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Peter Dawkins nSdoproste4g3035ac1lmuc14fh5cy102m39g2i9a2 7tc2g41tJf34ulc4m · Sunday 24 September 2023 - 'The Silver Key to the Rosicrucian Mysteries & Labour of Love' - Talk given on Zoom by Peter Dawkins about the Shakespeare First Folio, twin to the 'De Dignitate et Augmentis Scientiarum', which constitute the hierophantic golden and silver keys to the Rosicrucian Mysteries and were deliberately published in 1623, the year of a Great Conjunction of Saturn and Jupiter, so as to act out the “As above, so below” Hermetic teachings. += https://www.fbrt.org.uk/.../the-rosicrucian-mysteries.../

FRANCIS BACON SECRET REPUBLICAN AND FATHER OF THE MODERN DEMOCRATIC WORLD Both Bacon and Shakespeare (obviously treated separately by orthodox scholars) have very largely been presented as conservative political thinkers whereas more recently several modern scholars have finally begun to partly recognize the republican themes running through both the canons, which completely revolutionizes and transforms our understanding of the first philosopher-poet of the modern world. See A. Phoenix, 'Bacon-Shakespeare Secret Republican Father of the Modern World', pp. 1-14.

I totally get that. I would want to be who I am too and not have that be seen as being an imbecile just trolling like so many empty vessels on the internet. I could, If I was asked to, steel-man you case for you. I prefer to not to. You should be able to do that for yourself. I also realize that to ask someone with a well established belief to reason it away is a very poor way to achieve the "deprogramming" of a belief in the world. I think of myself as a very, very weak deprogrammer. All I have to offer is grit, resistance or reasonable objections. I've not been able to get anyone close to me to shake off their strange beliefs no matter how hard I have tried (my family is full of them). My wife is obsessed with seeing meaning in things when they happen to me or other people. It drives me crazy. Her romantic belief that "we were meant to be" is something I constantly have had to push back against. If "we are" it is because the will to make it work is present, the alignment of the stars be damned. It could vanish tomorrow. There's a very deep rooted desire for humans to want to feel like they are in-tune what nature wants as the outcome. Nature couldn't care less. It doesn't feel like we owe it something either. Expressions of gratefulness towards nature are reflections of the fact we desire to be thanked for what we do that is perceived as good coming from our individual existence. If there isn't any of that we start to wonder about the point of "I". That finds an expression in the pursuit of valued "legacy". One wants to feel like he has made a contribution to the story of mankind. Having children isn't quite enough, apparently. In the case of the men who I term the "Christian empiricists" they also appear to have been obsessed with creating a lasting cultural inheritance. That is what great works try to do. They can be orchestrated. The goodness of the work may be mainly found in the fact that it binds and that it gives a sense of belonging. When it was dangerous to have certain scientific views it was beneficial for there to be identifiable symbols for those who wanted to still be Christians and who were willing to alter the beliefs to be in line with the observations. The atheists would not have been so interested in that. How Christian was Bacon? Was he Christian enough to please Rawley and the other members of the Great Council (Magnum Concilium)? Is there something in Bacon's legacy that had to be whitewashed to preserve the interests of the religious establishment? Why is it that so many vocal Baconians are of a religious bent? I have seen very few who are purely scientific or atheistic. There's a love for Bacon that seems to come out of an already existing religious community with deep ties to monarchy. I can't help but feel that Bacon is a symbol for them, and that bringing in Shakespeare solidifies the faction. In my heart of hearts I have always read Shakespeare thinking he was an impish scoundrel and an atheist. If Shakespeare is Bacon then that saves the works from being the product of a heathen. That's just a feeling, and I give not real weight to feelings,

That would would mean there's nothing special to have it be anywhere you looked. It could be worse. Ed DeVere could be there in every one too. Examining that possibility can explain away some apophenia. Keep in mind that if you ever came across a page 33 that had no B A CON in it you'd not think that was abnormal, and you'd probably not think of signaling out that the non occurrence had any meaning. When we look to confirm things we find things. When Peter Amundsen went looking for things associated with 53 he had an eye out for identifying certain things related to triangles, Rosy, Cross, RC and G. If my memory serves me well, I think he even found a B A CON occurrence. CON word occurrences in full pages may be quite common, so we do not instinctively know if one on a page numbered 53 is "special". What we do know of the human mind is that it is capable of finding patterns whether they were intended to be there or not. Determining if they were placed there or not is and what they mean is actually the hard part. Observing something is not doing any heavy lifting. If Bacon was so oblivious to the nature of things appearing randomly he could, presumably, have arranged for B A CON to appear somewhere. To his horror it may not be statistically significant. That means no clear signaling. One would have to assume that the signaling, if it existed, was more robust and that it also offered some decipherable aspect. Have you considered that there may be in these instances a very real cipher in the text there? It would be one where there would be no possibility of misinterpretation or subjectivity. By Bacon's own thinking, expressed in his own writing, the finding of the cipher is supposed to be difficult and the deciphering of it is supposed to be possible.

Cornelii Giselberti Plempii Amsterodamum monogrammon https://archive.org/details/corneliigiselber00plem/page/122/mode/2up So nice to look at Plempii's Emblems again. Surreal in the best sense. Here is one for the Phoenixes. A throne-commode? Printers at work: The self and the other... Lord Verulam? The real author will ascend and the mask will fall.

Thanks Yann. The mis-numbering of emblem 33 must be deliberate, surely. And indeed it resembles Nicholas Stone's sculpture, except his head is resting on his right arm in the emblem. Well spotted.

Some of us had a mention of the number 137 in our emails today. Yann, what do you get from page 137 and Emblem 14? https://archive.org/details/corneliigiselber00plem/page/136/mode/2up?ref=ol&view=theater Google translation gives me this for the first sentence: Thus it is customary for elders to give their own masks: And those who see others have by which they are seen EDIT: A snippet In the FBS email this morning for members: "Known as ‘The Fine Structure Constant,’ 137 occupies a mysterious position in the knowledge of mathematics." EDIT 2: https://science.howstuffworks.com/dictionary/physics-terms/why-is-137-most-magical-number.htm

A phrase I have heard many times, "This ain't my first rodeo." I can take it, and I can dish it out, because I am very comfortable on who I am. I have learned to become the best of what I can be in my own mind. I've been very grouchy lately, yet I do not Hate even when I am cantankerous screaming at the clouds. 😉 Peace and Love all the way.

Florida is totally crazy right now. What is happening these past couple years can not last long as we are still the land of the late Jimmy Buffet, Key West, Disney World, and a barefoot paradise of pleasure. My wife and I are very fortunate to live in an "Island of Sanity" which to the rest of Florida might seem like an insane place to be. LOL But I get what you say CJ, Bacon's entire New Atlantis experiment could be coming to a quick, violent, and tragic end. It is more possible than I want to think about. Today, the first day of Fall, even though still too warm for my comfort the sky is crystal clear blue with puffy white clouds like a July summer day in the High Country of Colorado. It is a beautiful day and I am totally exhausted and beat down after one of the most horrible summers I have ever lived on many fronts. Everyone is still welcome in Florida, but it is important to know which cities, towns, neighborhoods, and Islands of Sanity are filled with the people you relate to. Tampa Bay is known for being inclusive.

I had that thought, but haven't done the math yet. What if all 154 Sonnets had a "B...a...con" in them? 🙂

Hi Eric, I already mentionned it in another topic but I wonder if the sculpture could be linked to the 33rd Emblem on page 157 of MONOGRAMMON published in 1616 ... https://archive.org/details/corneliigiselber00plem/page/156/mode/2up?ref=ol&view=theater By the way, the misnumbered XXXXIII (instead of XXXIII) could be a clue. Here is Emblem XLIII on page 167 ... "Interiore hominum similes sunt corpore porci : Sape bono natis sanguine porcus ines." seems to mean : "Inwardly, men are like the body of a swine: indeed, the blood of a good born swine is in it." Edit : Being in the topic of Acrostic and Anagram, I remind you that MONOGRAMMON is the Book published the year of Shakespeare's death in wich is found the following first Emblem ... ... hiding F. BACON. In my view, the choice of pose for the Sculpture of Francis Bacon, that is very similar to the pose of the man in Emblem 33, could be a way to link the death of Francis Bacon with the death of Shakespeare.

FRANCIS BACON FOUNDING FATHER OF THE MODERN SPECULATIVE FREEMASONRY BROTHERHOOD See A. Phoenix, The 1623 Shakespeare First Folio: A Baconian-Rosicrucian-Freemasonic Illusion (2023), pp. 403; 142 facsimiles; 892 references) Chapter XI 'The 1723 and 1738 editions of the Freemasonic Book of Constitutions sanctioned by the Grand Lodge of England cryptically reveal that Francis Bacon was the Secret Founding Father of the Rosicrucian-Freemasonry Brotherhood and Secret author of the Shakespeare First Folio', pp. 325-333. https://www.academia.edu/103102421/The_1623_Shakespeare_First_Folio_A_Baconian_Rosicrucian_Freemasonic_Illusion

It can be dangerous. My neighbors are snowbirds. They have a place in Florida. However, they are going to be selling now, because of they have sensed that they are now being treated like "the other" in these Trumpian times. Relationships there have taken a hit. "Canadian" has taken on a meaning of "meddling bleeding heart Liberal" or "socialist" to the locals, is what I take from their perceptions. People get tagged as being "our kind" or not. What we do with what we know of another person's thinking has its consequences. Today we tend to know more than ever what people think. I wish we could all be nice to each other, but I also know that it is not that easy when power is in the balance. There are held religious views that want their hands on power, and there is money which is synonymous to power. In the attainment of power there is a desire to control the institutions and the state of "knowledge". "Cancelling" is just a modern way of expressing the fact that views can and will be controlled where they can be. I'm not a big proponent of the Freedom to say what one wants when some ar clearly just empty vessels doing political faction building, but that is what we have. It does allow us to know what we are up against. As long as we both know where we are coming from I don't see how we can be of disservice to each other. It takes grit to polish a stone. Trying to "outknow" the other may in fact force us to be better, more reasonable, people if we take the task on seriously. In many ways I feel alien in even my family. But their are always ties that bind if we look for those. You and I are alike in that we seem to be able to moderate our impulses and not come to blows even if we are confident in what direction we are coming at this from. We are also older and cantankerous in a way that old men who scream at clouds are. By all means avoid war. These times always pass.

Those 70 lines account for how many Sonnets? 70 out of 154 would be 45% and change. We know some Sonnets have more than one occasion of a "con" word. I feel I am close in my estimate, but we'll see. Mind you, CON need not just come from a word with that prefix...I could be low. The count is not a meaning. You cannot decode a count. You can only observe it. We've, together, observed counts that exist in the KJV Psalms 110, 111 and 117. They also appear to be Freemasonic in inspiration. You are relying heavily on the suggestion of the decodability of gematria again. How many possible meanings do you want me to give you for "con" or 33. A con is a confidence trick isn't it? Are we all being conned by observable manufactured coincidences? Are we forced to go down one avenue of meaning with 33? Do you want me to tell you that 33 has an obvious Masonic meaning? I don't think I have to say that. If I do you may counter that this is proof that Francis Bacon invented speculative Freemasonry. Freemasonry doesn't know that. I fear it is always going to be an interpretation that is consistent with what you wish to be found. Let's just focus on he fact that the "con"s appear often enough for them to not mean anything by their presence in any given Sonnet. If we cannot get to Anthony Bacon, DeVere or Francis then you have a count of 33 to explain which need not involve them. What forces 33 to be related to gematria, as opposed to just being that 33 of Freemasonry fame (which we would then have forever argue about the origin of). Is it 3x3=9, is it 3^3=27, is it 99/3 or is it a Triple Tau suggestion? It is hermetic or alchemic in meaning? Or are we wildly off and is this the idea of 33 Egyptian dynasties of which he 18th is the Key? What is fueling the narratives? What you do is heavy in observation and that is good. Make sure your syllogisms that seek to apply meaning are good too. It would be terrible if we observed something that was meant to be seen and ended up believing and convincing others with the wrong thing from it. All I wish to add is that there were men playing the Free and Accepted Masonry cosplay game at this time. As far as I know there's no one who has a list of the earliest membership of these Acception groups. They were small in number and secretive. They may have been patrons and they may have exercised some influence with the goal of promoting a religious view of life and death wirth a decidedly Protestant and scientific flavor.

364 and one day of atonement before you start on the mirrored "chiral" other half of your "Pauline" Christian journey into the afterlife symbolized by the other half of the perfect square. The year is just what the year is. Trying to produce meaning from numbers leads us to seek parallels with other things which we may in fact invent by creating a narrative based in the similarity. There may be many works that have been made to have 365 pages (we spoke of one hermetic book here before) in length to try and hop on to the suggestion. "What" is inspiring "what" is where we might find the answer to the "why" we are seeing some things. We can feel like we have discovered a rationale for a certain type of narrative. It's not out of place with the Sonnets. There's other number games that may be used to equate those to religious ideas in vogue with the Christian empiricists of the early 17th century. So, who wrote the Sonnets? Who's being bothered to frame it in some empiric number based scheme if that was intended? It is not a code or a cipher. We cannot decipher a meaning from shape. We can only observe it and wonder if it all just happens to be coincidental to the fact that 364 and 154 have a common divisor which is also the number of lines in each Sonnet. The rest could just be your, or my, imaginative story telling. Someone else could waltz in and find a way to impose 14 onto DeVere and hijacking the whole elegant story.

Hi Eric, In the modern Arden Bible edition of Cymbeline (2017) edited by Professor Valerie Wayne the word 'Iarman' is changed to 'German' and 'Iachimo' or 'Giacomo' is an Italian name for which its editor provides some instructive commentary. I have sent the following interesting pages over for your perusal.

Hi A Phoenix As far as I can tell "lachimo" and "larman' are neither in my dictionary nor explained online.

In poker I think they call that a "royal flush".

Supercilious, belittling, sarcastic, unnecessary. Again, no facts, just bombast!

Bacon is Shakespeare Francis Bacon-Shakespeare was undoubtedly the greatest poet and dramatist of his age, of all time, who possessed a profound grasp of ciphers, codes, rebuses, emblems, symbolic head and tailpieces, and all other cryptic devices, and undoubtedly the greatest authorial anagrammatist, evidence of which is repeatedly and continually found throughout the First Folio revealing and confirming that Bacon is Shakespeare. PAPER: https://www.academia.edu/106420304/The_Hidden_Baconian_Acrostics_and_Anagrams_in_the_Shakespeare_First_Folio VIDEO: https://youtu.be/wTR_gqloCWs 1 MINUTE TRAILER: https://youtu.be/C_1ffdeMvy8

TIMON OF ATHENS The date when Timon of Athens whose eponymous character is a disguised dramatic portrait of Bacon was written and revised is uncertain. Some aspects of the play reflect circumstances and themes beyond Bacon’s fall in 1621. The play was first entered into the Stationers’ Register in 1623 and printed for the first time in the First Folio with the anagram F BACON: For each true word, a blister, and each false Be as Cantherizing to the root of o’th’ Tongue, Consuming it with speaking. I Worthy Timon. Tim. Of none but such as you, And you of Timon. F BACON Shakespeares Comedies Histories, & Tragedies. Published according to the True Originall Copies (London: printed by Isaac Jaggard, and Ed. Blount, 1623), Tragedies, p. 96. For more Baconian-Shakespearean acrostics, anagrams and secret signatures see both Yann Le Merlus, ‘Allisnum2er’ and Rob Fowler, ‘Light of Truth’ in ‘Baconian Acrostics, Anagrams, Monograms, & Secret Signatures in the Shakespeare Poems & Plays’, ‘Special Bacon-Shakespeare Title Pages & Emblems’, ‘The Baconian-Rosicrucian AA Headpieces in Editions of Shakespeare Poems, Quartos & Folios’, on B’Hive https://sirbacon.org/bacon-forum/index.php?/topic/93-the-baconian-rosicrucian-aa-headpieces-in-editions-of-shakespeare-poems-quartos-folios/page/9/#comment-7095 and for a collection of his ground-breaking videos see also Yann Le Merlus, ‘Allisnum2er’, at https://sirbacon.org/all-is-num2er/ PAPER: https://www.academia.edu/106420304/The_Hidden_Baconian_Acrostics_and_Anagrams_in_the_Shakespeare_First_Folio VIDEO: https://youtu.be/wTR_gqloCWs 1 MINUTE TRAILER: https://youtu.be/C_1ffdeMvy8

CYMBELINE In Cymbeline, King of Britain first printed in the 1623 First Folio placed at the last of the tragedies the final drama in the volume Bacon conceals and reveals himself several times in one line in Act 2 Scene 5 where Posthumus refers to the false boast of Giacomo: This yellow Iachimo in an houre, was’t not? Or lesse; at first? Perchance he spoke not, but Like a full Acorn’d Boare, a Iarman on, Cry’de oh, and mounted; found no opposition The above is a very condensed and involved allusion to its author, Bacon. The name Bacon is of Germanic (‘Iarman’) origin, a boar is a wild pig from which bacon is derived, and for good measure ‘acorn’ phonetically sounds like Bacon, and with the initial letter from the next word ‘boar’ it yields the anagram, BACON, and when we add the letter ‘f’ from the word ‘full’, the anagram F BACON. Shakespeares Comedies Histories, & Tragedies. Published according to the True Originall Copies (London: printed by Isaac Jaggard, and Edward Blount, 1623), pp. 389-90 PAPER: https://www.academia.edu/106420304/The_Hidden_Baconian_Acrostics_and_Anagrams_in_the_Shakespeare_First_Folio VIDEO: https://youtu.be/wTR_gqloCWs 1 MINUTE TRAILER: https://youtu.be/C_1ffdeMvy8

THE WINTER’S TALE The late play The Winter’s Tale (written c. 1609-10) which explored the political process of the union of England and Scotland reflected in a series of speeches and treatises written by Bacon in the years leading up to its composition, was first printed in the 1623 Shakespeare First Folio with the following BACO acrostic and anagram of BACON: By my regard, but kill’d none so. Camillo, As you are certainely a Gentleman, thereto Clerke-like experience’d, which no lesse adornes Our Gentry, than our parents Noble Names, In whose successe we are gentle: BACO and BACON Shakespeares Comedies Histories, & Tragedies. Published according to the True Originall Copies (London: printed by Isaac Jaggard, and Edward Blount, 1623), p. 281 PAPER: https://www.academia.edu/106420304/The_Hidden_Baconian_Acrostics_and_Anagrams_in_the_Shakespeare_First_Folio VIDEO: https://youtu.be/wTR_gqloCWs 1 MINUTE TRAILER: https://youtu.be/C_1ffdeMvy8

Eric, the highlight of my day which has had a few long over due nice moments is enjoying you speaking up. 🙂 Hoping the coming equinox brings good vibes to us all. In a way I feel it, even if only a breezy day and cooler temperatures here on the Gulf Coast of Florida. 🙂

I already know that nobody would notice these Bacon signature lines are on Christmas Day. https://www.light-of-truth.com/pyramid-GMT.php#Day359