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  1. William Stone Booth in Subtle Shining Secrecies talks about the gallows device on 2 pages, 31 and 67. I don't always follows the ciphers discussions, since I don't understand them well (so forgive me if I'm repeating something you all already know), but I had found Booth's book persuasive when I got it from the library and now have a copy of it. Here's what he says on p. 31. "The gallows, or to give it a French name the potence, is often used by Shake-speare, and, as will be seen, sometimes in connection with some use of the verb to hang. The famous hang-hog story here lends its point, and is told on page 67. The gallows acrostic device is so called because of its shape. Examples of the gallows are: That T S hang H H A o A A Turn g T That End quote. He goes on to give a second example. On p. 67 the device is in beginning to The Tempest. Here's the first paragraph: "Device No. 10 exposes a subtle shining secrecy writ in the margent of The Tempest, at the foot of the first column and on the word unnecessarily carried over to the second column.The form of the first part of the device is in an inverted gallows, and it expresses the words "hang-hog," a nod to the observant. It will be noted that by misplacing the stage directions after, instead of before, the words "A Plague," and by unnecessarily carrying over the word "upon" to the next column, the name of Bacon has been exposed on the typographical corners of the first column." Then he proceeds to tell the story of Sir Nicholas Bacon and Hogge. He says, "The wit in the remark not only depends on the need for "smoking" the Hogge, but also on the Hog-latin of the pun in suspendere meaning to hang, which when cut into its sound components gives sus and pendere; Sus, a pig, and Pendere, to hang. Hence Mistress Quickly's assurance that "Hang-Hog is Latten (hog-latin) for Bacon, I warrant you." It is hardly necessary to point out the double entente of the text on which the gallows is to be seen. The Boatswaine is intended in time to become well hanged, or in other words, to become good Bacon, as he does actually by the completion of the typographiccal device, which I have rubricated for the reader's guidance." (etc.) I had thought maybe this book would have come into the public domain by now, but maybe not. My copy was published in 1925. He says in his intro. that Subtle Shining Secrecies contains his best examples. He spent fourteen years on the book. I think there's a lot of good material in it. I recommend it!
  2. Presumably the Prince calls him Woolsacke because Falstaff is fat, like a cushion. I like Francis's constant "Anon, anon, I come anon." Could suggest anonymous. The only use of "woolsack" in Shakespeare and it's in that scene.
  3. James Shapiro in Contested Will does at least list in his bibliographical essay resources on alternative candidates. For Bacon, he lists the first edition of Brian McClinton's book, The Shakespeare Conspiracies (2007, the 2d being published by Shanway Press in Belfast, 2008) and Francis Bacon's New Advancement of Learning, SirBacon.org (p. 282). Baconiana gets three page listings in his book's index. He gives about equal space in his book to Bacon as he does to Oxford. In these ways, his book is superior to that of a certain journalist. Yes, he's a Stratfordian, and he leaves out important aspects of the case, as Larson noted, and writers such as Constance Pott in the past and Peter Dawkins today. Shapiro admits that he found George Greenwood's 1908 The Shakespeare Problem Restated useful (Shapiro, p. 282), but I don't think he had read Greenwood's three Baconian essays (including the Conclusion) in the Smithson volume he edited which Eric Roberts pointed out to us here in the forum. In those essays, Greenwood wrote that he found the case for Bacon entirely plausible. He just didn't think it was proven. I thought Shapiro's treatment of Delia was more sympathetic than we sometimes see. Shapiro in Contested Will may have misled others into thinking the Baconian movement was dead (see p. 149) or of historical interest only--if they did not also read his p. 139: "The case for Francis Bacon's authorship of the plays continues to find new supporters to this day, though they are fewer in number, less prominent, and less vocal" (p. 139). Fewer than what? Baconians of the past? Oxfordians? Okay, both were true thirteen years ago; but we are still here, and growing, with this wonderful forum in which to discuss "all things Bacon."
  4. Thank you, Light-of-Truth! It was a detail that had never registered with me before. I was going to look up Virginia Fellows' book to order it, and I came across this, "Bacon and Shakespeare Cyphers" by Virginia Fellows, here at SirBacon: https://sirbacon.org/links/fellows.html. Worth reading!
  5. Barry Evans has three pieces on Shakespeare authorship. I left a comment at part 3. "Doubting Shakespeare, Part 3: Whodunnit?" North Coast Journal, May 9, 2024. https://www.northcoastjournal.com/life-outdoors/doubting-shakespeare-part-3-whodunnit-29689357. Here's part 1 https://www.northcoastjournal.com/life-outdoors/doubting-shakespeare-part-1-stratfordians-vs-anti-stratfordians-29560434 . Part 2 https://www.northcoastjournal.com/life-outdoors/doubting-shakespeare-part-2-problems-29624904
  6. Thanks, Light-of-Truth. After Brian McClinton passed away in 2022, I put a short review up on Amazon, too. Amazon does not allow reviews put up there to be reposted anywhere else, according to its stated rules, so I'll just give the link. https://www.amazon.com/Shakespeare-Conspiracies-Untangling-400-year-Deceit/product-reviews/1903497361
  7. Thank you, Eric. That was a pleasant, informative read. According to the Gray's Inn website, Bacon was one of the first to become a Bencher (a position of highest honor and leadership) at Gray's Inn (just four years after he was admitted to the bar), without having first been a Reader. He gave his first Reading in 1588 and his second in 1600. (from the Grays Inn website, "history, members, biographies, Francis Bacon," "history timeline, Francis Bacon" and "history, past members, benchers," cited in my book, Francis Bacon's Hidden Hand, p. 109). https://www.graysinn.org.uk/the-inn/history/ The Cravath article says "The Readings were lectures delivered by the members of the Society upon their election to the position of Bencher, the highest honor in the Society (Cravath article, 19-21, at 20). I had not realized there was quite so much revelry and masqueing going on as is reported here. I had heard of the famous 1594 "Christmas revels," of course; but according to this article, the revelry began "as early as All Hallow's day" for the 1594 revels reported in the Gesta Grayorum. It is notable that Francis Bacon was acknowledged "in his time [as] the chief spirit in all revels and masques" (Cravath article, p. 20. Cravath is an old, prestigious New York City law firm. ttps://www.cravath.com/our-story/history/index.html
  8. Yes, our Francis Bacon Society is a Phoenix, is it not? Rising strong once again! Standing on the shoulders of worthy, accomplished, individuals who had become convinced of the truth.
  9. I read this as it was Bacon's philosophy and teachings that might well have been published under his (Bacon's) name or another's. Although it could have been written more clearly so we knew who "his" was meant to refer to.
  10. I have been to the FBS's new online bookstore. It looks very nice! The Francis Bacon Society should be rightly proud of its recent accomplishments! I'm sure we're all proud of them. One major accomplishment is the FBS's recent reprinting of late British barrister N. B. Cockburn's authoritative The Bacon Shakespeare Question: The Baconian Theory Made Sane (for which I wrote the foreword). This book has been out of print for some time. If you have not read it, you should! Cockburn goes out of his way to be objective in presenting the cases for Bacon (part 1), alternative candidates (part 2), and the "Stratford man" (part 3). In his introduction, he states that he has two main goals, "to cut a swathe through all the nonsense, to get at the points that matter both for and against the Baconian hypothesis, and to state them fairly and accurately," and "to cover, as far as posible, the whole field of the Bacon-Shake-Speare controversy" (Cockburn, pp. 6 and 7). Bacon-Shakespeare research has progressed since Cockburn first published his book in 1998. May it continue to progress! Still, what he has done is present a valid case that cannot easily be dismissed. Yes, his personal view was that there were no codes or ciphers in the Shakespeare works. Others disagree with him on this point. Since it can be a divisive point, it is significant that he found so much other evidence, 740 pages worth, without relying on codes and ciphers evidence. He covers evidence familiar to us (that Bacon was a concealed poet, had a strong interest in the theatre, the Northumberland Manuscript, the Promus, Manes Verulamiani, etc.) and unfamiliar (such as the "Charles Best" poems). The book has 740 pages, with 42 chapters and 5 appendices. And so, I hope you will order a copy. It will take you awhile to read and absorb all the information. In my opinion, it will be money well spent.
  11. So, is it the interpretation of the phrase "built a library" that is at issue? Does it depend upon whether one interprets the phrase literally or figuratively? I have been reading it figuratively, I suppose, which would allow one to "build a library" of books, even if it just meant accumulating books and housing them in an already-existing chambers (which was pretty generous of him). I think, though, you may be pointing out that you don't believe Sir Nicholas built an actual building for the housing of books at Gray's Inn. Is this what I have not been understanding? Weren't you just at Gray's Inn? So you would know whether or not there was an actual building erected or not.
  12. Puttenham invented the word anagram, and there's a lot of evidence pointing to Bacon's being the real author of "The Art of Poesie."
  13. Yes, and (as you know), that was followed by Oliver Kamm's long May 2 piece, "The Paranoid Style in Shakespeare Denlalism, Quillette, https://quillette.com/2024/05/02/the-paranoid-style-in-shakespeare-denialism-winkler-edward-de-vere/. In response, Diana Price's posted the following at her own website which Shakespeare Oxford Fellowship reposts. https://shakespeareoxfordfellowship.org/diana-price-responds-to-oliver-kamms-criticism-in-quillette/. (Price claimed to be neutral on authorship candidates in her book, "Shakespeare's Unorthodox Biography," although she said her father was an Oxfordian.) To comment at Quillette, you have to subscribe. "The spirit of liberty is that which is not too sure it is right." --American judge Learned Hand, "The Spirit of Liberty Speech," 1944.
  14. "in the chambers of Sir Nicholas Bacon": Sir Nicholas had chambers at Gray's Inn, as a member--just as Bacon did later. Perhaps the best people to ask on this would be the people at Gray's Inn. It was at Gray's Inn that they would have done the mooting and stored the treasure chest.
  15. It is of great interest, Eric. However, I would not be so quick to decide that Sir Nicholas did not build a library at Gray's Inn, unless you are sure. Maybe he built it afterwards? I have come across that statement recently as well, that he built a library at Gray's Inn. If I can remember where, I will let you know. Elizabeth McCutcheon's book can be read on Internet Archive. https://archive.org/details/sirnicholasbacon0000baco/page/n1/mode/2up
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