it. Hopefully we can we draw a line under it all now. 🙏

    Re Hen W, I wasn’t being “woke” (I’m so NOT woke!) and know that I posted to encourage him or her to keep sharing.

    I couldn’t really get on board with it or understand a few parts, but really valued that his or her ideas were presented in a detailed, thoughtful, and respectful way and obviously a ton of time and effort had gone into the theory. Also I found it fascinating what this might say about the way consciousness works, as there’s no doubt there were some jaw-dropping coincidences in what Hen W presented. 

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  2. 3 hours ago, RoyalCraftiness said:

    Cease and desist with your constant attempts to hurt or shame me. 


    Nope, sorry, I’m not having that. My concern is that someone reading from outside may think there is some truth to what you say. I do not write posts like I did without very good reason. I’m all for positivity and peace. 

    There is history here because you have systemically tried to annoy and upset  people on this forum over a lengthy timeframe with your disruptive/contentious manner. You know it, you’ve done it very recently, but you now seek to paint me as the one at fault rather than owning it.

    RC, perhaps try and foster some self awareness. Are you aware you talk at people rather than with them. There is never a conversation just a massive rambling dump of your “knowledge” whether it pertains to the topic or not.  No one else is like this. Everyone is unique and respectful and will obviously present in different ways but you have said some unkind things to some or tried to diminish them for no reason - which is why it is only Rob or occasionally Yann, who tends to engage with your posts.

    You are right though, it is personal because initially when others wanted you gone I thought you brought a bit of critical thinking to the forum and stuck up for you. 

    Believing I must have blocked you or spoken badly of you (rather than realising people off their own bat were giving you a wide berth) you then engaged in what I can only term oblique passive/aggressive comments about me, but also I witnessed what in my opinion were misogynistic comments regarding your wife and women in general.

    That triggered me to very strongly call you out on your behaviour last year in having no boundaries on the forum and sending threads off topic. Since then, to the best of my knowledge, we have ignored each other. 

    Very recently however,  I saw you saying something to Hen W in an authoritative manner that I knew to be inaccurate.  I sent a brief correction and said I was using AI (to deliberately de-personalise it).

    Despite saying  I had used AI for a reason, you then called it lame for me to use AI. I did not respond but I did notice your blatant hypocrisy in proceeding -  over several following posts - to use AI to reinforce your points! 🤷🏻‍♀️

    I would not, and have not had to the best of my knowledge, any other contact with you except those two, starting in 2023. The only reason I answered this (making three) is because it was a direct response to me, quoting me, misinterpreting what I had written and intimating I or others are delusional.  


    PS. I had also noticed (unless you have had private DM conversations in which it was discussed) you automatically assumed Hen W was a man ( that may well be but you didn’t ask, but appeared to just assume). For the record too, nothing in my original post used AI as you intimate here, and nor do I ever use it without saying I have done so. Let’s go back to politely ignoring each other but please could you at least try and say in your posts that “you believe” or “you think” something may be a certain way, rather than lecturing and stating incorrect things as fact or I will have no option but to use that block feature. Hopefully this clears the air.IMG_2547.jpeg.f00e8e5bbe11ccd7eaad5e2b70832333.jpeg

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  3. On 5/8/2024 at 3:34 PM, jon bentley said:

    Kate, there is no doubt that the Sinclair family who descended from the St Clairs of SW France  Cathar/Knights Templar/Freemasonry beliefs and who helped build Roslyn in Scotland with its amazing Hermetic and Freemasonry frescoes and designs knew the old Viking routes to America via Greenland.


    Hi John

    Nice to hear from you. 

    I think it’s fairly easy to deduce how these stories may have arisen.  I’d prefer to take notice of the words committed to paper of those who were born in the same century or close to the colonisation of Nova Scotia as possible - and especially authorities on Freemasonry - than to people born c300+ years later. Two of them, Webb and Cross, do indeed make it clear that the Templar Knights are inextricably linked to Masonry and to Nova Scotia. 

    Also, although records suggest that it was the Italian Navigator, John Cabot, who first landed in this part of the world in 1497,  in 1998 the Nova Scotia Legislature adopted Resolution 353. This pertains to discovering whether Prince Henry Sinclair was actually the first to step on land, now called Nova Scotia, in 1398. While this didn’t mean he did, it undoubtedly helped fuel the idea of the stories and conspiracy theories which had grown throughout the 20th century of treasure being taken over. In my opinion though, this could never have included the Ark of the Covenant, as that is an allegory.  

    As far as I’m aware Henry may have been Grandfather to William Sinclair (? - check that) the builder of Rosslyn Chapel and the Sinclairs were definitely Masons.

    Interestingly, there is also an old story, said to date back to 1606, that suggests a stone 2 ft x 2 ft was unearthed on Goat Island. The similarities to the OI story are ridiculously close - why did that location not also become a focus? Why are there two such similar stories? Goat is a word very linked to Masonry so looks like another hoax.

    As for William Alexander, such was his importance (seemingly diminished by RC) that there is a stone erected to him in Victoria Park, Halifax, Nova Scotia. He, as I’m sure you will be aware, was a Royal Courtier and noble.  He’s definitely another key link in the Bacon/Shakespeare authorship question - which again I’m sure you know from your own extensive research.

    Sir William Alexander of Menstrie had apparently (may be a rumour) pointed out to King James I that the New World had already spawned a New England, a New France and a New Spain but there was no New Scotland. It seems the King signed a charter that land then known as Acadia between New England and Newfoundland (new found land) would henceforth be designated as New Scotland (Nova Scotia) 

    This area which houses Oak Island (formerly known as Gloucester Isle after William, Duke of Gloucester). Again, I believe he was King George III’s brother (check that though) and other islands had been named after his family members, such as Prince Edward and Adolphus Island.

    The entire province, which included the present province of Nova Scotia and New Brunswick and most of the Gaspe peninsular (now belonging to Quebec) was thus administered by Sir William Alexander and he was known to mine for minerals (hence ab explanation for pits and shafts).

    In 1624, James announced that in order to colonise the land and to fund the endeavour, a new order of Baronet Knights  would be created. James died in 1625 but Charles 1 worked with Sir William to implement the scheme.

    The Baronets could receive their patents in Edinburgh rather than London.

    So all this is to say, I agree the links seem pretty indisputable. I’m writing this in a rush so happy to be corrected on dates and anything here as I’d usually double check my notes (some of these are from something I wrote around 2002). IMG_2544.jpeg.44e210c6ce50b36fbe65a0433c2ded19.jpegIMG_2545.jpeg.b05b483231a77b2f9f59afc0fb94d7e5.jpeg

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  4. 14 hours ago, RoyalCraftiness said:

    This covers exactly one part of the story details from the period around 1840. There's no historical evidence of there being even a rumor of any this treasure story prior to about 1830,


    Honestly RC, I despair. One would have to be a Saint to not be irritated by your delivery and tone in response to many posts on this forum. With this one, your reply to me is such a rambling word salad, that I had to run it by my good friend Claude and ask it to summarise!…

    This long-winded reply going deep into speculative Masonic narratives and island mythology is confounding.

    Instead of a direct refutation of your viewpoint that there is nothing of substance to the Oak Island legends, you received a winding discourse that engages with and validates the very same unsubstantiated mythology you had dismissed as a hoax.

    Rather than address that stance head-on, you were met with ungrounded theorizing about the story's origins that fails to actually counter your overarching skepticism of the entire narrative.”

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  5. Nipped into the (free) History of Science Museum yesterday - a regular haunt of mine. The building is the original location of Elias Ashmole’s collection in 1683. In the late 1800s the collection moved into the much larger Ashmolean Museum, a few streets away in Oxford. It is the world’s oldest surviving purpose-built museum! This is Queen Elizabeth 1st’s astrolabe and beneath it is a replica of John Dee’s mysterious Holy Table.  I’ve posted that before but this keeps them all together. 

    Also in this beautiful old building is a very rare celestial globe by the polymath, Johannes Schoner dating back to the early 1500s, plus tons of astronomical instruments - and far more.







    Elias Ashmole is a huge key in the entire Bacon/Shakespeare authorship question. Researching him takes you down a very exciting rabbit hole. He is thought to have been instrumental in shaping modern Freemasonry - the Freemasonry that candidates practice today in England.  He was acquainted with John Dee’s son Arthur. You can zoom in to these high definition photos above to see more.



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  6. Apologies in advance if viewing on a desktop - I know images all look huge and less crisp, making a post very lengthy to scroll, whereas on a mobile phone, which I use, they are neatly sized.

    I said a while back I’d post on this subject after finding an old document, with images,  that I’d written around 2002. More recently I wrote this:

    “The Oak Island Mystery has captured the public imagination for centuries, but was it all an elaborate hoax, or a case of an over-active imagination; perhaps fuelled by taking allegories too literally? Well, you decide. This is an early schematic drawing of the pit’ from  https://www.oakislandmystery.com/research/d-arcy-o-connor/folder-view/15-artwork


    …and this old image is not of the famous Oak Island “money pit” but is a Masonic illustration.


    There’s no doubt some form of pit, mine shaft or sink hole was found, but the fact it was found by THREE boys (some early stories say it was only found by 1 boy and he returned with friends) because something - said to resemble a hoist - was hanging from a tree over an indentation in the ground (cited in early records as 13ft across) with something found at nine (3x3), 10ft intervals (to an initial depth of 90ft) should immediately sound a bell to all the esoterically minded. 

    Look closely at the tree here.


    These black & white Masonic images appeared in print before the first proper dig got underway.

    Freemasonry had come to prominence in Nova Scotia in the 1700s (see Webb) plus, earlier in 1701, Capt Kidd had been executed for piracy (privateering) in America without ever revealing the location of the remaining half of his considerable  treasure. Consequently, tales of his buried riches continued to spark the imaginations of people along the entire eastern seaboard & up into the isles (it was not discovered until much later in history that Kidd (Kydd) had never sailed higher than Boston!)

    Everyone hoped to be the one to find the trove. However, the parallels between the money pit (whose flood tunnels ran to the water) & the tale of finding an inscribed stone (with a mysterious cipher etched on it)at 90ft, all echo the images & the Enochian tale, and other allegories, conveyed in Cryptic Masonry. Look at the stones here in this next Masonic image.


    The ever-shifting story of the inscribed stone is surely another clue to a tall-tale or a hoax by early opportunists.



    Imo, there is nothing there and never has been. It was and has been, however, a good way (perhaps by design) to introduce a huge amount of people over the centuries to the links between Oak Island - then called Gloucester Isle - and to Sir William Alexander (who, if you recall, as I’m sure I’ve written about it on here somewhere, wrote a poem that is almost identical to parts of a Shakespeare play) as well as to introduce Sir Francis Bacon plus Templar Knight, Rosicrucian/Masonic history and the mystery teachings which utilise allegory & symbols.

    By the way, the Oak Island story extends to the apparent find of multiple flood channels. They may well have physically been there for centuries, but it’s quite a coincidence that it produces images like this! 

    when we know the parallels to one of the main tree of life Kabbalistic images used by “Hermeticists” at that time.


    The Oak Island history also extends to stories about how “rubbish” had to be cleared out of the pit - which is interesting because see this …


    Many people would likely be surprised by the extent to which allegory, myth, and metaphor have been misinterpreted as literal over the centuries, shaping the beliefs and mindsets of millions across religions, cultures, and even academia to this day.

    Always do your own research and don’t blindly believe something just because someone (including me!) told you about it in a way that sounds authoritative, or you believe that they must know better than you.

    Critical thinking and piecing together what’s true and recognising what’s perhaps conflation or more a result of Chinese Whispers (called the Telephone Game in the US) over the centuries, is vital to every person’s journey, and to uncovering Truth and solving mysteries.”

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  7. “6 does appear to have mattered to Bacon on account of it having mattered to the Jews (most famously with the hexagon and its 6 pointed star of David). It's central to the numerology of the Holy Royal Arch which later travelled within the Freemasonic body until it lost importance after 1717 with the rise of French Freemasonry (Scottish Rite).”

    This paragraph above in your post  jumped out at me RC, as I researched both these points for my book. Rather than me challenging these directly, I asked ai to double check my understanding and respond. 


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  8. On 5/1/2024 at 6:04 AM, Marvin Haines said:

    God, I'd heard of the Bilateral Cypher before, but I never really delved into it, as it looked too complicated. Now I can see how simple it is!

    It appears that, when given five spaces - or "slots" - and instructed to fill them with only the letters A and B, there are exactly 22 distinct outcomes. I'll have to familiarize myself with this! 

    Hi Marvin, Did you know the Biliteral (not bilateral by the way, it was originally called Biliterarie) cipher is two of absolutely anything. The first one being designated A the second B, so (apologies if you already know this, but it may be of interest to readers who land here from outside) it’s not just numbers or letters drawn slightly differently or in darker and lighter font (ie a biformed alphabet). There is a famous picture of people (cryptographers) looking in two different directions which translates to Knowledge is Power and also from the Riverbank publications (available to view on the gorhambury.org site and 4in1.ws) comes this and many more examples of its use:


    You can use two different size of bricks, two different shapes of trumpets, people with eyes shut and open  - absolutely anything can be used to represent an a and b, including leaf shapes; hence the ‘’how to make anything signify anything’ phrase. It’s ingenious.

    I’m intrigued why you said 22 though? Can you elaborate? Was it a typo and you meant 24 or am I missing something? 

    Also what I don’t understand, (if someone could enlighten me?) is how it’s used as mentioned here in Cartier’s book? Or is this a completely separate Vigenere cipher where you move letters? IMG_2401.jpeg.e58d6b9644ab89d2b97a2626e3d646ac.jpeg

    Rob (I think?) posted this the other day too and I took a screenshot, 


    while this is an interesting idea this couldn’t be called a biliteral cipher, as it’s not following Bacon’s system.

     It’s always been my belief that where you see a TT it’s pointing us to look twice at that page and the To and Two within the To The Reader by BI at the front of the First Folio is the main ‘key’ instructing to look for the duality within the book. Another obvious hint to duality on those two pages is the two faces of Shakespeare ie the Droeshout mask picture “hiding” the second face.  That’s not a biliteral cipher in itself but a good way to say to readers, hey this is what we’ve used in what follows.

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  9. Glad you are questioning, Hen. Scrutiny is exactly what’s important. I think Bacon did use anagrams though, especially anagrammatical acrostics. I take your point but metaphors and allegories (parables) are also open to different interpretation and we know he used those as he tells us. Also they made good use of (I don’t know the correct name for this) but when you miss out letters so, for example H-R-D-M is Heredom. 

    There are so many ways we can look at everything. I just noticed if To the reader and TWO down the side points to TT then it’s another nod to 33 but also to the number 22, the 22nd word in is “to”. We could argue that’s pointing to page 222 (which from memory does have a cipher in it). 

    You’re right that things need to be definitive (without question as Ashmole said) but maybe like people love Suduko and other word games, they found it fun to litter the texts with wordplay.  Glad you're here looking at things with new eyes.

    Great new paper AP 👏

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  10. 2 hours ago, friendsofidb said:

    Btw, I know very little about Dr. Owen of Detroit,

    See the very recent topic on him. Here’s the first post - I don’t know if this links to the entire topic with multiple posts but you can access it via here. This is the problem when forums get filled with so much content, it’s hard to not miss things (and often things get repeated). He’s a quack but maybe a genius, eccentric one.  The information in this topic thread throws the credibility of him and Elizabeth Wells Gallup into serious question. Amongst other things he fully believed Bacon murdered Shakespeare 🙄


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  11. Thanks for the above, There's a large number of books available on LoC website and other things from the George Fabyan Collection but I guess you mean documents.  Stumbled across this by Friedman. Don't know if there's anything of any interest to anyone on here, but the table of contents looks interesting. I searched Cartier and there are 9 returns but I'm afraid I don't have time to look through them right now.  I did search Bacon. Only a few instances but Friedman seems to be advocating for him (?), if you search that.  I love digging around!


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  12. In the interests of getting to the truth (as opposed to being a disruptor!) here’s a slightly different take on Fabyan, Riverbank, the Smiths and Wells Gallup. It’s a longish article:  https://www.andreanolen.com/home/imperial-german-active-measures-and-the-founding-of-the-nsa


    It’s known that human nature is such that we can unconsciously build beliefs around people that support the narrative we have come to espouse. Anything which contradicts that can be dismissed as dis/misinformation written to put people ‘off the scent’  - it’s a common psychological reaction of “conspiracy theorists” as to have one’s view’s and beliefs challenged, questioned or brought into doubt, can strike right at the heart of a person’s identity. 

    I’m not suggesting this about anyone here, just continuing to advocate for looking at information like this critically, free from unconscious biases. As always the truth usually lies somewhere in the middle - and I hope we can arrive at it.  Mediocria Firma!

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  13. 2 hours ago, Hen. W. said:

    Kate: "Rather like Hen W on here is finding myriad links in distances using Google Maps. It defies logic and therefore is assumed to be design - but rarely actually is." Since the myriad of lines, angles and bearings (not distances) are all connected by a mysteriously consistent logic, linking them to the Stratford-inscription, I thought they were worth presenting on this forum. It could be my design, or it could be Bacon's.

    Of course you should share them Hen W - and really glad to have you here doing so. I think you missed my point or I didn't convey it clearly enough. 

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  14. That’s certainly intriguing, Yann. What an eye you have!

    There is something I want to say though, not to you specifically but to all. There has to be a reason why someone would encrypt anything. We could take many letters or documents from the era and find some incredible synchronicities if looking. It seems to be a factor of consciousness. Rather like Hen W on here is finding myriad links in distances using Google Maps. It defies logic and therefore is assumed to be design - but rarely actually is. I keep stressing how we have to be really careful about critical thinking/evaluation.

    By way of example, my friend, Scott Onstott did an intriguing documentary around 2012 (I think it was then) called Secrets in Plain Sight. He found some unbelievable links between distances of monuments and sacred locations across the globe. Truly jaw-dropping. 

    After Scott read my book we became friendly in 2021 and we got talking about this (ten years + on from his documentary) and we discussed how due to plate tectonics these values were precise when he was doing the measuring but would not have been so precise at the time of building these ancient monuments (he was using values to the degree, minute and second or fractions of an inch). Every conversation about it led to a discussion about the nature of reality and the role our consciousness plays. 

    Obviously we arrived at no conclusion but “synchronicity’ and quantum entanglement was explored by Jung and Pauli. One book that recently came to my attention when looking at the Golden Ratio is 137 by Arthur I Miller.

    There is no doubt that there is cipher and codes in books by Bacon - he tells us and Ashmole told us how they did it and Jonson in the poem you unearthed the other day, Trithemius, Agrippa, Dee, Kircher etc., etc but there’s also a lot of instances where what we find is just coincidence/synchronicity.  

    IMO, discovering the line between the two, or at least keeping it in mind, should be a top priority. I often go down rabbit holes, get excited find numerous “clues” that assure me I must be on to something, but then consciously stop and check the reality of it, ie is it just coincidence rather than a cipher, leading me to discard ideas I once was all for. I wonder if this was part of the Friedman’s journey too.

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  15. I have found a particularly good, comprehensive article on this site. https://robinhoodlegend.com/will-shake-2/
    Eric, you might particularly want to scroll through it as it has a large gallery of Shakespeare portraits, as well as the monument ones.

    Notice how George Vertue also doesn’t record the word plast. I wonder if it’s not actually a word for placed but placqued? 

    If so, are the words “envious death” a clue - the devious?!  Bit of a stretch but I am exploring every avenue since reading Ashmole 🕵🏻‍♀️



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  16. I lose track of what I’ve seen in AP's vast pantheon, so apols if this is already on the forum or in a paper/book by you AP. It’s from the Folger Library. It says it’s ’on the shelf’ and the link is highlighted. I don’t know if that means it is accessible to certain people? There is only one image. It is the precursor to Shakespeare Examined 


    Ah okay, just read your new paper and it’s mentioned a few times. IMG_2321.jpeg.7cd3d245b379cefb6b66aa1e4114669e.jpeg

    Also found this IMG_2325.jpeg.84352baa7affd1dacde30989e210719f.jpeg

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  17. 11 hours ago, friendsofidb said:


    What I want is, first, to confirm Gallup's work using modern technology, and second, find unpublished stuff she definitely had. (Just one example of many: it's generally known that Riverbank Acoustic Laboratories got it's name because Gallup found a description of an acoustic levitation device somewhere in encrypted Bacon's texts, which attracted Fabyan's interest.

    See this http://www.mythicdetroit.org/index.php?n=Main.DrOrvilleWardOwen

    (You can also click through to some of the links in that article. Some are no longer working,  but not all).

    It’s my own belief, perhaps not shared by others, that Owen and Gallup were monumentally deluded, eccentrics. That doesn’t mean though that they couldn’t have unearthed some important pointers in the field of Cryptography or clues left by Bacon et al. I’d guess that Fabyan and the Friedman’s soon realised the extent of the delusions which is why the Friedman’s backtracked, but again it doesn’t mean they found nothing or didn’t operate a cover up.  Research like this is the only way to get to the truth.

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  18. Wow! That’s (DECrypt) an amazing project. Hearing about two (in two days) is exciting.  

    I’ve just been scrolling through the thousands of records/documents - so many from Cassel. So many from Bacon’s lifetime.What an amazing project. I missed my vocation. I’d have loved to be a cryptanalyst!

    They have an in-depth article here with lots of book references if you scroll to the bottom. Does anyone have access to Google Scholar to access the books? https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1080/01611194.2020.1716410

    They must have worked on “Shakespeare” related docs and inscriptions too.  I wonder if they’d tell us if asked,  and if they did find (or have found) something of interest that contradicts the Friedman studies,  if the Stratfordians would allow it to publicly surface? 

    The problem here, as always, is context. They could decipher something that still means nothing to them or the message could be very clear but they are not able to see its wider implications. They’d send it off to some uni professors who specialise in the history of the Renaissance era for context but that person’s knowledge may not be complete and they could miss something that if AP saw (or one of us) we’d be able to instantly link it to a bigger picture. They need to make all the decryptions public in case they are double layered or beyond the specialisations of the experts they hand them on to. Hope they read this! 

    Re your Biliteral  conversation further up Rob, what do you mean by the number string? How is that used. Here’s a screenshot of what I mean for ease IMG_2290.jpeg.20b563247afebfeae0aca7c11fab9cd0.jpeg

    I'm well versed in how to use it for two typefaces or two of absolutely anything but not number. Thanks for any explanation.

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  19. This is so simple that it surely can’t be possible, and other people must have seen it, but did they make the later one have the word with in split in two because that stops Shakspeare being word number 33 cipher for Bacon? 

    Using Dugdale’s, which looks more like within is one word, it is word number 33

    Why did the printers use a different font for the name too? Remember Dugdale was definitely part of the Rosicrucian/Masonic circle.

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